GMs = useless...

[Elemmire]

there's a difference between camping a NM that drops an item you can buy, and then one that drops a rare/ex item that would improve your job greatly. and even if I chose to steal KB at the time and let it beat them up, it would have come back at me and killed me once they were dead, then my LS would have left me there except the few that would have been for it. It's hard to take on these things when you don't have the right jobs/numbers to do them

 

[Falsey]

using their tactics are morally wrong though...that's the problem most in the LS seem to have.. and then those that don't have a problem cause they know if they did use em they'd not have the numbers to back the fight up anyways.

Ok, so you're just going to complain and whine and feel bad about this? Thats fine, its a flameboard, but don't carry on with your excuses as to why you can't make things better.

STFU and do something about it. I mean seriously, there are a number of things that have been said here to counter your complaint, but you're just making up excuses at this point.

Elle, if this is the way its gonna be, with this NM or w/e, and you see this shit happening, and you don't want to do anything about it but whine, and it pisses you off this much, then do yourself a favor and stop camping the NM if you're not going to take handle of the situation and do what you need to do to get this shit taken care of.

Only problem with that Pannda, is that people will blame Ele for everything that she did, weather we agree with it or not.

 

[CubsWoo]

there's a difference between camping a NM that drops an item you can buy, and then one that drops a rare/ex item that would improve your job greatly. and even if I chose to steal KB at the time and let it beat them up, it would have come back at me and killed me once they were dead, then my LS would have left me there except the few that would have been for it. It's hard to take on these things when you don't have the right jobs/numbers to do them

I have a very strong feeling there will be NA LS's popping up that will have no problem doing what your LS and their 'code of honor' forbids.

 

[CubsWoo]

Lightning addon: And they will be the ones who get remembered, for better or worse.

internet penis++

 

[Panda]

I'm not saying that she needs to do it. I'm saying that she EITHER needs to do it or go find something else to do.

 

[Odon]

there's a difference between camping a NM that drops an item you can buy, and then one that drops a rare/ex item that would improve your job greatly. and even if I chose to steal KB at the time and let it beat them up, it would have come back at me and killed me once they were dead, then my LS would have left me there except the few that would have been for it. It's hard to take on these things when you don't have the right jobs/numbers to do them

I have a very strong feeling there will be NA LS's popping up that will have no problem doing what your LS and their 'code of honor' forbids.

Honstely I have no problem with it, I'd steal it with them in a second, but then i'd be left high and dry by the other members

 

[CubsWoo]

Then, like I said, find members that won't leave you high and dry because of honor or fear or whatever.

 

[Elemmire]

let's not forget the great community that will then just start calling people "stealers" and "mpkers" and think you'll do it no matter what whenever you camp a monster of some sorts. people who seem to be saying I shoulda stolen are same people that said DrgAsh was wrong for stealing Aspid from Lucifar even though Lucifar is by far the biggest anti-NA asshole on our server -_-

 

[Panda]

let's not forget the great community that will then just start calling people "stealers" and "mpkers" and think you'll do it no matter what whenever you camp a monster of some sorts. people who seem to be saying I shoulda stolen are same people that said DrgAsh was wrong for stealing Aspid from Lucifar even though Lucifar is by far the biggest anti-NA asshole on our server -_-

Since when do you care what other people think of you.

You really don't have the best rep as it is from what I read on the flame thread about you, so I don't think you have anything to lose at this point.

 

[Firestreak]

Apparently you Pannda can't post anymore useless information anymore to try to stir up shit, and as proven don't really care about what people think about you either? All you do is whine, and then whine about whining. When backed into a corner, you take the "oh well I was drunk, and it's just online I don't give a shit what people think of me" defense. You're just one step being being a total board troll. Fucking loser.
Why don't you respond to me with your patented homophobic cum guzzling insults? It really shows how much of a mature parent you are.

 

[Elemmire]

granted I don't care what people think about me. But the LS I'm in.. that's a different matter. And a lot of the shit said about me on the flameboard was utter bullshit that I chose to ignore because then that flame would have gone on for pages and pages and neither side would've really come to any agreement or any solution. Regardless.. I don't want the LS that I'm a part of seen as Stealers and MPKers when we are not at all and frown upon it other than toward gilsellers... it's stupid cause then the LS I'm a part of gets harassed by ignorant fools listening to bullshit rumors. Why do you think people, including myself, saw Ascension as having done so many wrong things? we were being ignorant.. and while there are people in every LS, including Ascension, that are arrogant and selfish and whatnot... Nasya does a damn good job at keeping her LS under control and working well together. So while I don't care what people think about me personally.. thinking bullshit about my LS is another matter.

 

[Falsey]

Apparently you Pannda can't post anymore useless information anymore to try to stir up shit, and as proven don't really care about what people think about you either? All you do is whine, and then whine about whining. When backed into a corner, you take the "oh well I was drunk, and it's just online I don't give a shit what people think of me" defense. You're just one step being being a total board troll. Fucking loser.
Why don't you respond to me with your patented homophobic cum guzzling insults? It really shows how much of a mature parent you are.

I dont know why you came here to attack Pannda, make a thread and attack her there.

On Topic: I know how the JP preach honor this and honor that, but again I agree with Cubs. They preach it, then break all their own BS. This game isnt about taking sides, or is it?

There needs to be an LS that "punishes" the cheaters, weather they are JP or NA or EU, no matter. We all know the GMs dont give a shit about any of us, and unless, as suggested before by me, we all boycott for 2-3 months, nothing will change.

In all honesty, it is we, the common player, who has the power, we just wont use it. So c'mon you Rosa Parks, lead us to FF glory and be the 1st to sit on the bus! (not pay for FF for a few months)

 

[Sneakypants]

Apparently you Pannda can't post anymore useless information anymore to try to stir up shit, and as proven don't really care about what people think about you either? All you do is whine, and then whine about whining. When backed into a corner, you take the "oh well I was drunk, and it's just online I don't give a shit what people think of me" defense. You're just one step being being a total board troll. Fucking loser.
Why don't you respond to me with your patented homophobic cum guzzling insults? It really shows how much of a mature parent you are.

What Pannda said wasn't exactly necessary, but it wasn't exactly wrong either.

If we're gonna B&M, I vote we start with looking in the mirror.

 

[Panda]

I dont know why you came here to attack Pannda, make a thread and attack her there.

Way to highjack another thread, ass clown. (firestreak, not falsey)

go make another thread dude, lets duke it out.

I'm flattered that you took the time out of your day to insult me though. Thats so sweet of you. :wink:
I smell love!

 

[Elemmire]

In all honesty, it is we, the common player, who has the power, we just wont use it. So c'mon you Rosa Parks, lead us to FF glory and be the 1st to sit on the bus! (not pay for FF for a few months)

but I need my fix T.T hah! not really but.. even if one person did quit because they got sick of the bullshit and wanted things to change (actually more than one have left for those reasons x.x) others won't follow until they personally get sick to the point that they quit... so S-E will continue to get money.. and ya.. they won't care...

 

[Falsey]

In all honesty, it is we, the common player, who has the power, we just wont use it. So c'mon you Rosa Parks, lead us to FF glory and be the 1st to sit on the bus! (not pay for FF for a few months)

but I need my fix T.T hah! not really but.. even if one person did quit because they got sick of the bullshit and wanted things to change (actually more than one have left for those reasons x.x) others won't follow until they personally get sick to the point that they quit... so S-E will continue to get money.. and ya.. they won't care...

Heh, thats why I quit. I know of others aswell.

You either take a stand, or you complain about it for the rest of the time you play the game. (not directed at you Ele, just in general)

 

[Firestreak]

Pannda was making useless comments that were intended to rile people up. Those comments were less true than what I say, and just as unneeded. Ele was having a fairly decent conversation and it was interesting to read, and Pannda was making no addition except throwing eggs and trying to pick on a board member for no reason other than she feels she's unpopular and an easy target. END OF STORY. I simply felt it would be better to take her down a notch than to let everyone who's viewed as by some board members as unpopular get picked on for no reason at all except they are an easy target. You all know what direction that will lead us in.

 

[Panda]

granted I don't care what people think about me. But the LS I'm in.. that's a different matter. And a lot of the shit said about me on the flameboard was utter bullshit that I chose to ignore because then that flame would have gone on for pages and pages and neither side would've really come to any agreement or any solution. Regardless.. I don't want the LS that I'm a part of seen as Stealers and MPKers when we are not at all and frown upon it other than toward gilsellers... it's stupid cause then the LS I'm a part of gets harassed by ignorant fools listening to bullshit rumors. Why do you think people, including myself, saw Ascension as having done so many wrong things? we were being ignorant.. and while there are people in every LS, including Ascension, that are arrogant and selfish and whatnot... Nasya does a damn good job at keeping her LS under control and working well together. So while I don't care what people think about me personally.. thinking bullshit about my LS is another matter.

I guess what I'm trying to say Elle is that if this bothers you so much you really have to either give up on behemoth (because this shit isnt going to stop, and you know that) or go in cohorts with another linkshell that will take these fuckers out. Theres obviously players in the game that will do that, so why don't you get together with them instead of bringin ascension or w/e into it, or talk to your other ls members about if they're interested or not.

I mean it would be one thing if you were calling out for help with taking them out or asking people to step up to do it..

but you're just bitching. and bitching is cool, so long as it isnt followed by millions of excuses why you can't do anything about it. Bitching sometimes should lead to some kind of resolution, and the only resolution to this issue is A. stop camping it or B. get shit together to take them out.

 

[Elemmire]

well... I felt like bitching about it at the time.. and letting others that didn't know about what the JP do to now know that they do it. I'm not gonna give up on King Behemoth that easily. I want those rare/ex items for the members in my LS. It'd be nice to see the PLDs with defending rings (by the way that was a drop today which rooi got... the rich bastard) and all RDM with Crimson Masks (unless they get AF2 XD) and all PLD with Koenig or Kaiser. I'm also not gonna give up on any other HNM that would benefit the LS members. But ya.. we are getting sick of their cheap shit and I am very tempted to getting a packet sniffer.

 

[Panda]

Pannda was making no addition except throwing eggs and trying to pick on a board member for no reason other than she feels she's unpopular and an easy target.

Dude, lol, did you even read what I wrote?

Just because I didn't sugar coat it doesn't mean that I didn't say anything important to the conversation. I'm not picking on elle, I'm telling her what I think about the situation.

Don't worry fire, You're the only person on this board that i really would pick on in that matter. Ellemirre won't take the "Pannda's Bitch" status away from you.