Good Riddance, MJ

Mirewen said:
Making fun of someone for a disease. Awesome. What's next?
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OMG! A joke in a thread for making fun of someone! How dare he?!? What nerve!

For real though, he could have died himself green and I wouldn't have cared. His plastic surgery and skin bleaching/vitiligo (depending on who's side you take) is just another form of body modification. No different than Tattos, piercing, scarification, branding, etc. Doesn't seem strange to me at all really when compared to things like lizard man or cat man.

If he want's to look like joan rivers, more power to him. If he wants to get little kids drunk for any reason at all (which he admitted doing for all yall hatin on me), he's a (smooth?) criminal. For hijacking the beatles catalog out from underneath Paul so he could sell them to commercials, he should be shot, stabbed, hung, burned, quartered, then shot again.
 
Dancingweapon said:
In all fairness, if I was THAT rich I would pay them off even if I was innocent. I mean, with that much money would you really be bothered? I know I would just think "fuck it, give em some money, I'm going to bed."
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That's what he tried the first time. Doing so backfired on him since paying raised the question of why he paid them off if he was innocent. To boot there was a non disclosure agreement so if he was guilty they couldn't say so. if he was innocent and they admitted it they could be sued for extortion and breaking the NDA so they could never admit to him being innocent.
Because of that MJ went to trial the second time because your solution just doesn't work and would in fact make things worse for him.
 
Trippyhippy said:
I know if I was innocent, I would rot in jail for 100 years before I gave those people one red cent.
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I think that would be pretty stupid and i would bet money you would not go through with that.

If he had the money to make it go away sooner, he should.

Also, Michaels health was very poor at the time and although he planned to go on with the trial many people close to him urged that he pay them off because they didnt think he could withstand a healthy trial. While im not syaing hes guilty or innocent, i really dont care.

One thing is for sure, if my son was raped, any amount of money wouldnt satisfy me. Also the kids father was quoted as saying things like "Im gonna destroy his career" or "Im gonna be made after this" and shit like that, and the mother was completely against him. Still it doesnt prove one way or another but i think its pretty ignorant to side one way or the other fully without a doubt.

I dont think any of us should say, in no way did he do any of that shit, nor should we say hes a sick pedophile who raped kids. We have no proof either way.
 
Linhjah said:
This thread was created so people can do just that without offending those who want to mourn his passing. Everyone who has negative sentiments about him has done a good job keeping it here after the threads were split.

If you don't want to hear the too-soon or poor taste jokes and pot shots, I'd recommend not reading this thread, because that is what its for.

(You do have that other thread about MJ that someone cleaned up just so people with feelings like yours can be left in peace, you know... :) )
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My comment had nothing to do with MJ. It was about making fun of a disease. Kinda like there was a thread in SF about making fun of people with mental disabilities. Make fun of MJ if you want, but diseases aren't funny.
 
Mirewen said:
My comment had nothing to do with MJ. It was about making fun of a disease. Kinda like there was a thread in SF about making fun of people with mental disabilities. Make fun of MJ if you want, but diseases aren't funny.
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I agree some things should be off limits, but "don't make fun of someone because they had (insert thing(s) they couldn't control) because (thing(s) they couldn't control) aren't funny" is just stupid. Its not like anyone is making fun of cancer.
 
Trippyhippy said:
That is a matter of opinion.

I think diseases can be situationally funny. Like if a guy rapes someone and gets AIDS from it, tobacco CEO getting cancer, that sort of thing. It's funny when it happens to someone who deserves it.
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You're talking about diseases of irony. If MJ actually did molest kids, how is a skin whitening disease ironic?

And cancer or not, a disease is a disease. That's like saying bipolar people can be picked on, but stay away from the schizo's, that's SERIOUS BIZNIS.
 
Sapper said:
OK what exactly did MJ do for humanity other than make money off of it? I mean yes the man was an icon for music but I am not going to mourn him one sec because I never seen where he ever helped anyone, he seemed too involved in his own BS
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Whether for the sake of publicity or genuine compassion, MJ gave millions upon millions to charities over the course of his career.
 
Mirewen said:
And no TG, Schizophrenia is much worse than being Bipolar medically speaking.
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It was one of the few instances where I was actively trolling you :P
 
Makelith said:
Its not like anyone is making fun of cancer.
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Spoiler:
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"Cancer? More like Can'tcer, cause there's nothing we can do about it!"


If you're easily offended, don't click the spoiler.
 
Trippyhippy said:
For hijacking the beatles catalog out from underneath Paul so he could sell them to commercials, he should be shot, stabbed, hung, burned, quartered, then shot again.
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Well we will find out soon what will happen with the 270 ish songs. Supposedly they are in his will and may go to Sir Paul. I wish they would say how much Paul did bid on those songs before he gave up.

Edit: There will probably a big legal battle soon on all of Michael's stuff though.
 
I'm just hoping they don't sell them off to just anyone to cover the massive debt MJ left behind. Paul deserves to have the rights to those songs.
 
I am willing to bet its not as big as people think it is. Also, the 4000+songs that he does have publisher rights on are supposedly worth over 1 billion.
 
Sapper said:
OK what exactly did MJ do for humanity other than make money off of it? I mean yes the man was an icon for music but I am not going to mourn him one sec because I never seen where he ever helped anyone, he seemed too involved in his own BS
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AIDS Project L.A.

American Cancer Society

Angel Food

Big Brothers of Greater Los Angeles

BMI Foundation, Inc.

Brotherhood Crusade

Brothman Burn Center

Camp Ronald McDonald

Childhelp U.S.A.

Children's Institute International

Cities and Schools Scholarship Fund

Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation

Congressional Black Caucus (CBC)

Dakar Foundation

Dreamstreet Kids

Dreams Come True Charity

Elizabeth Taylor Aids Foundation

Juvenile Diabetes Foundation

Love Match

Make-A-Wish Foundation

Minority Aids Project

Motown Museum

NAACP

National Rainbow Coalition

Rotary Club of Australia

Society of Singers

Starlight Foundation

The Carter Center's Atlanta Project

The Sickle Cell Research Foundation

Transafrica

United Negro College Fund (UNCF)

United Negro College Fund Ladder's of Hope

Volunteers of America

Watts Summer Festival

Wish Granting

YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw

These are issues that MJ gave time and/or money to. He wasn't like a lot of celebrities that only give time and/or lip service to issues that they themselves have or their family members have. No offence Montel or Michael J Fox because I <3 you.

Shouldn't be surprised that people think he was all about himself. They only care about the dirt on people, not the kindness, because dirt sells papers.
 
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Mirewen said:
Stuff that Michael Jackson contributed to.
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Not to mention a minor cause in the early 1980s that didn't get much press called USA for Africa.

Yeah, that Jacko was really up on himself.

Jokes aside, the dude was comparable to Bono and Bill/Melinda Gates when it comes to the power of saving the world.
 
"Go make a new thread and praise him all you want there!!" .... oo WAIT, there is one. Funny how everyone pushing to have the thread split is still comming into this one and praising him and it be ok, but when we went in that thread and bashed him, we were assholes. Double standards much? Recombine and let the haters be haters and the praisers be praisers.
If your son was raped, wouldn't you say. "I'm going to make sure that son-of-a-bitch pays!"? aka "I'm going to end his carrer." Yes, I'll admit that the parents were dumb for letting their children sspend the night with Michael Jackson, it was a disaster waiting to unfold. At the same time, it was dumb for Michael to allow the 2nd child to spend the night, AFTER the alligation. I mean... you don't open yourself for more riddicule. Maybe the mother didn't want her childs rape to be public, I mean, can you imagine the damage that was done and to always be known as the boy who was raped by Michael Jackson. It'll be torture his entire life, something he can never escape and maybe his mother was just trying to avoid it.
Stealing the Beatles songs just shows what kind of man Michael was. A worthless piece of shit. Too back stab a friend for benefits is unjust. I mean, can't you sell your songs to companys for commercials? Oo wait, your songs weren't really all that great, just had their moment in the light for a week, then forgotten about until you die.
Sure he helped all those organizations, but could it be because he felt bad about raping little boys? Maybe he did it to put the coverage off the bad and show some 'good' in him? But then again... he put all this money, yet he died in debt... so, he gave illegit money to good causes? since you know he didn't seem to have as much money as we thought he did.
To end this, a MJ classic:

Billie Jean is my lover.
He's just a boy.
A boy barely age 10,
He's drunk and in my bed.
Eeee Heee
 
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