Fucked at Thife Knife

[Pompidou]

I too see where he's coming from. It's not wrong, logically, I guess. It does make sense. But what if that logic were extended to other areas of the game. Thief has the best chance of getting a drop so only thieves should camp nm's. Rangers deal the most physical damage, so only Rangers should be invited as damage dealers (ok, so that actually happens). If you aren't a level 100+ crafter, you shouldn't try to synth big money goods, because a level 100+ crafter would have a better chance of getting a HQ. In summary, I don't follow the whole, if you aren't the best, don't bother, philosophy.

 

[Pompidou]

If you aren't a level 100+ crafter, you shouldn't try to synth big money goods, because a level 100+ crafter would have a better chance of getting a HQ.

I meant to add: and the rare and expensive materials to make the item would be wasted.

 

[kriist]

You think TH2 is a rumor? Wow you're bright.

BTW Sozuu's drop is like Papyrus Paper x 10.

I never said TH2 was a rumor, what I said is that it works both ways. There are rumors that TH only effect regular MoB's. There are also rumors that TH works on some NM's and not on others. I know what the Sozu drop is like, I have been camping that NM with Myihta off and on for about a year.

But if I'm not too bright, show me where it is stated that you need TH/TH2 to get a drop from any NM. But w/e this is coming from the same person that said it is ok to steal NM's but not HNM's lmao.

 

[Tomasello]

Its ok... Maseki knows the story, and I dont have issue with him, or your ls really. But yes.. some of your members did the same thing that happend here on a diff NM. Melee members went down, had 2 RDM's still up, and the mob went from red to purple just like that. I think its SE's fault really, if your PT has a mob claimed, it should not be able to go unclaimed until all members are dead.

You must be out of your mind. I wasn't there but I know the story well I heard it was ONE rdm left but ok for arguements sake lets say two. What the fuck were they gonna do about it? Your whole alliance was dead. You really think 2 rdms were gonna save the day and kill a half dead NM when the rest of you were dead? Gimme a fucking break, the two rdms should be kissing NH's feet that they saved there ass. The only thing I would have done different was let you all die then take the unclaimed NM but don't cry about it when an LS takes a mob to save what little of you are left.

 

[Ezikiel]

Its ok... Maseki knows the story, and I dont have issue with him, or your ls really. But yes.. some of your members did the same thing that happend here on a diff NM. Melee members went down, had 2 RDM's still up, and the mob went from red to purple just like that. I think its SE's fault really, if your PT has a mob claimed, it should not be able to go unclaimed until all members are dead.

You must be out of your mind. I wasn't there but I know the story well I heard it was ONE rdm left but ok for arguements sake lets say two. What the fuck were they gonna do about it? Your whole alliance was dead. You really think 2 rdms were gonna save the day and kill a half dead NM when the rest of you were dead? Gimme a fucking break, the two rdms should be kissing NH's feet that they saved there ass. The only thing I would have done different was let you all die then take the unclaimed NM but don't cry about it when an LS takes a mob to save what little of you are left.

Ok, since one of your members actually wants to bring this up.. ESPECIALLY one that was not even there....

We had 2 RDM's left. One level 71, other 62.... I was party leader and was dead. We had a whole other party waitng right there for me to get raised so I could invite them (Mistra' PT). Two words Chainspell Raise.


Secondly, who are you to decide what chance we had or did not have?
Oh, and I'm sure they stole it because they wanted to save us... had nothing to do with the NM :roll:

Now.. please take your second hand knowledge and leave.

 

[Tomasello]

The mob you were fighting can be killed with six people. IF you had a party RIGHT THERE as you claim, they were too scared or to dumb to claim it. No one was gonna chainspell raise anyone. Don't lie to prove a point.

 

[Ezikiel]

The mob you were fighting can be killed with six people. IF you had a party RIGHT THERE as you claim, they were too scared or to dumb to claim it. No one was gonna chainspell raise anyone. Don't lie to prove a point.

Since you are so smart. I'll explain in more detail for you.

There was a PT of 4 of us camping. There was an EXP party(mistra's) there leveling. They were going to help us once we got claim if we needed it. The mob spawns, we start fighting... we got him to 50% health easily when he EES'd on me, which I did not expect until later in the fight.

I was PT leader, and therefore could not invite mistras PT into Alliance. Dal dropped quickly, and bam... stolen. Our party never even saw him go yellow. We all were stunned, as I was giving out commands as to what to do. (chainspell raise).

Once again... good job on commenting on an event you had no involvement in. :wink:

 

[Tomasello]

Let me get this straight. There was a PT for 4 of you. TWO of which were rdms, a melee and you (a thf) and thought you had a chance without alliancing with the other party before. Either your arrogant or your lying. Who was kiting the NM? Maybe you were fighting it straight on and just suicidal. NH's mistake was letting any of you live. They should of let you all wipe.

 

[TiyaKelth]

they were too scared or to dumb to claim it. No one was gonna chainspell raise anyone.

I guess having the NM stolen from them before the other pt could claim it means that they were dumb. I didn't know that it was dumb to think that a pt from an LS with a pretty clean reputation wouldn't steal an NM that drops a rare/ex item that they weren't even there for in the first place.

As for the second point, why's it so hard to believe that they would chainspell raise when there were two rdm's still standing?

Finally, I hate it when people post crap in threads like this with nothing but secondhand knowledge... oh wait...

 

[Lyrai]

They screwed us out of the claim too, it was obvious that they knew when it was going to pop, since they casted whatever and moved into the little room where it popped.

It's easy to know when its gonna pop because its placeholder is on a timer like most NMs.

What I ment was they were standing directly in position to attack it. It spawned between them.

 

[Firestreak]

You seem to be making the exact same argument as GBY...

 

[Ezikiel]

Let me get this straight. There was a PT for 4 of you. TWO of which were rdms, a melee and you (a thf) and thought you had a chance without alliancing with the other party before. Either your arrogant or your lying. Who was kiting the NM? Maybe you were fighting it straight on and just suicidal. NH's mistake was letting any of you live. They should of let you all wipe.

Call me arrogant if you want... maybe I just like a challenge. It was our first time fighting him, we wanted to see how we did at first, did not know EES was gonna come at 50% health.

Once again.. the NH members were not trying to save us... they were trying to steal it... FLAT OUT. People trying to save you dont spam voke a claimed mob, and then runn off after they kill it.

I'm glad there are people like you around that know everything though.

 

[Tomasello]

I guess having the NM stolen from them before the other pt could claim it means that they were dumb.

When everyones DEAD Tiya, its over. Thats my point. When one mage is left standing you lost. I already said they should of let them all die. NH's problem was they showed mercy.

 

[Ezikiel]

I guess having the NM stolen from them before the other pt could claim it means that they were dumb.

When everyones DEAD Tiya, its over. Thats my point. When one mage is left standing you lost. I already said they should of let them all die. NH's problem was they showed mercy.

Mercy?!?! Are you fucking retarded? Are you not reading my posts?

Wait, wait... I keep forgetting...

-----YOU WERN'T THERE-----

Now GTFO :roll:

 

[Tomasello]

Let me get this straight. There was a PT for 4 of you. TWO of which were rdms, a melee and you (a thf) and thought you had a chance without alliancing with the other party before. Either your arrogant or your lying. Who was kiting the NM? Maybe you were fighting it straight on and just suicidal. NH's mistake was letting any of you live. They should of let you all wipe.

Call me arrogant if you want... maybe I just like a challenge. It was our first time fighting him, we wanted to see how we did at first, did not know EES was gonna come at 50% health.

Once again.. the NH members were not trying to save us... they were trying to steal it... FLAT OUT. People trying to save you dont spam voke a claimed mob, and then runn off after they kill it.

I'm glad there are people like you around that know everything though.

Of course NH wanted the mob. Let's not play dumb. But they had 2 choices wait till your ALL dead and take him (which is what they should of done) or take him unclaimed with one or two (whatever) ppl standing. There was no second party in the Grassy Knoll or miracle mage (lvl 62 rdm) who was gonna chainspell raise you all to victory.

 

[Ezikiel]

Of course NH wanted the mob. Let's not play dumb. But they had 2 choices wait till your ALL dead and take him (which is what they should of done) or take him unclaimed with one or two (whatever) ppl standing. There was no second party in the Grassy Knoll or miracle mage (lvl 62 rdm) who was gonna chainspell raise you all to victory.

So now you admit that they stole it?

God Damn you are stupid.
Now, lets go over this.

THF-Ezikiel
RNG - Dalkiel
RDM- Dabura
RDM- Ellessandra

Exp PT leader- Mistra

How could you have missed them all standing there?
Oh wait... I answered that in my last post.

Keep posting guy.. you're doing awesome.

 

[Tomasello]

Of course NH wanted the mob. Let's not play dumb. But they had 2 choices wait till your ALL dead and take him (which is what they should of done) or take him unclaimed with one or two (whatever) ppl standing. There was no second party in the Grassy Knoll or miracle mage (lvl 62 rdm) who was gonna chainspell raise you all to victory.

So now you admit that they stole it?

God Damn you are stupid.
Now, lets go over this.

THF-Ezikiel
RNG - Dalkiel
RDM- Dabura
RDM- Ellessandra

Exp PT leader- Mistra

How could you have missed them all standing there?
Oh wait... I answered that in my last post.

Keep posting guy.. you're doing awesome.

Taking a mob after your pt is dead is not stealing. Maybe NH should of let you wipe get raise up, unweakened and try again? Grow up. You had no tank, un-manned, and no chance. You lost your chance cause you didn't alliance beforehand cause it was your first time and were too noob to realize you couldn't win.

 

[yanzi]

Taking a mob after your pt is dead is not stealing. Maybe NH should of let you wipe get raise up, unweakened and try again? Grow up. You had no tank, un-manned, and no chance. You lost your chance cause you didn't alliance beforehand cause it was your first time and were too noob to realize you couldn't win.

you already admitted the pt wasn't dead, so... that is stealing.

 

[cohibuu]

this is stealing

notice how much the log is scrolled up. no one was dead in the alliance when NH stole MG. they stole and continued to mpk us. then read NH whm charah said in pt chat. too bad u dumbasses wiped after you stole it

 

[Tomasello]

Oh ya... the lvl 62 rdm was gonna chainspell raise them to victory. I forgot.