glitch = GM = BAD IDEA

ziphor

ziphor

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IF THE PICTURES ARE NOT SHOWING, right click on em and select "show image"
and if that doesnt work goto: http://www.geocities.com/chrient/ and those r the pics i put up

heres a lil story for everyone :x

ok so me and some peeps are lvling in valk and we jus kill a mob..so in down time im runing in the water, then i see two peeps emerge from the water like...umm....the swamp thing lol, and im like wtf?! how they get down there!? so they come out and they go back in and i do what they do and im deep under the water. so i leave my lvl party to join darenn and seferwhite 's party to explore around.

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then we're runing around laughing and stuff, looking at cool places and a hidden lagoon/beech behind selblina. so we all walk around from white bone, to siren beach (by walking under water). and we go to far and are forced outa the water, so we run back to white bone to get back in (it doesnt work on siren beach), so my old lvl party leader says "im calling a GM cuz ur disrupting the agreement to not exploit glitches".....wat a loser..

we ignore him and go back in, anyways we all seperate to find stuff under the deep blue, and i reach the end as far as u can go and i finish taking a snapshot, and then BAMB! a GM appears...i start yelling "/party SHIIT a GM came! that lil bitch told on us!!"

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and then heres the dialouge for the rest of the lil "experience":
THIS IS WORD FOR WORD (except where we all talk ie. grovel)

[GM]Rholf: Hey there
Ziphor: um…hi
[GM]Rholf: Want to tell me what you are out here
Ziphor: uhhh….fishing?
[GM]Rholf: did you not see the no swimming sign
Ziphor: im sorry
[GM]Rholf: Mmmm hmm.
Ziphor: is this against the rules?
[GM]Rholf: How did you get here?
Ziphor: i walked over here from the beach
[GM]Rholf: Of course you did
Ziphor: I got stuck in the trees and tried getting out
[GM]Rholf: hmm mm
Ziphor: and some how shimmied my way on this side
Ziphor: and then curiosity cam over me
[GM]Rholf: shimmied huh

::::::::bamb::::::::: (the GM warps me)

[back in bostak, in front of mog house]

::::::::bamb::::::::: (the GM warps me)

[then in area: Mordion Gaol (like a virtual jail)]

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[GM]Rholf: Greetings!~
[GM]Rholf: I am Game Master Rholf.
[warps in Darenn and Seferwhite]
{scared talk amongst ourselves}
{awkward silence from GM}
Ziphor: I have company can we get this done? (summarized)
[GM]Rholf: you are more then welcome to log out.
All: are we in trouble?
[GM]Rholf: that depends on weather you want to take advantage of glitches or not.
[GM]Rholf: and if you were supposed to be there in the first place you wold be able to walk right in there
{we say a few arguments about unfairness}
[GM]Rholf: and if u feel you would like to argue this issue allow me to remove your account access.
{we all grovel}
[GM]Rholf: look
[GM]Rholf: you all need to stay out of there
[GM]Rholf: first off your going to find yourselfs in here
[GM]Rholf: with your account access lost.
[GM]Rholf: secong you risk corrupting you characters.
[GM]Rholf: this will be your one time off, if you are caught using this again. You risk losing you characters.
{grovel}
[GM]Rholf: is this understood.
All: yes
[warps Seferwhite]
[warps Darenn]
[turns to me]
[GM]Rholf: now then
[GM]Rholf: you
[GM]Rholf: the fisher
Ziphor: me?
Ziphor: im sorry for my sarcasm
[GM]Rholf: heh its ok I got a laugh out of it
[GM]Rholf: show me exactly how you do this
[I show him how]
[GM]Rholf: just do not let it happen further. As not all GMs prefer giving the benefit of the doubt. ^^
 
ex·ploit: To make use of selfishly or unethically.

I dont see how you did this...i mean...its a glitch that i can jump off the airship to kazham, but i do it anyway because i like the scenery. This is a typical case of a GM whose a little high on himself but its kool that he wasnt a total punk and didnt do anything about it. But again...exploit...theres tond of glitches in any game, only some require GM attention. Second, GMs are supposed to be really eloquent in speech...none of that "Mmmmm hmm" stuff. Dont worry about it....i dunno, id contest it if anything became of this simply through the definition of exploit...all u did was run around and take some kool screens.
 
Woah, you can jump of the airship to Kazham? What's it like? Do you fall to the ground? Are you in an area you were flying over or just airship scenery stuff?
 
lol that's a good story. yeah, that GM was really cool for not doing anything but explaining why you were in the wrong (i personally didn't see a problem with it, though^^) but they way he talked was rather odd. I wouldn't expect a GM to act like that. I think he was really full of himself. And I've seen people get on to the little ledge on the airship. Can anyone tell me how this is done? I've been wanting to know for the longest time. What? Yes, I do like to take risks. What's that? Why yes, I do have a slight problem with authority 8) Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated and don't wory. I won't tell :D
 
dragoonnerzul said:
I wouldn't expect a GM to act like that. I think he was really full of himself.
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Why wouldn't you expect this? It seems like the majority of people who manage to grab themselves a little power on the internet generally end up acting kinda full of themselves.
 
Honestly, i used to be able to do it all the time, but now i cant do it for the life of me. What u used to have to do is just run straight towards the ledge at a certain area just to the left of the entrance arches on the top deck. Make sure ur running straight and not strafing to the sides....once ur positioned, stop, and then just hold run and eventually ur char will walk right over the ledge and will be standing on the side of the airship. So u get to the all the pretty scenery and land without that stupid ledge in ur way blocking your nice screens....ill post a few of mine in the scenery thread soon, ull see what its like.
 
Well, this totally reminds me of some EQ GMs before SOE did the right thing for once and fired them all. What a prick!

WTF really, removing account access is cheap scare tactics. No way they would be able to prove intent, and since there was nothing to be gained other than look around it be hard to even argue intent if your stance is that it happened by accident.

People like that make the game suck for everyone, would have been easy to say: "Listen, you had your look around, you had your fun, it's a glitch in the system, don't try my patience and just get outta here, take some screenshots before you leave and call it good."
 
i have some really great screens of the 'lookie i jumped off the airship!' stuff. How do i post those?????
 
i have some really great screens of the 'lookie i jumped off the airship!' stuff. How do i post those?????
 
Mistaya said:
i have some really great screens of the 'lookie i jumped off the airship!' stuff. How do i post those?????
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Do you have a website? That would pretty much be the only way.
 
you could jus goto geocities.com and make a free website reaaal quick, send the pics to ur email (other then POL) and put em on ur comp, then upload em to the "file manager" on the website builder, then jus pop em on this site.
 
Here's a picture from being off the airship:

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Technically, it's not an exploit, it's just a glitch. An exploit is using the ship on the beach to solo pugs as a BLM at 13
 
There's an AI problem with mobs and the beached ship where they will go all the way around the shp rather than over it, or the short way around it to get to you. I highly recommned not doing it. A) if you mess up it's a qucik death. b) if a GM catches you, they will hit you for using an exploit.
 
LOL, but in their players guide they say "use the environment to ur advantage, go some place where the enemy must work its way to u"
 
Hehe.. Yeah.. that is true, i do remember reading that in the strategy guide. So Hah!.
 
I was told by a GM that the "Official" strategy guide means nothing to them, but not in those words. They are informed by the Development team and Testing teams what is correct and what isnt. So just because the book says one thing doesnt mean it is right.....Of course the GM's wont tell you what is right so we are all left on our own to find out.
 
ziphor said:
LOL, but in their players guide they say "use the environment to ur advantage, go some place where the enemy must work its way to u"
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Yes it does say this, but I think what you get out of it from "reading between the lines" is not exactly what they had intended either.
In almost 400 pages of details they never mention exploiting glitches.

That said, I have never actually met a GM yet, but haven't really heard of one that wasn't a cocky S.O.B. either. Not looking forward to meeting one.
 
Loslego said:
Woah, you can jump of the airship to Kazham? What's it like? Do you fall to the ground? Are you in an area you were flying over or just airship scenery stuff?
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Not to shatter your illusions, but Airships and the Ferry don't actually move, they are static. The world moves to create the illusion of movement.
 
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