Funny BoL

Yea guys lets keep this thread going, everyone knows that nobody looks past the last two pages anyways... so lets fill even more pages with garbage so no one even knows what this thread was even about in the first place.

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decidence said:
We're not done yet? You obviously have no clue... also remember to include NM's, HNM's, Events, KS99's etc.... oh but I guess you would have to say that I attend them all... lol ... it really doesn't matter does it... this thread is so off topic I think its screaming CLOSE ME via the new rules of subject changing.
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What HNMs do you kill without getting gilsplit or without the ability to lot on anything you need? What KS99s have you won?
 
Nikki said:
Thats means leaders doesnt care who want whats in the shell, just want them to help?
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Nikky, first. From someone who takes light stabs at a second language your English is great. Of course its not going to be perfect though and it just depends on the mistake if it is funny or not. But your English is great for someone speaking a second language. Also, it seems like it would be harder to perfect your English when MOST NA PLAYERS type in broken english or shortened words meant for quick internet chat.

second, this sounds like the result of a miscommunication. People probably thought you were a RDM, not a NIN who came as RDM because that was the needed job at the time. Admittedly, the leads based your main off your application which was not wrong if you listed RDM first. Many people level their
second, third, fourth jobs on the side while their MAIN is at 75 so its too hard to tell without you saying so.

third, it was also a miscommunication because you were talking to different leaders who didn't know what you spoke to each one of them about. People are, just judging by this thread, confused between you wanting THAT haidate drop and asking what you needed to do in order to get in line for one at a later date. Because we can't know everything you tell 1 leader it kinda made you sound greedy like you wanted instant satisfaction. I read the whole thread though so I know that's not true.

fourth, attendence is VERY questionable when you do not even know the gender of the leader who thought you had quit and removed your access to the forum. No one said the reason for this so allow me. If someone says "good bye" or "good luck" as if they're leaving (this was also a miscommunication on your part so not Pheebe's fault) we have to assume they're going to apply for another end-game LS or already have one (to be safe). BoL's forum has sensitive information that isn't to be public knowledge or given to another LS. Understandably your access was removed and if you cleared up what you meant by "good luck" (you meant for a few days?? It's impossible to guess) your access would have been restored. I promise. But instead you got mad at the leadership when they were only doing their jobs. I would have done the same thing. But because you asked for your pearl to be broken, that was done for you. YOU WERE NOT KICKED. You only thought you were. Everyone else thought you QUIT. I wonder if your english (as great as it is for a second language) helped to create this misunderstanging.

No one wants to see you go but no one deserves to be flamed as if they are responsible for miscommunications that, imo, you caused accidentally. Pheebe and the other leaders didn't know what you were thinking. It's up to you to tell them. All they can do is react.

NIN is the only job I use in BoL and I was either out sick or working during the even where Motely got his haidate. In the end, items should belong to the LS MEANING, given to the people who help the LS as much as they can. I think it was also not mentioned that you should be able to get drops for another job as long as you dont get any drops for RDM; the other job, in effect, being your main. Sorry this post was long, but it is because it will be my only post in this thread. Take care and good luck in the game.
 
Zealot X said:
A Verry good post
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Good post. BoL should use you as a spokesperson instead of Deci. All he seems to know is how to insult people and tell them he's better for X reason.
 
Marajade said:
Good post. BoL should use you as a spokesperson instead of Deci. All he seems to know is how to insult people and tell them he's better for X reason.
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Indeed. And we are lucky to have quite a number of good members like zealot who has nice and very supportive attitude towards BOL. =)
 
Marajade said:
Good post. BoL should use you as a spokesperson instead of Deci. All he seems to know is how to insult people and tell them he's better for X reason.
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I hadn't planned to say any more but I'd be rude if I didn't say this. Thank you. If they asked me to speak I would in a heart beat because I think these unfortunate miscommunications and things can affect the shell and really isn't fair to all of the excellent players that show up to make BoL a better and better shell.

If someone wants to flame a member of BoL they should be free to do so.
However, when someone puts "BoL" in the title its like they're making all BoL members responsible. Whatever problems BoL had in the past, BoL has HUMAN players. Humans tend to make mistakes, but no human should be labeled with the mistakes of another human. That's prejudice. It is a great shell with great members and many players know this already. The applications speak for themselves. It would be prejudice if I were to call another LS bad when I don't know all its members. So ladies and gentlemen, please do me the same courtesy because by trying to tarnish the name of BoL you are hurting players who never did anything to you. And that is just as unfair (if not more) than whatever people accuse BoL of doing.

Thank you.

(paid for by the members of the Zealot X for president of the world campaign)
 
Zealot X said:
I hadn't planned to say any more but I'd be rude if I didn't say this. Thank you. If they asked me to speak I would in a heart beat because I think these unfortunate miscommunications and things can affect the shell and really isn't fair to all of the excellent players that show up to make BoL a better and better shell.

If someone wants to flame a member of BoL they should be free to do so.
However, when someone puts "BoL" in the title its like they're making all BoL members responsible. Whatever problems BoL had in the past, BoL has HUMAN players. Humans tend to make mistakes, but no human should be labeled with the mistakes of another human. That's prejudice. It is a great shell with great members and many players know this already. The applications speak for themselves. It would be prejudice if I were to call another LS bad when I don't know all its members. So ladies and gentlemen, please do me the same courtesy because by trying to tarnish the name of BoL you are hurting players who never did anything to you. And that is just as unfair (if not more) than whatever people accuse BoL of doing.

Thank you.

(paid for by the members of the Zealot X for president of the world campaign)
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A splendid, romantic, philosopher's point. Unfortunately it lacks a little something called logic and reason. The target of this flame is specifically the leaders of BoL. The way it's ran, the distribution of items, ext. This is not a case of "so and so called me a bad name." It's not an isolated incedent and it's not about any single member. And who is going to know all the members of BoL...? OH WAIT, NIKKI WHO STARTED THIS POST CAUSE SHE WAS IN BOL!
 
Firestreak said:
A splendid, romantic, philosopher's point. Unfortunately it lacks a little something called logic and reason. The target of this flame is specifically the leaders of BoL. The way it's ran, the distribution of items, ext. This is not a case of "so and so called me a bad name." It's not an isolated incedent and it's not about any single member. And who is going to know all the members of BoL...? OH WAIT, NIKKI WHO STARTED THIS POST CAUSE SHE WAS IN BOL!
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Sorry, but that is incorrect. Nikky felt that she was kicked because her access to the forums was removed. She was not mad at all BoL members, only 1 and that was the result of a miscommunication. If you doubt me you can ask Nikky yourself. She was never limited as far as gearing up her NIN. Therefore the leaders or their rules cannot possibly be blamed. Nikky was in the process of finding out the proper procedure to gear up her NIN when a misunderstanding caused Nikky to think she was not wanted. I know its hard for people to accept that BoL is innocent but that is the truth. We appreciate your concern though.
 
Nikky said:
well anyway, they kicked me after i complain about it, they said my main job is RDM and i should tell them to change my main to NIN to be able to lot NIN items.
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Note: This is basically the entire flame. Everything else becomes irrelevant once this is clear.

One of the leaders based her main job off her actual application and the fact that she always came to events as RDM. Nikky was NOT told she could not gear up NIN ever. Nikky was told to change her main to NIN or declare it for the first time. That was and will be the solution until the leaders skillup on psychic abilities. The only reason she complained was because she did not know about declaring a main which is stated by the leadership on the site. It is not their responsibility to read the contents of the site to every player personally.

And as for being kicked Nikky has to admit that she's the one who made people think she was leaving as well as being the one who actually asked for her pearl to be broken. Now correct me if I'm wrong but that is not the definition of "kicked". No? Attendence, irrelevant because she was only asking how she could get a haidate (not right at that very moment). And anyone who'd like to continue her complaint would be making the same mistake she did; not knowing the rules and therefore making an uninformed flame. I hope this answers your questions of logic and reason. Have a nice day.
 
Naw that's Decidence specific not BoL. The point I'm trying to make is I am getting a generally inconsistant message from different people, and it seems largely that you ask a member(or leader) a BoL rule, they tell you their personal opinion of what they think BoL rules should be. Hence it's no wonder people like Nikki are Bustaballs are confused, if you just assume people know what's going on with so much conflicted information.
 
Firestreak said:
Hence it's no wonder people like Nikki are Bustaballs are confused, if you just assume people know what's going on with so much conflicted information.
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What Fire no love for me, I see how it is. anyways most of them duck en hide from the questions you ask anyways.
 
Firestreak said:
Naw that's Decidence specific not BoL. The point I'm trying to make is I am getting a generally inconsistant message from different people, and it seems largely that you ask a member(or leader) a BoL rule, they tell you their personal opinion of what they think BoL rules should be. Hence it's no wonder people like Nikki are Bustaballs are confused, if you just assume people know what's going on with so much conflicted information.
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How can one know the rules when they have an attendence problem? If I had just shown up on page 25 of this thread can I assume that I know all the circumstances behind it? Better yet, could I get mad at you or someone else who posted based on page 25 alone? This is the same thing as having taking an extended vacation from a job or being absent from school or absent from an LS. You don't get a butler to deliver news from the place you left. You only find out when you get back. And instead of assuming what things took place, the logical solution would be to ask.

And what if there was some kind of invention that could take the place of constantly telling people or constantly being asked what's going on or what the rules are? Such an invention like this would be heaven sent. But who could build such a thing? Or what could we call it?

We could call it.... "forum"!
 
Zealot X said:
How can one know the rules when they have an attendence problem? You only find out when you get back. And instead of assuming what things took place, the logical solution would be to ask.
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or maybe we should just ban all rule changes and recruitment while any member is absent...

yeah...
 
Or make sure at least all leaders know the rules and have this not give misinformation when a member discusses something with them.

Note the problem with your messageboard explanations, as Nikki's MB access was removed.
 
Firestreak said:
Or make sure at least all leaders know the rules and have this not give misinformation when a member discusses something with them.
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I mean no offense when asking this question but.... Why is it of your concern? If the people that it actually affects have an issue im sure leadership would do what they can to resolve the issue. Some how this thread got all dicked around to where what everyone is arguing is item priority. That is not the OP's flame.

IMO I could give a rats ass to how OH, kaizen, ESP, etc, etc. Do thier drops. Why does everyone care so much about how BoL does thiers? The biggest question after that would be why do people insist on demanding BoL give an explanation about how we do our drops on this thread when the real issue is why did Nikki get booted from the shell? Lets get back to the point of the thread.
 
Firestreak said:
Or make sure at least all leaders know the rules and have this not give misinformation when a member discusses something with them.

Note the problem with your messageboard explanations, as Nikki's MB access was removed.
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Actually, that too was not the fault of the leaders. Nikky's english is good for it being a second language. However, that doesn't mean that it is as easy to understand as my English is. In Japan and I assume Asia in general, "good luck", is not a farewell. It simply means good luck. The English use good luck in parting ways. I don't know if Nikky knew that or not. However, everyone understood Nikky's post to mean that she was leaving the LS.

Now when someone leaves OH do you tell them ToDs on their way out? One of the leaders treated the "good luck" as a farewell and took security precautions. If the person on the other end of the precautions doesn't understand it then they should ask. The leaders don't need to ask permission to take precautions. Nikky could have easily said "Why did you remove my access? I didn't say I was quitting BoL." Instead, it was more like, "break my pearl" Like I said initially, it all resulted from miscommunication initiated by Nikky herself which she did not clear up before starting this flame.

And no, there is no problem with my message board explanation because Nikky had ample opportunity before that to read the rules and had equal opportunity to clear up the miscommunication and regain access to the forum. Let's not pretend that removal from a message board cannot be undone just as easily as it was done. Thank you for your concern, however. I don't have a problem with anyone taking an interest in BoL as long as all the facts are correct.
 
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