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Rayebee said:
Because in most situations after going through the Crab Battle Simulator, the combined damage from the second skill + chain damage will do more than the Black Mages magic burst.
XD got me on the last question, hell.. I kno im like that ^^:
:O MUST CAUSE TONZ OF DMG !!!
:O MUST CAUSE TONZ OF DMG !!!
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lol... The Sams are just Jealous of DRKs!
this sounds like a dragoon I had the um.. pleasure of partying with the past couple days lol
DRG's who don't STFU and open distortion. Yeah. Kick them out of the PT please D: I don't need people like that crapping up muh job. DRG Ws's suck. Their DMG sucks. Penta Thrust sucks vs IT. Most of the time anywho. DRG isn't on par with MNK, but they're more DoT. Due to the Wyvern and whatnot.
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I hate when the DRG says "No, that WS sucks. Let me just solo Penta Thrust" <.<;
Although, the same goes for DRK and Guillotine =/
WAR's are lucky XD Rampage can atleast chain with a lot of things ^^;
Although, the same goes for DRK and Guillotine =/
WAR's are lucky XD Rampage can atleast chain with a lot of things ^^;
do i get the right the bitch if i'm told not the "Viper Bite" or "Danceing Edge"? i would seriously laugh and disband if told otherwise. feel free the tell me if i'm wrong, but those 2 are king's for thf's! funny how a thf's weaponskill is garrented cause its the hate going on the tank :/
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heh baj nice find.
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*sigh*
I just saw this and all I all have to say is: Ugh, garbage.. funny.. but garbage.. >.>;
Sadly the same can be said of any stupid person playing any melee job, for the B's anyway.
Though I have to say.. ending with Guillotine (when you get it) is for the most part highly effective when making Induration, which is essentially like Distortion since all mages do on distortion is use ice spells anyway. It works, the smart drk fights the mobs which are weak against it anyway. That or bust out GS, several times I used GS simply because whatever I was fighting was not good for a scythe WS, GS proved to be more effective.
Yeah.. I know this is a joke.. but I hate it that stupid idiots give us a bad rap. Im sure every job hates that, but only a few actaully get picked on. Drg.. Smn.. Drk.. these are a few jobs that when someone sucks its quite noticable because they don't have an understanding of it. Samuria is one of them too, you have to know SC's and what's compatible with what or else that too gets flamed because some idiot is giving it a whirl.
Heck.. on the rare occasions I play Drg, I use it to have fun on and for the most part goof off, as in being playful. But i'll be damned if I do a poor job and make it look like Drg is a waste, because I really like the unique melee jobs and I'll do the best I can on whatever I play.
Heh.. uh.. yeah sorry for all the seriousness.. I guess it's just late and I havent had my fill of FFXI today due to finishing some anime's after work and watching a few on tv (took all evening). Other RL things are bothering me atm.. so that's kinda bringing my mood down..
..rambling. Heh..
Anyway... that's my 7 cents for the night, well, on this matter anyway. Heh.
I just saw this and all I all have to say is: Ugh, garbage.. funny.. but garbage.. >.>;
Sadly the same can be said of any stupid person playing any melee job, for the B's anyway.
Though I have to say.. ending with Guillotine (when you get it) is for the most part highly effective when making Induration, which is essentially like Distortion since all mages do on distortion is use ice spells anyway. It works, the smart drk fights the mobs which are weak against it anyway. That or bust out GS, several times I used GS simply because whatever I was fighting was not good for a scythe WS, GS proved to be more effective.
Yeah.. I know this is a joke.. but I hate it that stupid idiots give us a bad rap. Im sure every job hates that, but only a few actaully get picked on. Drg.. Smn.. Drk.. these are a few jobs that when someone sucks its quite noticable because they don't have an understanding of it. Samuria is one of them too, you have to know SC's and what's compatible with what or else that too gets flamed because some idiot is giving it a whirl.
Heck.. on the rare occasions I play Drg, I use it to have fun on and for the most part goof off, as in being playful. But i'll be damned if I do a poor job and make it look like Drg is a waste, because I really like the unique melee jobs and I'll do the best I can on whatever I play.
Heh.. uh.. yeah sorry for all the seriousness.. I guess it's just late and I havent had my fill of FFXI today due to finishing some anime's after work and watching a few on tv (took all evening). Other RL things are bothering me atm.. so that's kinda bringing my mood down..
..rambling. Heh.. Anyway... that's my 7 cents for the night, well, on this matter anyway. Heh.
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thats hilarious!
The last one got me cause i did that alot. Id have guillotine and the party would want me to use vorpal scythe to SC, and id be like....Man this sucks!! im doing crap for dmg!!
reminds me of the time i static'd with excim and friends and i had to SC with the THF and i couldnt use any hard hitting WS's and i whined till excim told me, do what i want and he will SC with the thf...as a pld. lol
The last one got me cause i did that alot. Id have guillotine and the party would want me to use vorpal scythe to SC, and id be like....Man this sucks!! im doing crap for dmg!!
reminds me of the time i static'd with excim and friends and i had to SC with the THF and i couldnt use any hard hitting WS's and i whined till excim told me, do what i want and he will SC with the thf...as a pld. lol
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It wasn't that funny... Didn't even get a chuckle out of me.
The Druw said:
DRG dot doesn't even enter the same dimension as MNK, post 50/1. Then again, I have never seen a pimped out DRG to this day, either...
In a PT I jus do as the PT asks really, they tell me to, within reason ofcourse, I am still pretty new. But if they tell me to WS, then I WS, it is only TP, and since Doublethrust n such tend to open SC, it means it is not my fault if they screw up. 
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Ecks said:I just saw this and all I all have to say is: Ugh, garbage.. funny.. but garbage.. >.>;
Sadly the same can be said of any stupid person playing any melee job, for the B's anyway.
Though I have to say.. ending with Guillotine (when you get it) is for the most part highly effective when making Induration, which is essentially like Distortion since all mages do on distortion is use ice spells anyway. It works, the smart drk fights the mobs which are weak against it anyway. That or bust out GS, several times I used GS simply because whatever I was fighting was not good for a scythe WS, GS proved to be more effective.
Yeah.. I know this is a joke.. but I hate it that stupid idiots give us a bad rap. Im sure every job hates that, but only a few actaully get picked on. Drg.. Smn.. Drk.. these are a few jobs that when someone sucks its quite noticable because they don't have an understanding of it. Samuria is one of them too, you have to know SC's and what's compatible with what or else that too gets flamed because some idiot is giving it a whirl.
Heck.. on the rare occasions I play Drg, I use it to have fun on and for the most part goof off, as in being playful. But i'll be damned if I do a poor job and make it look like Drg is a waste, because I really like the unique melee jobs and I'll do the best I can on whatever I play.
Heh.. uh.. yeah sorry for all the seriousness.. I guess it's just late and I havent had my fill of FFXI today due to finishing some anime's after work and watching a few on tv (took all evening). Other RL things are bothering me atm.. so that's kinda bringing my mood down..
Anyway... that's my 7 cents for the night, well, on this matter anyway. Heh.
i would say you right every job has there nitpickness, thing they can do that other job dont like or agree with it. <and some jeuliosy come in to play> ~.^
i cracked a smile at the last 2 pic and have seen it myself^^
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The Druw said:
Agreed, don't invite crappy DRG's and think we're all that way
I'm always looking for a new way to make the sc work, poor Buster never gets to MB though ; ;
Can't say I've run into too many DRK's that insist on doing all the dmg they can with a ws, even if it means going solo with it, but then again I don't get to party with many DRK's
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Penta Thrust and Guillatine don't even compare as far as skillchain usefulness goes.
Penta Thrust can be part of Detonation, Transfixation, Compression, or Gravitation. Those all suck. You can burst wind/light/earth/dark on those. Shitty bursts, not worth doin a SC with anyway.
Guillitine can be a part of Impaction, Compression, Induration and Fragmentation.
Fragmentation is a great Skillchain. Granted, Guillitine can't end it, but Sidewinder/slugshot/raging crash(?)/Tachi: Koki can.
Guillitine > Sidewinder does loads of damage and allows for Thunder MB.
Tachi: Jinpu > Penta Thrust makes for decent damage so does Sidewinder > Penta Thrust, but Bursting Earth/Dark sucks.
I'm glad spells don't have so many damn modifiers.
As near as I can tell, here is the Damage Calculation for Penta Thrust from lvl 40-60:
{(Base Damage of your Weapon)+(your STR-Targets VIT)+[(your STR*0.2)+(your Dex*0.2)]*0.94}
Then you multiply all that by your TP modifier. Your TP mod with Penta Thrust is 100%=0.75 200%=1.00 300%=2.25
therefore, at 300% tp, it would be
{(Base Damage of your Weapon)+(your STR-Targets VIT)+[(your STR*0.2)+(your Dex*0.2)]*0.94} * 2.25= Damage of 1 hit from a penta Thrust. If all 5 thrusts hit.... somethin is hurtin.
Some of those numbers probably cap out, such as (your STR-Targets VIT)
All those numbers make Penta Thrust a Damn good WS, but it still sucks with Skillchains.
Oh, I spent so long trying to get the numbers Right, I forgot where I was going with this, and what my point was. It's a good equation tho, so I'll just post it. If I feel like it, later I'll post the equation for Guillitine. Ya know, seeing as how this is a thread about Drk and all.
Penta Thrust can be part of Detonation, Transfixation, Compression, or Gravitation. Those all suck. You can burst wind/light/earth/dark on those. Shitty bursts, not worth doin a SC with anyway.
Guillitine can be a part of Impaction, Compression, Induration and Fragmentation.
Fragmentation is a great Skillchain. Granted, Guillitine can't end it, but Sidewinder/slugshot/raging crash(?)/Tachi: Koki can.
Guillitine > Sidewinder does loads of damage and allows for Thunder MB.
Tachi: Jinpu > Penta Thrust makes for decent damage so does Sidewinder > Penta Thrust, but Bursting Earth/Dark sucks.
I'm glad spells don't have so many damn modifiers.
As near as I can tell, here is the Damage Calculation for Penta Thrust from lvl 40-60:
{(Base Damage of your Weapon)+(your STR-Targets VIT)+[(your STR*0.2)+(your Dex*0.2)]*0.94}
Then you multiply all that by your TP modifier. Your TP mod with Penta Thrust is 100%=0.75 200%=1.00 300%=2.25
therefore, at 300% tp, it would be
{(Base Damage of your Weapon)+(your STR-Targets VIT)+[(your STR*0.2)+(your Dex*0.2)]*0.94} * 2.25= Damage of 1 hit from a penta Thrust. If all 5 thrusts hit.... somethin is hurtin.
Some of those numbers probably cap out, such as (your STR-Targets VIT)
All those numbers make Penta Thrust a Damn good WS, but it still sucks with Skillchains.
Oh, I spent so long trying to get the numbers Right, I forgot where I was going with this, and what my point was. It's a good equation tho, so I'll just post it. If I feel like it, later I'll post the equation for Guillitine. Ya know, seeing as how this is a thread about Drk and all.