Flamin SE here for a moment...

Oh, here's a little lesson on HDTV.

HDTV is digital and set at a resolution that doesn't easily translate into what "old" TV was set at.

This is a prime example of the common complaints one hears abotu HDTV. There are 3 major holes in the technology: DVD, Anologue TV, and Older Video Games.

The issue here isn't SE, nor is it your PS2/PS3, it's the Hardware in the TV and how it decides to interpolate the images it receives. In other words, you are sending a game signal ser at Anologue TV's rate of (NTSC) ~480 x 600, and you are showing it on a screen that is either (720i/p) 1280 x 720 or (1080i/p) 1920 x 1080. You're stretchign the image over a larger canvass, and the TV hardware's trying to make sense of it.

Now there are multiple solutions to this problem, unfortunately none are really reasonable: Using a PC on your HDTV, buying an HDTV with better logic, etc.

But for now, I think you are kinda borked.

You sure you have your Aspect Ratio set right? Menu >> Config >> Misc >> Aspect ratio 16:10.
 
Only that the ps2 is that ugly and looks worse on a lcd hdtv. Not all older games look bad. Depends on the model you buy. The ps2 ver probably doesn't support p-scan either. S-video and component are definitely much better with image quality but the low res and ugly muddy textures kill it.
 
The Aspect ratio is staying at 4:3 even tho I changed the settings for 16:9. And we're not using S-Video. The TV itself is a Pioneer that just makes everything else so very pretty.

I understand that I'm looking at crappy ass graphics on a monitor that now has a higher resolution setting. And I've already come to the conclusion that when our new PC is built that I'll have to play the game on the new PC as opposed to the PS3. Once I told my husband about this he seemed happy to the idea of getting half his HD back on the PS3 with the amount of space that FFXI takes up on the PS3's HD.

See you guys in a couple weeks... T.T I seriously can't stand seeing how crappy the game is now on HD...
 
Myihta said:
We're on a PS3 right now. PS2 is out the door. And he got the HDMI cable for the PS3 to the HDTV.

And I know that the PS2 had its limitations in regards to what it could do graphically at the time when FFXI was originally released. I'm not crying about the idea of porting over FFXI to the PS3 but a lot of companies out there have looked into the idea of porting over classic old games from older technology to newer technology. Since FFXI is ongoing it wouldn't be too difficult of an idea. I know I led this flame open to the fanboys of crapping on the platforms that they don't enjoy but I'm kind of hoping that I get some experience from other players out there who might have been in the same boat as me. I'd rather not play the game anymore on the account of how crappy it looks now.
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this is your problem don't get rid of gold for copper.
 
awesome that they lifted your ban so you can regurgitate this pearly bit of wisdom that hasnt already been said by damn near everyone above... stoopid f'n monkey
 
The PS2 is terrible, nothing can help it. I have a nice HDTV, but whenever Antor's over and I'm out there playing (usually I'm on my PC, but it's more comfortable out there) he calls it "FFXI: SNES"
 
Isomiau said:
awesome that they lifted your ban so you can regurgitate this pearly bit of wisdom that hasnt already been said by damn near everyone above... stoopid f'n monkey
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No I said PS2 has value and is basically gold. PS3 is copper has value can be used for lots of things but is reliant on other things to make it good such as ps2 games and Blu-ray. There isn't much out game wise right now to make the price tag worth it for a game console. Yes I know Warhawk and Heavenly Sword just came out recently, and Resistance and Motorstorm are hailed as great titles. MGS4 is coming out, but I'm talking about right now not the future.
 
romperstomper said:
There isn't much out game wise right now to make the price tag worth it for a game console. Yes I know Warhawk and Heavenly Sword just came out recently, and Resistance and Motorstorm are hailed as great titles. MGS4 is coming out, but I'm talking about right now not the future.
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Well for futures sake don't forget Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy (Versus) XIII. >.>

-Solan
 
Solan said:
Well for futures sake don't forget Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy (Versus) XIII. >.>

-Solan
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We don't have a release date for either. We have an idea on MGS4, and we can assume FFXIII comes out late 08. I wouldn't expect KHIII til mid 09.
 
Looks a good sight better on 360 than on PS2 though.
 
romperstomper said:
We don't have a release date for either. We have an idea on MGS4, and we can assume FFXIII comes out late 08. I wouldn't expect KHIII til mid 09.
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We can dream Rompy...

We can dream.
 
Play on PC. Its way better anyways.
 
If you want to see FFXI in what little glory it has for HD, you will need a 360 or a PC. PS2 is the worst looking one and I know the difference because I own all versions (no PC, but I have seen it). Since we are just running our PS2 game on the PS3 it will not look better on hook up.

SE needs to release an updated graphic version for the PS2, be it on DVD or Playstation Online Store.

What I can tell you to ease your eyes, is what I did to help me when I play FF on PS3:

- Go to (Settings)
- Go down and enter (Game Settings)
- (PS/PS2 Upscaler) sets the display methods for HD resolutions. Set it to: (Full Screen)
- (PS2 Smoothing) needs to be: On

Since you are running the PS3 on HDMI too, that input will make older games look even worse. This setting will at least make FFXI look like it did on your PS2 and will help other games you have look smoother. ^^
 
Didn't Sony kill PS3's PS2 backwards compatibility when it turned out that all PS2 games look ASS on PS3?
 
Gerry said:
Didn't Sony kill PS3's PS2 backwards compatibility when it turned out that all PS2 games look ASS on PS3?
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I thought PS3 was going to emulation for PS2 and PSX support.
 
I remember a story being post that PS3 actually worsens the graphics by a tiny bit or something, I don't know if they fixed it though.

FFXI is 5 years old now? It's going to look like crap no matter what.
 
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