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not good enough. i demand more plugs.
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not good enough. i demand more plugs.
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You know, exaggeration of what other people are saying also implies guilt. Noone called you "heartless monster". Noone called you a "supervillian". As a matter of fact, I do believe people that would be properly named as such A. wouldn't get caught (supervillian). B. Wouldn't lash out so emotionally. (heartless monster).
Let's not get overdramatic. If you had been calm and just discussed it, I honestly would of been more apt to accept both sides of the events.
Let's not get overdramatic. If you had been calm and just discussed it, I honestly would of been more apt to accept both sides of the events.
Ah, right. I was just explaining why she would loan said gear to someone else.
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This may come as a shock to you, but not everyone is calm when they are angry, especially when getting flamed on QCDN. =P
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lol, Rhaddy's title is our Rosebud (See: Citizen Kane). When she finally confessed she said "-_-; OK...". It has been an inside joke amongst several people for months. Lets see... the osode was actually rhaddy's, mirewen told rhaddy because i was ashamed that I got looted. I figured out she did it on my own but were it not for them she would have gone scott-free. Rhaddy Rhaddy Rhaddy. There rhaddy, go back to camping fafnir.
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Funny, she isn't exactly the definition of honest at this point. If she had really said sorry immediatly she wouldn't have a reason to feel guilty meaning she wouldnt have a reason to lash out.
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Neo: Mish stole all my stuff and I'm flaming her now.
Reasonable response from Mish if she had already apologized and guilt free: "Yeah? and I already apologized. So whats your point?"
HOLY CRAP! You see that? Calm rationality.
Mishaela I just don't understand it. Cut the bullshit out. Why did you do it? I've been asking myself for months now. Wasn't I a good friend? Didn't I even tell you I thought of you as a sister and if you needed help irl or in game all you had to do was holla? Come on girl. This is me being real. What's up with that?
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I'm gonna share with you and everyone else a secret to the flame board. If you don't respond to flames against you, they become practically worthless. To further compound this, you are not required to respond in a "timely" fashion to anything written about you either. People understand that we are all on different clocks, and will wait for a response. So everyone can be at ease and know... you can always walk away and cool off for a while. In fact, it is more to a person's benefit to do so, as even if you're completely 100% correct and right, you loose credibility by coming off as a bitch/asshole.
Let's say, hypothetically, that I pissed you off or did something you viewed to be some kind of betrayal. Afterwards, I tried to deny it but realized it was pointless and apologized. You accepted my apology, and life went on. Then several months later you post a flame about me about this incident you already forgave me for. Should I not be angry?
Her reaction is perfectly understandable in this situation.
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Anyone who knows me knows I work my hardest to earn my gear and help LSes and that honor is one of the most precious things to me...I've had people loan me Osodes, several million gil, both of which I gave back as soon as I was...I don't know the word...I payed back gil as soon as I could, many people can vouch for this, and I gave back the Osode as soon as the person who lent it back...
I have a bad temper, and I do take things personally quickly, but something like this would especially get to me...I utterly despise thieves, and I believe entirely in earning crap. I know how hard it is to earn crap in this dumb game...the forum knows, I mean I bitched incessantly about Biast and it's ridiculous droprate. That being said, I am completely hurt that ANYONE would think I'd purposely steal from someone, let alone plot to do it over a course of several months like he says I did. If I'd been making some multi-month "scheme" to rob him blind, why would I give the stuff back to him? Why would I have only taken a few items and not everything worth anything? Doesn't that just seem a LITTLE off?
The worst part of this is the fact that people somehow think I actually planned to do this. I can't believe I give off that kindof impression.
Because "sorry" isn't a magical, all-healing word. I said I was sorry, and I continue to be sorry. It was a very stupid thing I've held against myself to this day, and not just because of some forum topic about it. Sorry if this isn't what you meant by your post, getting a headache because of all of this.
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Taking months to come clean...just doesn't tell me I'm sorry. It doesn't take months to realize what was done was wrong...shit, even Mrtaru gave the crap back to Nooby (forgot his name) within a few days and apologized.
From someone who wants to be seen as an upstanding citizen of Quetzy...lol.
From someone who wants to be seen as an upstanding citizen of Quetzy...lol.
if you believe in earning your gear, then why did you borrow his in the first place.
It's good advice, but not everyone is as level-headed as this. I've never been flamed before, so I don't really expect someone else to keep their cool either. I don't visit QCDN terribly often, but it seems Mish isn't exactly the topic of many flames.
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The whole thing was solved that day, he's just bringing it to the flameboard months after the fact.
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Mishaela said:
Why would you take it in the first place without telling me? Why would you deny it? My PC is always on, you know where I'm at. Stop acting like I wouldnt have understood the situation. As you even said yourself when I got you to confess, "I need to stop being such a chickenshit". I have nothing to gain from this. I knew those drunken rants when I was hopped up on anti-depressants and alchohol would be your only defense. You know I could completely shut you the fuck down with all the "waaaaahmbulance" and all that personal shit you told me about. But I don't play like that. Play your hand woman, I havent got all fucking night.
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Actually, you just harass your LS into taking slightly inactive people off of priority lists for things, despite the fact that they'd been helping the LS for months before you got there.
Oops, was that out loud?
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I didn't take months to come clean, I came clean the day the incident occurred several months ago and we'd agreed it was just a misunderstanding. If you mean "openly admit every single screwup I ever make", then wouldn't that just make me come off as an even bigger attention whore?
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You seemed to miss the part where he led me to believe he was erasing his character. Also, look at my jobs...I don't exactly have any reason to buy my own SH since it'd more or less be for goofing off in and nothing more. =/
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Some of the people had 1/8 per month attendance at best. Yeah, I do personally think they shouldn't keep priority on stuff when they retain such an attendance for months on end. And I didn't harass anyone in the least, I simply asked how people with near-nonexistant attendance retained first priority on stuff...because honestly, most any LS I've heard of wouldn't fly with that.
and that shit that you took without asking. The Osode (i think was his) and the other serious shit.
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Who is "we"? Me? You know that's not right.
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It sounds to me like a misunderstanding gone sour. That's as much as I'm willing to put into this topic as I highly respect both of you.
*drops 10 foot pole and walks away*
*drops 10 foot pole and walks away*
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You again missed the part where he told me it was okay to take anything as long as I told him as soon as I could. Are you even reading the thread?
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