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Taruwaru said:
Mock is wrong in thinking that the color was a required part of the answer. It wasn't. No matter which way you look at the ACTUAL question, it just wasn't there.

A correct answer could have been given in the following form:
#3 can see the color of #2's hat. #4 can see both hats in front of him but still doesn't know what color his hat is. This must mean that #2 and #3 have different color hats, and thus, #3 would know the color of his hat.

Mock's question did not include a request for color, so why should it be implied that the color is required? Sculli even agreed that you can't imply in a riddle, yet we're trying to make a portion of the question implied? You don't imply a question. You specifically state it. The questions should have been written like this, "Who knew the color of their hat? What was the color of their hat and how did they know?" See the difference between that and this, "Who knew the color of their hat and why?" If not, go back to grade school.

As for why everyone was including colors in their answers, look at my answer above; it’s difficult to follow. It's much easier to follow if you specify the colors.

Having said that, it's Mock's riddle and he can award the winnings to anyone and disqualify anyone for any reason he sees fit. I do agree; however, that he needs to work on basic reading comprehension. Shame on Sculli for not noticing it either. You can't imply a question?!
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Problem was that Thnikk read the numbers backwards, but posted the correct answers using backwards numbers, BUT then said White hat. By saying white, he led Moch to conclude that he read the numbers correct, because the real #2 WAS wearing white.

Sculli then figured it out also, but used the correct # system, and said the correct hat. His awnser was closer to the required awnser than Thnikk, so he won the prize.

But, instead of realizing this, Thnikk went off saying everyone hates him, doesnt read what he says, and that we're too buisy sucking up to the admin.

He also said bad things about Sabia. He should now die.
 
Sculli said:
Re: turning 1M into 50M
If you were actually capable of doing so, you would have done so already and wouldn't be here whining about losing 600k to some bad advice that did in effect bankrupt you. People who know how to turn 1M into 50M (and I am not talking over the course of a year), tend to not be broke.
Yeah yeah, you know how to do it, just don't have the money needed to get it started, heard (read!) it all before. /yawn
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I SO said that in the other thread. Not only that, but it was a bogus point to bring up since it actually had nothing to do with his problem, he was just trying to curb favor in an attempt to make himself look good.
 
Taruwaru said:
I do agree; however, that he needs to work on basic reading comprehension. Shame on Sculli for not noticing it either. You can't imply a question?!
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Somewhere in the Happy Holiday's thread I went through Thnikk's orignal answer line by line, with an open mind, and pointed out why the explanation which suspect shouted the right number was not entirely correct. -> http://www.qcdn.org/showthread.php?p=279768

Before I posted my answer I just saw that Thnikk posted the "second guy", which was enough of an answer for me to conclude he got it wrong. That was the basis on which I made the decision to post my answer.

Later I did read through Thnikk's answer completely, and concluded that he was correct in establishing which guy, if counting from the right (I still never got the answer what made him count from the right), which only became clear to me after Thinkk made a post stating he counted from the right.

I did keep an open my as to why someone who reads from left to right, who read through the riddle in which counting from left to right was used as well (cell #1, cell #2), would for whatever odd reason count from right to left.

Honestly, reading over his original answer, I believe he got all mixed up. I believe his very first train of thought was correct, but then he lost it, and in the end got so confused that his answer probably made perfect sense to him.

The bottom line to me is that even if counting from the right, Thnikk's explanation is only partially correct. The color of the hat isn't even being considered, but Thinkk writing down the hat colors in his answer are a clear indicator that he did not fully understand what was happening (or failed to transcribe it properly from paper to QCDN).

Edit: Fiksed teh speeling.
 
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God damn man just shut up about it, you lost, let it go. You managed to take a shit on a thread celebrating the holidays, good job ^^b
 
lol, thnikk you really should stop before you get hated more than you already are, kthnx
 
I'm going to side w/ thinkk on this one, because somewhere, somebody is giving someone money that already has way too much of it, and that is totally unfail, I'm pretty sure it would do way better in the hands of me because I don't have it right now..

and I just lost like 4mil on crafting today, and I could have lost xp if I was stupid enough to go die somewhere when I don't have to because I don't get out of jeuno often, so now I'm in a bad mood, and anyone that has money you all suck ass, it's the poor guy like me that has to suffer.

Comon thinkk, let's go /shout for gil in bastok.

P.S. Thinkk stop sending me tells as to when/where we're going to start shouting for gil please.

P.P.S. do you even read your posts man?

Edit: changed wording around

Editx2: changed it around again because it's making me look bad.

Quiz: who am I?
*get this right and I'll send you 1mil gil to your delbox (unless you're thinkk)*

small print: Unphazed will not send any amount of gil to anyone because he is a lying lying bastard.
 
Sculli said:
Somewhere in the Happy Holiday's thread I went through Thnikk's orignal answer line by line, with an open mind, and pointed out why the explanation which suspect shouted the right number was not entirely correct. -> http://www.qcdn.org/showthread.php?p=279768

Before I posted my answer I just saw that Thnikk posted the "second guy", which was enough of an answer for me to conclude he got it wrong. That was the basis on which I made the decision to post my answer.

Later I did read through Thnikk's answer completely, and concluded that he was correct in establishing which guy, if counting from the right (I still never got the answer what made him count from the right), which only became clear to me after Thinkk made a post stating he counted from the right.

I did keep an open my as to why someone who reads from left to right, who read through the riddle in which counting from left to right was used as well (cell #1, cell #2), would for whatever odd reason count from right to left.

Honestly, reading over his original answer, I believe he got all mixed up. I believe his very first train of thought was correct, but then he lost it, and in the end got so confused that his answer probably made perfect sense to him.

The bottom line to me is that even if counting from the right, Thnikk's explanation is only partially correct. The color of the hat isn't even being considered, but Thinkk writing down the hat colors in his answer are a clear indicator that he did not fully understand what was happening (or failed to transcribe it properly from paper to QCDN).

Edit: Fiksed teh speeling.
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Sculli, my comment was referencing one of your posts where you were agreeing that the color was required for the answer. Sorry I didn't clarify that.

I do agree that since the prisoners were numbered, he should have given the correct number. By answering the wrong number, he lost. I do not agree that answering the wrong color should have had anything to do with it.

Thnikkaman said:
if it weren't for my shitty attitude, unintelligent posts, and noobishness, I'd probably still be liked
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I corrected that one for you.
 
Thnikkaman said:
I know that was meant to be an assholic statement, but because I'm already in a bad mood, I'm just gonna accept it as a nice statement.

I know you're all going to be happy I go. It's sad, though. I'm now hated because no one reads English anymore... I guess I will kind of miss the whole fun of everyone hating eachother and stuff. I might be back one day when you people grow up. Until then, I got lots of work to do this week anyway, so it's a good thing I'm quitting QCDN for a while.

Nice to meet you all. Even those who have no conscience.
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Thnikk, this might be a hard concept for you to understand, but it isnt the 'factual' content (and I use the term loosely), the bit that you constantly ask us to read, that is pissing people off. Its your freaking ridiculous attitude! Why oh why didnt you just try and explain your point in a civil way and be gracious about the outcome, instead of insulting everyone who thinks different to you, shouting your head off and being a moron?

The money thing was a gift that Moch wanted to give out, it was never yours, it belonged to whoever Moch wanted to give it to, and the question was a bit of fun to help him decide. Thnikk, if your entire existence in this game revolves around 1 measly mil, go mining for a couple of weeks, you can get 100-120k a trip in gusgen, or do BCNM20 for an astral ring, thats 1.6 mil right there!

There are ways of getting your point across without sounding like an obsessive weirdo and alienating an entire community.
 
Thinkkaman said:
How is "can I have 1mil to make it into 50mil to give it out to Sabia and back to Moch" greed?
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It isn't greed, it's a lie. If you knew how to do that, you would have more than 30k and you wouldn't be here complaining about a miesly 1M.
 
Wow, that happy holidays thread sucks, and so does this one.

1. As I said in another thread..Thnikk, you're annoying. So very, very annoying.... *sigh*
2. If you can turn 1m into 50m, just start with 4k, turn it into 200k, then 1m, then 50m. Since it's so easy...or are you talking about some kindof three-year plan?
3. That puzzle is logically incorrect anyways. The second any prisoner gestured, moved their head to look downwards at a prisoner in front of them or spoke out a guess they'd be shot. They're screwed any way you look at it.


P.S. Don't care what jobs you hate, and stop using the "you don't read my posts"/"OMGILLITERACY" defence. Colbwacolbwacolbwa.
 
Oh, and I suck at math. Should be 400g -> 20k -> 1mil -> 50mil, since he plans to magically fifty-fold his money holdings =P
 
Wow, just wow. This thread is turning out to be a clone of the old one. The majority agrees that thnikka doesn't have a leg to stand on, so let's not continue trying to explain to him how he's wrong. If he can't accept it after 40 pages of posting then he never will.

Well, unless you're just doing this to ridicule him, that I support. Carry on. :P
 
/ignored
 
"Happy Holidays" seems to have gone from a simple thread to an argument about his win to an argument about stupidity. if you guys actually listened to the guy, and nyrona, you would have seen how he was right. after a while you guys just all started teaming up on him for no reason. some guys seemed to notice how stupid it was and got mad at thnik, then none of this wouldve happened.

also, you can't 'magically turn' 1 mil into 50 mil like what you guys are thinking. it doesnt work that way, but you guys just cant read his posts.
Thnikkaman said:
Thnikkaman>> Read my posts!
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you guys could learn a lot from this...
 
hahahahahha!!!! Sculli, I'll lay odds 10-1 this is a sockpuppet.
 
PS. sorry for the postcount, but it just never friggin' fails. They ALWAYS pull this crap eh?
 
Junefly said:
also, you can't 'magically turn' 1 mil into 50 mil like what you guys are thinking. it doesnt work that way, but you guys just cant read his posts
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Apparently, neither can you. Because magically turning 1M into 50M is exactly what Thnikk was proposing he would do with the 1M.
 
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