Good for MNK?

If you ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NEED 9 Accuracy, yes.

Otherwise, Destroyers still fucks them up.

They are great for solo, though.
 
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It's for nin tanking.
 
They're good for solo, that's it.

Khajit said:
It's for nin tanking.
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Not really, since with hand to hand equipped, you can't parry at all.
 
cheap alternative relic lol
good for solo
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Bajaratt said:
They're good for solo, that's it.


Not really, since with hand to hand equipped, you can't parry at all.
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emnity+9 has got to do something to your hate levels. even as a swap in for stun/voke. That being said it's only for situations where earth staff isnt needed but katana are out of the question.
 
Very good for NIN/DRK tanking, about as good as an item you can fit in the slot really. Terra's Staff is nice cause it can save you in a tight spot, but most of the fight where you'd be NIN/DRK its not really an issue. You'd gain more from the 9 emnity normally than from the 20% physical damage taken.
 
MNK/NIN tank? >.<
 
Bajaratt said:
They're good for solo, that's it.


Not really, since with hand to hand equipped, you can't parry at all.
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No, Khajit was right.
You're not egaged in combat in the one fight I'd use them anyway, so can't parry to begin with.


As for mnk-usefulness, solo onry.
Or if you run out of tanks/need a mnk tank. LBC, Yovra's and whatnot.
 
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in case anyone was wondering, LBC = Long Bowed Chariot, salvage boss. Regardless, the +9 subtle blow is what catches my eye.
 
Isomiau said:
Regardless, the +9 subtle blow is what catches my eye.
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Which is really the only reason why it's good for solo. In a party, especially a cannon, -9% TP given to the mob from you isn't going to noticably delay TP moves. But when you're alone, it most certainly will.

Unless you're a really hardcore soloer, they aren't worth the price tag for Monk. Puppetmaster, on the otherhand, it is.
 
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Obviously using them in cannons would be silli; people still party? i'd use em to tank, specifically anything in salvage, and i'm sure they're pretty spiffy for a few hnms or more so other small group nm's.
 
Hades Sainti is pretty much useless for all jobs but NIN. I even said that to him when he were shouting catchy phrases in Aht Urhgan.

I still think Destroyers are better for MNK, even when tanking Salvage bosses. It increases your damage, thus killing him faster. Sure, the Enmity +9 gives you more total enmity, but on Long-Armed Chariot, your hate is reset during charm. On Long-Bowed Chariot, your hate is reset after Homing Missiles, unless you've weakened it. And in that case, he's easy anyway and should be tanked in Destroyers to speed up kill time.

Same applies to all bosses really. Its more beneficial for your WHMes and group as a whole if you kill it faster. If you hold hate fine against the others in the group, you generally don't need more enmity then you've got. Sure, it could possibly help the BLMes to nuke more, but are they really worth the price tag when Destroyers do the job just fine (which are free, btw)?

They're the best H2H weapons for PUP, but I'd say MNK's have better and cheaper choices.
 
Uzor said:
Hades Sainti is pretty much useless for all jobs but NIN. I even said that to him when he were shouting catchy phrases in Aht Urhgan.

I still think Destroyers are better for MNK, even when tanking Salvage bosses. It increases your damage, thus killing him faster. Sure, the Enmity +9 gives you more total enmity, but on Long-Armed Chariot, your hate is reset during charm. On Long-Bowed Chariot, your hate is reset after Homing Missiles, unless you've weakened it. And in that case, he's easy anyway and should be tanked in Destroyers to speed up kill time.

Same applies to all bosses really. Its more beneficial for your WHMes and group as a whole if you kill it faster. If you hold hate fine against the others in the group, you generally don't need more enmity then you've got. Sure, it could possibly help the BLMes to nuke more, but are they really worth the price tag when Destroyers do the job just fine (which are free, btw)?

They're the best H2H weapons for PUP, but I'd say MNK's have better and cheaper choices.
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You and I discussed this during the last run, I think we agreed that having one MNK with it is probably a good idea on Salvage bosses. More than that isn't worth it. That early hate would have been so clutch on Saturday lol.

Besides, since (at least in Silver Sea) we're switching weapons a lot, there is ample opportunity to change them out. HQ is probably excessive, but NQ I'd like to have Iso or Limi try out.
 
Considering the salvage boss have high eva I think the +7 acc makes it worth. And yes they are the best wpn for pup and it would be the case even if pup could equip destroyers because when you gear up you pup you seek accuracy wherever you can. Oh and NQ is very expensive already.

Kirlua said:
MNK/NIN tank? >.<
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Is there such a think as monk not tanking ? I'm 65 mnk and the nin is only here for me to recast shadows ..
 
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