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Veresko

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First part of this post should be in good times, second part is the flame towards Gowron.

So, last night the Dunes made me eat my words. I was in an amazing party that allowed me to go from 200 exp into level 14 to halfway through level 17 in little under 4 hours. The party setup was 2 rng (one being me), whm (new player, no sub, but he was good), pld, smn and thf. Oh and no, we did not have a PL (except for the last 30 minutes). We litteraly had no downtime for 4 hours and I can tell you, I was tired at the end of the night from pulling non stop. What we did was simple, 2 snpiers to build TP then a fly rinse and repeat. When we hit 15, the whm could even rest while we killed the crab so we could keep the chain going.

So to all my party mates from last night, thanks and congrats, you guys rocked!

Now..... this chaining did not start from the beginning... at first we were really having problems even getting to chain 2.... not for the lack of capacity, but for the lack of mobs (snipers). Everytime I saw one pop on WS, I would run to it only to see Gowron (46 rdm) soloing them. And there were probably 4 parties there on the beach so all the pullers would converge to the rare snipers and it became more a NM hunting then exp party.

Needless to say I was getting a little furstrated, as were the other pullers making /fume emotes. So at one point, I spot a crab north of the camp that just pops and I run to it, but whm was afk, so I have to wait, right by the sniper. almost as I get there, Gowron comes and pulls it with a spell from me.... :evil: I know, the sniper was not claimed and everyone has a rigth to it, so if it would have been another puller, I would grin to myself but let it go. But since this guy has been killing them all for close to an hour now, I walk to him and slap/moon him....

I get a tell saying that's what happens when you stand next to it for 5 minutes (which was 30 sec...). I answer saying it's not that, you've been killing crabs for an hour, every party here is pissed at you, go farm somwhere else for god's sake!!! He then tells me he is leveling archery!!!!! :shock: WTF!!!!! When I want to level a weapon at 48 DRK, I pick on brutal sheeps here or evil weapons in Qufim, no one exp of them and they will be glad you clear things. At the very worst, stand by Selbina and kill the gob trains!

So I tell him that.... he answered that crabs have best defense and they last longer, making it easier for him to level archery!! Again, I answer that people are trying to level here. Gowron: So am I! OMG he's an official moron now. I tell him: no you are not, you are trying to level a skill that you could do ANYWHERE but here and being a moron for ruining it for 25 people that walked 30 minutes to get here because they can't use choc or regional teles!!!!!

And I had /blist..... MPK is what I get for an answer. So I immediately place a call to GM, cause I'm pretty sure he would do it, hoping I would be talking to the GM when he actually attemps... what was I thinking, 16 call in line... lol

Sure enough, 5 minutes later, Gowron comes with 6-7 gobs on his ass and warpped right in the middle of us. I had previously warend the party so we all run away and live, but I see the gobs aggro the party next to us and I guess 1-2 died. :evil:

So GOWRON!!! You're an ass, you are the worst kind of stupid player I can think of (except gil sellers). Not only did you prevent 4 parties from gaining any exp, but you also tried to outdo yourself by trying to take away exp from those people (wich you failed miserably, can't even do that right).

I know we've had our disagreements here about farming in exp places, but leveling a skill, that can be done on ANY mobs ANYWHERE! Go to Carpenter's landing, there's never anyone there for crying out loud, and you can walk right into town from it!!!!!


...... FUCK YOU GOWRON!
 
Yes, I've noticed that as a problem spot. What's worst is on the west beach VE campers will sometimes just wipe the whole beach out of boredom. What really ticked me off was when I was lvling RNG there was a lvl 30 PLD killing lizzies by the friggin konschat zone. There were at least 6 parties, and even without him it would have been difficult, but he could just stand right in the middle of the spawn and voke the second they popped. I told myself I was gonna farm off mandies next time he's in yhoater. Gotta get them 4 leafs mandies. PLD was named Keryn or something... can't remember exactly.
 
So did the gm actually do anything?


I had a similar problem in the crawlers nest this weekend. We were xping up top because we were still low lvl for the nest and some jerk was farming crawlers. WTF? He saw us there too >.<
 
Well, I can understand campers killing the flies to make the Emp spawn, since I understand he is a lottery spawn (have'nt seriously camped him yet). It still sucks if you are exping in that zone, but it his somehow understandeable.

But to kill an exp mob (for lack of other terms) to level a skill, this is just stupid. Plus, at 46, you probably will stop getting any skillups around 70 and will still have to move to harder mobs. Gowron was probably to stupid to realize that and kept chaing snipers hoping to see that 0,1 increase.

As I mentionned, one can eaily level a skill on any mobs! I level swords just last week-end off sheeps in the dunes from 35 to 65 in 30 minutes! I even helped with trains and a few people to get magicked skulls. Then I leveled from 65 to 85 in Qufim killing Banshees, evil weapons and wights and that took me.... 30 minutes again. And I got much thanks and bowing from people there for making there life easier, not ruining there exp!!!!!! Don't go for the exp mob damn it!!!
 
Hmm I'd just like to point out that it's kind of funny that people consider it rude to skillup/farm exp mobs in dunes but not in lower level solo areas. Like if I'm a level 5 gong after a crawler with my sword drawn out and some farmer runs up and vokes it. Or just creates a huge train and MPKs you if you try to steal it. Hmm... Going off topic here maybe?

But yea.. for skillup right around Jeuno you can get to lvl 100 easily. For the first levels I like the lizzies outside Kazham. There are some mobs that seem to be better built for exp, and some that are there for money. They are clearly seperated to not motivate people from killing the exp mobs that lower levels need. Yet some people are just idiots as well as rude.
 
Actually Veresko they wipe out everything sometimes. Snippers. Pugils. Gpblins included.

I also have camped VE and I'm not at all convinced killing flies increases his pop rate. He seems to just pop when he pops.
 
Summerbreeze said:
So did the gm actually do anything?

Probably not..... :( I got the usual We will investigate this further and thank you for using the GM calling center and can I help you with anything else today?

I told him to look at the log since Gowron's aswer of MPK was there and my party's reaction when it happened was also there, as well as my call to GM but I doubt he will get anything but a slap on the wrist, unless he has done this before.
 
Firestreak said:
Actually Veresko they wipe out everything sometimes. Snippers. Pugils. Gpblins included.

I also have camped VE and I'm not at all convinced killing flies increases his pop rate. He seems to just pop when he pops.

Oh, well that's just wrong then! And I can't really comment on VE, as I said, I have'nt camped him yet (but will have to soon, with nin leveling :( )
 
Hehe I got pissed last night after missing an Emp spawn so i popped a sniper with Slug Shot before logging. Oops, But thats lame on the RDM's part, seriously, you're better off subbing thf and fighting the gobs on the wasy to the secret beach near that earth ele spawn. Steal a silver coin every 5 min and get skill ups, that way more efficient and theres enough mobs that it wont matter if you kill them fast. Also those gobs are high levels than crabs so they last a biut longer for skilling up.

Go /slap stalking that ass. I hate soo many rdms. But it makes me adore the ones like like i guess.
 
Firestreak said:
Hmm I'd just like to point out that it's kind of funny that people consider it rude to skillup/farm exp mobs in dunes but not in lower level solo areas. Like if I'm a level 5 gong after a crawler with my sword drawn out and some farmer runs up and vokes it. Or just creates a huge train and MPKs you if you try to steal it. Hmm... Going off topic here maybe?

:lol: Well, I did make a topic about that not too long ago and got flamed for it lol Maybe that's what you are refering to! Eddiemush was train farming sheeps and bees on the hill in South Gustaberg, leaving nothing for people there to exp of, except gobs and worms (I was leveling BST at the time). I stole a sheep from his train and he tried to mpk me for it with gobs (missed again, I am the king at evading mpk lol)
 
What an asshole.
His theory of fighting crabs to raise archery is fine and dandy, but he should have stopped upon request.
 
Goes to show that you cannot teach someone class. Spread the good Karma and level off mobs that people need out of the way. But then again, if he/she could not think of this on their own, your words are probably pearls to swine.. :roll:

~Crook
 
Sneakypants said:
What an asshole.
His theory of fighting crabs to raise archery is fine and dandy, but he should have stopped upon request.

:shock:

Sneak, are you kidding me???????? Where have you been the past 6 months????? Everybody knows that good manners dictates you should always MPK someone that tells you something you don't want to hear!!! :wink:


I mean, that's just common sense...... :twisted:
 
Jeez,

There is little to no excuse for MPK'ing.
Gowron is a true asshole I guess, I will be keeping away from him.

I think he posted his pic on FFXIplayers .......................................
 
Firestreak said:
Actually Veresko they wipe out everything sometimes. Snippers. Pugils. Gpblins included.

I also have camped VE and I'm not at all convinced killing flies increases his pop rate. He seems to just pop when he pops.

off topic. A lottery spawn does exactly that. Spawn when it wants to. But it only spawns in the place of the placeholder. So while killing flies wont speed up his pop, but they will increase the chances of him coming as he can only pop in the place of another fly.
 
and on topic:

well he was/is in my old LS. He seemed just fine as long as I knew him. But yeah what he did was be an asshole >.>
 
In reply to Tyrath:

Lottery is lottery: every time a place holder is scheduled to spawn, there is a a lottery with a preset probability set deciding is its a PH or NM pop. Now about NMs is firstly, most mobs have a spawn time of 5 or 12 minutes, you kill one anmd another will respawn and get this lottery after that amount of time has elapsed. So if you stand around waiting for a lottery nm and no placeholders get killed, it will in fact never spawn ( idk about mobs if they disappear and repop after a time but im sure this is way slower than actually killing them). So statistically if you increase the number of lottery event per amount of time, you chances of getting a lottery event go your way in that amount of time increases.

Its all about statistics here, ultimately the time it rtakes to pop is random, but it will only pop during a placeeholder pop.
 
Empy's pops though don't appear to be quite where the regular flies are. I am not convinced he has placeholders. He might hist spawn on his own. This is in my somewhat limited time camping him compared to some other NMs. If any hardcore VE camper would like to challenge this, ok. But the mysterytour information about him was all wrong. Hell I've seen him pop in as little as an hour after kill.
 
What a prick...I mean there are so many crabs in Vanny and he had to pick the ones in the Dunes to level off of? Come on... :roll:
 
I partied with Gowron, and he is the shittiest RDM.
The Whm and myself(Pld) hat to tell him 2-3 times to cast refresh before he would. was yelling at him for refresh. It was like he couldn't be bothered. Dumbass
 
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