Filmore

Aleatha said:
I think I'll make my first comment on this guy, because I was the one he was trying to screw over.

A little back story is I've been sponsering this new dynamis shell and it's small so we haven't been making what I've been paying for. It's a great group of people and fully support it without any complaints. I will always support the leadership of this shell and endorse it! Join our shell it's fun!

Now to the main issue at hand. We start dynamis and I can't stay for the whole run and so I change to Whm to main heal instead of main tanking. Filmore shows up in the middle of dynamis and automatically starts to complain about how he can't lot coins. This is the first I've seen of him in dynamis at all. Then he starts to harrass me with tells about me selling coins and what not. I tell him politely "No, I'm not selling coins I'm upgrading a relic." He then spams me with tells about how he should be able to buy 99 relic coins for 10k a piece. Considering this is sandy relic coins, I'd be getting ripped off and still haven't made what I've lost in the past runs. Of course, I try to resolve the issue in tells, but I can't because he keeps going. Trying to main heal an alliance and dealing with this guy was enough; so I bring it to the leadership's attention for them to handle. Unfortunetly, I had to leave in the middle of the agrument to head to work and find out what happens during dynamis while I'm at work. I'm not mad, but disappointed that someone would do that.

Today, I logged on to try to talk to him to understand why he did what he did. Filmore, then tells me that I acted unfairly and that his LS tells him that I'm very selfish for doing what I did. I just laugh at him and wanted to challenge him to Ballista. Of course, he refuses and says he's camping HNM with Vanquished. He then go on about how he's part of Vanquished and that he's so awesome and I cannot attain his greatness. Of course, I know people in Vanquished because they're our competition. I just laughed it off...only thing I can do at this point. Hopefully, this guy doing screw over anyone else.
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Players that are great don't jack dynamis runs and lot items like whiny bitches. LOL
 
He has never been part of Vanquished, he knows a member of our shell and thats about as far as it goes. He has never attended a Vanquished camp or event.

On a side note, one part of the story I'm not understanding is how you're not making back the money sponsoring Dynamis. Dynamis wields EASILY a minimum 200 coin count in cities, and that's on a HORRID day. For a Sandy or a Windy all you need is a 50 coin count to break even, are you saying you're not getting 50 coin count a Dynamis? Or is it because you're been loosing money doing CoP/Xarc?
 
Well this dude got a pearl for my LS about maybe 6 months ago, had all this big talk about how he wanted to do this and that and advance in the game and how he learned how to be such a "awesome player" from his friends in Abso..... lol well after a week of him being in the shell... helen keller could even see that this guy was a lost cause. He never participated in anything unless there was a chance of him getting something. Hell he didnt even know what farming in a dyna zone was lol. He was mia for about 6 months, popped in the shell yesterday and we kicked him due to this post. 3 words describe him best "What A Newb"
 
Somebody could have told me everyone went to the same shell Dav lol. I'll have to talk to Kyas once I'll be able to log back xD. I must admit that guy looks like your typical know it all sob. And he got that e-thug attitude too yo. Gonna blacklist him the second I log in next week. Thanks for the fair warning.

Also I don't what is more pathetic Dav. That guy or your screen resolution! :p
 
I kinda aggree with the guy about refusing to farm someone's relic. how can people even dare ask others to spend 3 hours 2 time a week to farm someone's relic, come on. A fair linkshell should take right enough coins to pay for the run and free lot the rest. And don't give me that bs argument about not selling back the coins. Wether its O bronzepieces, tutkus, or gil, its acurrency used to acquire an item. and you still have the possiblility to exchange it for gil. If the coins go to a LS bank or something to pay for other events, it's ok I guess.

I joined a LS about 6 month ago, that seemed rather new and had sponsors. They did Bastok. A sponsor ( who was fucking gimp, don't remember who it is) loted all the coins and the 4 100c that droped. He made 5 millions profit that night, when like 10 other people ended up wasting 3hours, didnt get anythign not even AF2. The guy was also yelling and using <call> at 3 min left so people pass his shit. Needless to say a few weeks later nobody were even showing up.

If someone wants a relic, fucking farm it on your own, don't ask others to farm it for you. There is no reason one person should exit the dynamis run with multi milion profits when the majority of members will exit with exp, time and gil loss. And don't pretend its hard to farm the 500k needed to pay for entry, cause it's not. Even a dreamland dynamis is break even nowadays, if your LS is half decent.
 
mdkuser said:
If someone wants a relic, fucking farm it on your own, don't ask others to farm it for you. There is no reason one person should exit the dynamis run with multi milion profits when the majority of members will exit with exp, time and gil loss. And don't pretend its hard to farm the 500k needed to pay for entry, cause it's not. Even a dreamland dynamis is break even nowadays, if your LS is half decent.
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I agree with MDK 100%. I won't ever join another "sponsor" LS because of this. Even if the sponsor doesn't lot any 100c, they still make well beyond double the entrance fee in cities, even in Dreamlands and Northlands with a good group.

I've read there's an LS who lots coins to fund the entrance fee and then they split the rest for monthly or bi weekly pay out.

Now, don't even dare giving me the "Dynamis isn't for making money" bullshit spiel. In sponsor linkshells it's for making money for one or two upgraders. Fine and dandy but I won't be your sheep, sad that many others will follow the leader.

I have no problem with a Dynamis only LS where the player with an upgraded relic sticks around and continues to help the linkshell, it makes me happy to see Celvantes still making runs and sacrificing progressing in end game to stay with lolDynamis. That's a true LS funded relic right there, helping the group that helped him.

HNM groups adding incentive by giving points for attending is another way to lure members to farm for them. For a very productive linkshell with the sponsor being an active leader, I have no problems with that at all, I'll be rewarded with a better chance at HNM drops.
When the sponsor finishes upgrading and then leaves the HNM group, that just screams ungratefulness. When the relic was finished, we STOPPED going to Dynamis. Sure, afterwards you can hang out with the LS for a few weeks and do absolutely fuck all before you leave the group, you're welcome for all the farming.

All those points for HNM became absolutely useless when the shell had no leadership direction afterwards......Christ I busted my ass on BLM, you fuckin goof........You know damn right who you are. lol

The leader who upgraded before him had the decency to stick around and lead the group through smaller events that our shrinking attendance could handle. Right on for that, it's too bad no one else was willing to take lead.

I'm not naming names because it's pretty obvious.
 
mdkuser said:
I kinda aggree with the guy about refusing to farm someone's relic. how can people even dare ask others to spend 3 hours 2 time a week to farm someone's relic, come on. A fair linkshell should take right enough coins to pay for the run and free lot the rest. And don't give me that bs argument about not selling back the coins. Wether its O bronzepieces, tutkus, or gil, its acurrency used to acquire an item. and you still have the possiblility to exchange it for gil. If the coins go to a LS bank or something to pay for other events, it's ok I guess.

I joined a LS about 6 month ago, that seemed rather new and had sponsors. They did Bastok. A sponsor ( who was fucking gimp, don't remember who it is) loted all the coins and the 4 100c that droped. He made 5 millions profit that night, when like 10 other people ended up wasting 3hours, didnt get anythign not even AF2. The guy was also yelling and using <call> at 3 min left so people pass his shit. Needless to say a few weeks later nobody were even showing up.

If someone wants a relic, fucking farm it on your own, don't ask others to farm it for you. There is no reason one person should exit the dynamis run with multi milion profits when the majority of members will exit with exp, time and gil loss. And don't pretend its hard to farm the 500k needed to pay for entry, cause it's not. Even a dreamland dynamis is break even nowadays, if your LS is half decent.
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Whether or he agrees with sponsoring or not doesn't give you the right to jack up someone else's run. I'm not saying that's what you are implying here but its just fucked up. If you don't like a shell's rules just voice your complaint and leave dont ruin the run cause you disagree. That's just stupid and people will remember what you did regardless of what you are trying to do in game.
 
It definitely doesn't give this Filmore guy the right to go off the deep end and ruin a run. I'm just agreeing that sponsorship is retarded.
 
Were the rules explained to him prior to entering?
 
Yeah, it was explained while we were doing the run, he even asked if he could sponsor a run and he was asked to discuss it after the run was over but he just kept on going.
 
Hobobob said:
He has never been part of Vanquished, he knows a member of our shell and thats about as far as it goes. He has never attended a Vanquished camp or event.

On a side note, one part of the story I'm not understanding is how you're not making back the money sponsoring Dynamis. Dynamis wields EASILY a minimum 200 coin count in cities, and that's on a HORRID day. For a Sandy or a Windy all you need is a 50 coin count to break even, are you saying you're not getting 50 coin count a Dynamis? Or is it because you're been loosing money doing CoP/Xarc?
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No we haven't made 50 coins on every run. Like I said, it's a fairly new shell so starting from the beginning is rough.
 
Schwall, I miss FFXI. Gotta know for if I managed to get the money to return, which linkshell should I join and which should I be a conceited bitch to? :<



On topic - Who the hell would willingly name their character FILMORE?
 
Kaizen or Pers looks fun, but if you wanna be a real super bitch Vanquished would be your best bet. I only do Salvage and Assault now. I can be conceited like Pchan and Mdk because Salvage is god's gift to ffxi.
 
mdkuser said:
I kinda aggree with the guy about refusing to farm someone's relic. how can people even dare ask others to spend 3 hours 2 time a week to farm someone's relic, come on. A fair linkshell should take right enough coins to pay for the run and free lot the rest. And don't give me that bs argument about not selling back the coins. Wether its O bronzepieces, tutkus, or gil, its acurrency used to acquire an item. and you still have the possiblility to exchange it for gil. If the coins go to a LS bank or something to pay for other events, it's ok I guess.

I joined a LS about 6 month ago, that seemed rather new and had sponsors. They did Bastok. A sponsor ( who was fucking gimp, don't remember who it is) loted all the coins and the 4 100c that droped. He made 5 millions profit that night, when like 10 other people ended up wasting 3hours, didnt get anythign not even AF2. The guy was also yelling and using <call> at 3 min left so people pass his shit. Needless to say a few weeks later nobody were even showing up.

If someone wants a relic, fucking farm it on your own, don't ask others to farm it for you. There is no reason one person should exit the dynamis run with multi milion profits when the majority of members will exit with exp, time and gil loss. And don't pretend its hard to farm the 500k needed to pay for entry, cause it's not. Even a dreamland dynamis is break even nowadays, if your LS is half decent.
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So you must have hated doing Salvage for someone else then even when you did a zone where gear you wanted doesn't drop? If you want fucking salvage gear go farm it on your own.
 
If you join a linkshell, you agree to abide by the ruleset. If you didn't read them and bitch about it later, that's your problem.
It's not even about whether sponsorships are right or not. By joining, he agreed to their rules.
 
mdkuser said:
I kinda aggree with the guy about refusing to farm someone's relic. how can people even dare ask others to spend 3 hours 2 time a week to farm someone's relic, come on. A fair linkshell should take right enough coins to pay for the run and free lot the rest. And don't give me that bs argument about not selling back the coins. Wether its O bronzepieces, tutkus, or gil, its acurrency used to acquire an item. and you still have the possiblility to exchange it for gil. If the coins go to a LS bank or something to pay for other events, it's ok I guess.

I joined a LS about 6 month ago, that seemed rather new and had sponsors. They did Bastok. A sponsor ( who was fucking gimp, don't remember who it is) loted all the coins and the 4 100c that droped. He made 5 millions profit that night, when like 10 other people ended up wasting 3hours, didnt get anythign not even AF2. The guy was also yelling and using <call> at 3 min left so people pass his shit. Needless to say a few weeks later nobody were even showing up.

If someone wants a relic, fucking farm it on your own, don't ask others to farm it for you. There is no reason one person should exit the dynamis run with multi milion profits when the majority of members will exit with exp, time and gil loss. And don't pretend its hard to farm the 500k needed to pay for entry, cause it's not. Even a dreamland dynamis is break even nowadays, if your LS is half decent.
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Homie aren't you in my Dynamis?? LOL
 
Meikolia said:
Homie aren't you in my Dynamis?? LOL
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There is a difference between LS sponsor runs for their bank or w/e and runs sponsored by individuals who make huge profit thanks to everyone's efforts though.
 
Myrrh said:
So you must have hated doing Salvage for someone else then even when you did a zone where gear you wanted doesn't drop? If you want fucking salvage gear go farm it on your own.
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whats your point? You do not make 5Mil profits per salvage run and every members who enters my runs get at least alexandrites in the end, to pay for food/etc.
 
Please explain to me how someone upgrading a relic is making profit? Nearly everyone I know who has made one has had to borrow millions in gil/currency to even get one. And what about before the Alexandrites were added? People doing run after run with no gear and watching someone else get theirs. Same thing here.

Drop rates in this game are too inconsistent to make any long term event worth it to anyone. One group can help a person get a relic weapon or get salvage gear. One group gets Af as a reward and another gets your super duper worthwhile omg this is totally worth it Alexandrite.

Same thing goes for HNM, Einherjar, ect. Your arguments just show you hate dynamis and give you an opening to brag about fucking salvage.
 
There was a guy who asked me to sponsor to do his relic when I started linkshell but he don't want to put works into it rather other work for his relic. He would sponsor cities, I take lose gil zones with my own farming gil. He would resale % coins he got and responsor next cities for example if you get 300 coins from city you resale 100c for 500k or 1mil+ keep other 200 not including 100c drop. It's slower but in the end it's free relic while other members get shit.

Do you guys made rules for relic upgrader to keep track of their coins? Strictly never sale coins they sponsored. Each stage they will list the amount to the leaders and turn them into solid weapon and show it to everyone to prove not sold coins for profit to responsor.

If the deadline is not met with the amount of coins they got each runs, you know for sure they sold the coins back. At that point, can just remove them from sponsor and linkshell because that person is a fucking dick, try to get a free relic off of other members' exp and time. No one is better than other if they can't prove they can put works into a relic. 500,000-1,000,000/week is not hard to make even if you have to take the hits of losing gil from CoP and Xacabard for members relic armors and relic accessories. As said, most of the time you can break even in Dynamis-Xacabard with a decend group.

I'm very agree with why should everyone work for one person relic? but the answer to that is not everyone can do relic, it's hard and take years to finish. If a person have strong will and abilities to make their own gil without leech off other works to go till the end they deserve to be helped by linkshell members (Not meaning the fucking gilbuyers and bitches get funded by linkshell (Cocksuckers and Communist Rules)) because at the same time members do get benefit from it, 100c, gil items, relic armors (At least that what mine is)

Back to Filmore, this guy is an asshole, good luck with find a dynamis linkshell in the future or join any end game linkshells.
 
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