Flaming FFXI & WOW

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I quit the game about a year ago, but still think about coming back. Some people hated me for dumb ass reasons but I let it go because after all it is just a game.

But if any of you are married out there I'd really sugest you check out this news article on Yahoo.com. I for one know how addictive this game can be and of course WoW is just as addictive. I know some people who have personally went threw this.

Heres the site. Check it out.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/videogames.yahoo.com/feature/wedding-woes-the-dark-side-of-warcraft/1186366

Im only flaming ffxi and wow due to this matter. I still love the game and would love to come back, but my real life is more important. Being a dad and a husband is hard work lol.

So in short... to all those people out there in a relationship and playing this game please check out the site and read what is said. And always remember that real life is way more important. This game wont always be here, but your kids and loved ones will.



Here's the convo that was on the site. Just in case some of you are too lazy to look lol.



Wedding Woes: The Dark Side of Warcraft
Popular online PC game is causing marital discord.
By Mike Smith



Although best-selling online role-playing game World of Warcraft boasts over ten million subscribers, it's also leaving in its wake an increasing list of casualties.

Even though she's never played the game, 28 year-old Jocelyn is one of the fallen. A well-spoken California resident, she divorced her husband of six years after he developed a crippling addiction to the smash online RPG.

"He would get home from work at 6:00, start playing at 6:30, and he'd play until three a.m. Weekends were worse -- it was from morning straight through until the middle of the night," she told Yahoo! Games in an interview. "It took away all of our time that we spent together. I ceased to exist in his life."

Jocelyn had been friends with her ex-husband Peter since the age of 13, but it took only nine months for her marriage to collapse.

"I bought the game for him for Christmas 2004, when it first came out. By May we had our first serious discussion about where our marriage was going, and by September I had moved out," she said.

Jocelyn recalled one particular incident that was typical of Peter's habits. "I had set aside 30 minutes for us to watch a television show together, and he couldn't. He was stuck on a raid, and completely failed to understand why I was upset," she said.

Peter's domestic duties also suffered. He stopped paying bills, she says, and refused to do his share of the housework.

Jocelyn doesn't hesitate to cite Warcraft as the main reason for her divorce and remains emotional about its impact on her marriage. "I'm real, and you're giving me up for a fantasy land. You're destroying your life, your six-year marriage, and you're giving it up for something that isn't even real."

Despite their differences, the couple remains friends, and although Peter still plays World of Warcraft, Jocelyn says he made an effort to cut down after their split.

A gamer herself, Jocelyn briefly worked for World of Warcraft developer Blizzard Entertainment, although not on the title that proved so damaging to her relationship. "I recognized that this was a game that would never end, and that's why I chose not to play it," she said.

"They build it in such a way that you have to keep putting more and more time into it to maintain your status. I remember thinking when I was married that it was downright exploitative to people who couldn't control themselves in that way. It's set up like a drug."

Asked if she would consider marrying another Warcraft player, Jocelyn laughed. "That's actually one of my primary criteria now -- I don't want to marry someone who is a gamer."


To all those that want to de-rail this post go for it. Only imature kids and loser's would de-rail because if you were mature you would know this is a very serious thing.


Peace out FFXI once again... Much Love ~Orin~
 
Maybe she should have played WoW with him? :P

I guess it would be tougher with kids, but you have to be mature enough to know when you can play and when you can't, and how much is too much. It's called being an adult. ;)
 
I'd blame the wife for the marriage falling apart more than WoW; she apparently didn't do anything to try to save the marriage, sounds like WoW is just the excuse. She gave crack to an addict, but she's not to blame?

These cases are so far in the minority that they're statistically insignificant; she probably just has a friend who wrote the article and that's the only reason why it's been reported on at all. Only an immature loser would think that this is a serious enough problem to require reporting on.
 
if you are playing a mmo enough to deprive yourself of anything to better your real life, you are playing too much.

this list would include

a job
money (read above)
sleep
relationship
health
fitness (read above)

the list could go on.

I set aside 3 days a week for online activity.

of those 3 days, I usually leave the whole day open, but it is a rare occurance for me to be there the entire time.

pro tip: that's a lot of time.
 
There are people who take it too far. But to blame the median is equally stupid. That's like saying the game MAKES you sit glued to your chair staring at the screen. No it doesn't; You do. You chose it, so accept the consequences of your choice and stop blaming everything around you. The husband is to blame for his actions... and she is to blame for her inaction.
 
These articles make me laugh.

The video game has 0 fault in this particular story, the fault lies with both the woman for doing (apparently) very little to solve the problem, and the man for having absolutely no touch with reality, no self control, and no discipline.

Just because the game is "addictive" doesn't mean you have to become an addict.
 
You know, you could replace every mention of "playing WOW" in that article with "watching professional sports" and you'd have about 70% of the marriages in the US.
 
ON THE OTHER HAND.

My first GF and I met over ffxi. We ended up going out for 3 years before breaking up...

Now it hurts every time I walk by that one crack in la theine where we spent hours hanging out...

=/
 
Didn't Oprah do an Episode on this? The guy broke his WoW disks(lol right there) and they lived happily ever after.

Seriously, people need to stop blaming their problems on Video games. Weak minded dumbfucks.
 
Cause we all know you need the disks to play AMIRITE? Lawl.

And seriously, that bitch need to shut up and get in the kitchen and make that man a sandwich. She obviously isn't cleaning/cooking enough if she has time to bitch about him playing wow.
 
If you can control your time spent in the game, then kudos to you.

If you can't control it, then maybe playing MMOs is not something for you.

RL is important, yes, but to blame a marriage falling apart on a game is equally stupid as jumping off a cliff just because you see everyone else do it.

If you don't want that to happen, then do something about it.
You can unplug the game on your spouse, and then you can talk to him/her about it.
Chances are, the spouse will be angry at you for the moment but if you give him/her your 2 cents about it there is a good chance that they will listen.

The top two reasons why I think people play MMOs alot are:
1) They got alot of time on their hands
2) They want to escape some aspect of RL (bad day at work, school, or even your nagging spouse, you name it)

To blame a game for your divorce?
Puh-leeese.
Balancing the game with your responsibilities is the best way to go.
If you can't do that, then don't play it.
It's as simple as that.
 
You know, you could replace every mention of "playing WOW" in that article with "watching professional sports" and you'd have about 70% of the marriages in the US.

No kidding. There's a reason we have the term "football widow." It's just more fear-mongering bullshit... and distinctly one-sided. I have no problem believing her ex-husband could get wrapped up in the game and let the marriage dissolve, but they could've at least interviewed him as well.

"Fuck, is she still going on about how I wanted to do a raid more than I wanted to watch 'How to Look Good Naked'? What man wouldn't rather do that?"
 
As people have already said, it looks like she didn't do a whole lot to resolve the issue at hand. But then again, neither did he it seems.

I noticed, she said she set aside 30 minutes for them to watch tv together and he was in a raid. Well.. that 30 minutes wasn't gonna save their marriage. I don't see the point of bringing that up in the interview other than to further bash him. And watching tv together can help in some cases I guess, but you're still not spending real time together since you're both focused on the tv instead of each other.

Personally, since I'm a mmo addict to an extent and so is my fiancee, I wouldn't ask him to come watch some stupid tv show with me if he was scheduled to raid or do end game. Now if he was just screwing around doing nothing then yea I'd get mad if he stayed on when I asked him previously to spend some time with me off game and he had agreed to do so. If he was stuck in a raid I'd probably sit down and watch since I don't raid myself.

As for someone saying that she should've played WoW with him. I agree to that. I believe you should at least try to spend time doing something your significant other likes to do. Be it watching football, watching "How To Look Good Naked" or playing a video game. If you absolutely hate it, then don't do it, but at least make an effort to do things together sometimes that the other enjoys instead of trying to make them do what you want only.

Regardless, you can't tell someone not to do something just because you don't like it and expect them to listen.

Always gets on my nerves that so many friends complain about girlfriends or wives telling them they can't play video games anymore, or can only play certain times of day. To me that's way out of line, unless it's an extreme situation like I guess the one in the story. Guy wouldn't pay bills or do anything at all, she says. But then you could ask them or bring it up somehow to get them to understand instead of just saying "You can't do that anymore because I say so." That never works just makes people feel like their being treated like a child.

I agree they should've interviewed him also instead of just making him out to be some neglectful video game addict. Which he could've been but there was probably more behind the story than she admitted to.

Anyways just my thoughts.
 
Somehoe, after reading that article, I don't really feel that sympathetic towards the girl. Like almost everyone that has already posted, the article made it sound like she didn't really try hard enough to save the marriage.

Besides the parts where the guys doesn't pay the bills etc (which is a no no) the article made it sound like the only way for a marriage to work is by spending time watching TV (or other stuff that the wife deems as worthy).

I'm not saying that thew ife has no right to feel neglected and angry, nor that the guy was right for playing MMOs all the time. Just that the article makes the whole thing sound so flippant.
 
spend time playing video game or watching tv, they all the same to me, just different way of passing time
 
After doing the math, she must've been 20 years old (or damned close) when they got married. That's a good jump start on divorce right there.
 
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