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Sorry RaiderX, I did skim it a bit too much. My apologies :)

Anyway, where she says "I took some stuff because you were going to erase" pretty much affirms that she implied to take it and keep it, until she got caught doesn't it? I'm not arguing with anyone, this is just how I precieve it.
 
man what a melodramatic cry for attention over something of no consequence from months ago that was brought back for no reason, perhaps livejournal would be a better avenue for posts like this in future

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I know Artem's account information, as well as several other people's, and I fully understand that they don't want me taking stuff from them. Maybe I have too much of a heart, but I couldn't work up the guts to take something from any of them, and they probably know that. I mean hell, Artem knows where I keep my spare key to my house; I trust the guy and I'm pretty sure he trusts me enough.

I wouldn't say to not give out your account information, but make pretty damn sure that you know you can trust them. Sometimes that actually requires living near the person.
 
Sorry RaiderX, I did skim it a bit too much. My apologies :)

Ohh hey its cool, you're a LOLgirlONtehInternets anyway right so i mean, you can do w/e and its cool amirite? lol j/k

Shit happens.

I wouldn't say to not give out your account information, but make pretty damn sure that you know you can trust them. Sometimes that actually requires living near the person.

I would. Either that or don't bitch when they take your shit. It's your call, and at the end of the day you're the one who gave them the info. Or if you live near them and they take your shit, you can always break there legs with a bat... i hear that works lol.
 
Like I said in other posts, mistakes were made, but for it to have turned into this is ridiculous. Anyone here who has never been caught in something and lied about it at first because they were scared or paniced speak up, or else admit that this is way overblown.

I certainly have lied in such a case. It saved my ass from beatings multiple times as a kid.

Of course, eventually I had to own up to it when the person in question was less PO'ed. See where I'm going with this?
 
I would. Either that or don't bitch when they take your shit. It's your call, and at the end of the day you're the one who gave them the info. Or if you live near them and they take your shit, you can always break there legs with a bat... i hear that works lol.

So basically you're saying, "I disagree with you, but I agree with you completely." I'm confused.
 
I know Artem's account information, as well as several other people's, and I fully understand that they don't want me taking stuff from them. Maybe I have too much of a heart, but I couldn't work up the guts to take something from any of them, and they probably know that. I mean hell, Artem knows where I keep my spare key to my house; I trust the guy and I'm pretty sure he trusts me enough.

I wouldn't say to not give out your account information, but make pretty damn sure that you know you can trust them. Sometimes that actually requires living near the person.

He did say she could take stuff though. If I gave you access to my account saying "take any gil you need", I would expect to come back to it with less gil. Not cry over it, because I changed my mind. If I said nothing else but "here have access to my account", I'd expect you to be smart enough to know not to take anything without asking first.
 
So basically you're saying, "I disagree with you, but I agree with you completely." I'm confused.

No, i don't agree with you at all. However, on the outside chance you do live close, and you do give them the info, it's still your fault if they take your shit. if you break there legs though theres a good chance you could get it back. Basically the bat is an out for being dumb enough to give out your info.

Well i guess your not dumb if you give out your info... but dumb if you give out your info and you cry cause your shit got jacked.
 
The thing that makes this overblown to me is the time it took to come out with this. If this was such a agregeous offense, and he was so hurt to the point where he can't trust people anymore. Why wait all this time. All of a sudden she's such a menace and he doesn't want this to happen to anyone else but it takes all this time to tell people.

He got his stuff back and apparently he was satisfied with the way it was handled between them, (which is where this probably should have stayed), but now it's this huge crime, I don't get it.
 
So again, you're saying "I don't agree with you, but I agree with you." Make up your mind or maybe reread what I said. My last sentence pretty much sums up everything you're saying.
 
So again, you're saying "I don't agree with you, but I agree with you." Make up your mind or maybe reread what I said. My last sentence pretty much sums up everything you're saying.

Kind of? Sorry I'll rephrase. Don't give out your info. But breaking someones legs with a bat sounds like a hell of alot of fun.

Better? Especially if they are some god damn mongorians tryna break a down my shitty wall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Pk3KeWVng
 
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Captain! We have a breach of stupid in the thread! I'll do my best to quarantine it.

Next you're going to say that rape only happens because people are horny and can't get laid, and control has nothing to do with it.

Speaking of "phailing", here's a concept you seem to fail to understand. Scope.
For example: guy walks into a store, steals a $1 pack of gum.
1 million guys walk into a different store, each stealing a single $1 pack of gum.
$1 theft vs. $1 million theft. Can't be compared. Completely different. Err wait, no. They're *strikingly* similar. In fact, arguably the biggest two differences are the financial hit, and the amount of time it takes to recover from said financial loss. So the scope of the damages is higher on the $1 million theft. Common sense, no?

Example 2:
We have 2 renovation projects here. We'll call them Project A and Project B for simplicity's sake.
Project A: You go to a Tree Garden, pick up a sapling, and plant it in your front yard. So you need a shovel, some work gloves, a truck, and that's about it.
Project B: You go to a Tree Garden, and for some reason, you buy a fully grown Oak. You'll need a heavy duty truck to ship it in, probably a crane to lift it in and out of the truck, machinery to dig the giant hole, a carefully planned route if you're going through the city (ie no overpasses, tunnels, etc.), more than one person. There's a lot more things to worry about, and it'll take a lot more time, money and effort to carry out Project B versus Project A. Thus the scope of the project is bigger.
So it takes more time to move a fully grown Oak tree, than a sapling. Again, common sense to the rescue.

Let's do a relevant example. For argument's sake, that influenza and pnuemonia have the same early symptons. So it would be difficult to tell one from the other in the early stages of the disease. However when it progresses, the symptoms became far worse than the flu would account for. The same symptoms mind, but just worse. Like a comparison between headaches and migraines. That's kind of what I mean here. Stealing basically your entire FFXI item career, is like the flu, whereas being sexually abused is like pnuemonia.
Flu is rarely fatal in modern times, but pnuemonia has a much higher fatality rate. (Yes I'm aware influenza killed more people in 1918 than WWI.)

We, in the English language, call these concepts "analogous". Meaning you can draw analogies between the two. There are legitimate comparisons to be made (apples & pears vs. apples & oranges). You can draw parallels between the two.

Now let's read your post again. You're saying that you have had an item, or items stolen from you in past in much the same fashion as Neo. But that you didn't need to go see a psychiatrist, and a fair percentage of sexually abused victims do. So you're saying that the psychological damage from having an item stolen from your account was less than being sexually abused? So the scope of the damage is less. Great Odin's Raven, you might be on to something.

So in one small post, you managed to not only prove a point for me (albeit one I didn't think needed proving because it was goddamned blatantly obvious, but I'll give credit where credit is due), make yourself look like an idiot and a liar (how can I be failing when you're elaborating on the very same statement without changing it?).
You might not get this whole comparison/analogy/metaphor thing, but damn, can you ever multitask.
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What I was pointing out is that you are SEVERELY overexaggerating the situation. What you're saying is, when someone comes up to you crying, saying they were raped, you can say " I understand how you feel, someone punched me in the arm the other day." Comparison O.O I am no where near stupid, you are just overdramatizing to prove a point. You example does phail, even if I am the only one smart enough to see it. Rape is a serious thing, stealing virtual things from a friend, AT MOST will end a friendship.

The real issue here is YOUR problem with her, not the OP's. I understand how comparisons work, but the obvious point of that comparison wasnt to show similarities between the 2, but to blow the situation to much larger then it really is. Was she your friend? Did she steal from you? Guess what, your opinion doesn't matter, the situation had nothing to do with you whatsoever.

And the reason why I was stated it failed (proper spelling, you might try to make me look like an idiot for having fun with the spelling) is that rape is not something to be used so lightly. Mention something about suicide, and everyone jumps down your throat. Tell someone what they did is like when some guy molested little kids, and everyone else is like "Oh yeah I see your point". Next time, tone down your "comparison".


Edit: One more thing before I goto work, were the children in your "example" actually molested? Because we still are truly unclear if this was theft, which definitely makes the two situations not comparable if it wasn't. Also, did the coach apologize? Sometimes courts will go easier on the offender if they feel remorse towards their act. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "Like apples and oranges" a common phrase meaning you CAN'T compare them? Adding an extra fruit in there doesn't really change the meaning.
 
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What I was pointing out is that you are SEVERELY overexaggerating the situation. What you're saying is, when someone comes up to you crying, saying they were raped, you can say " I understand how you feel, someone punched me in the arm the other day." Comparison O.O I am no where near stupid, you are just overdramatizing to prove a point. You example does phail, even if I am the only one smart enough to see it. Rape is a serious thing, stealing virtual things from a friend, AT MOST will end a friendship.

The real issue here is YOUR problem with her, not the OP's. I understand how comparisons work, but the obvious point of that comparison wasnt to show similarities between the 2, but to blow the situation to much larger then it really is. Was she your friend? Did she steal from you? Guess what, your opinion doesn't matter, the situation had nothing to do with you whatsoever.

And the reason why I was stated it failed (proper spelling, you might try to make me look like an idiot for having fun with the spelling) is that rape is not something to be used so lightly. Mention something about suicide, and everyone jumps down your throat. Tell someone what they did is like when some guy molested little kids, and everyone else is like "Oh yeah I see your point". Next time, tone down your "comparison".

More epic than Malagra's first post. That is all. Shit i need to stop posting in this thread.
 
More epic than Malagra's first post. That is all. Shit i need to stop posting in this thread.

Lol, I don't even care about the OP anymore, I just felt I had to respond to that. I did mean what I said, which wasn't quoted. This is now up to the OP and Mish, the rest of us have nothing to do with it anymore.
 
Lol, I don't even care about the OP anymore, I just felt I had to respond to that. I did mean what I said, which wasn't quoted. This is now up to the OP and Mish, the rest of us have nothing to do with it anymore.

Until she decides to befriend someone else. Which is why this was posted in the first place, as a warning.
 
after 44 fucking pages one of the main posters finally conceeds to something that should have been said on page 10.... About 200 People have said we were warned long time ago.... We understand lego was hurt and he wanted to say this.... Now can we please lock this?
 
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