Grndmstr Steal AF2 From LolDynamis

[jyakotsu]

Something like this.
Like I said, from a purely technical point of view, he did the work the LS required of him to get relic. In that regard, he has earned it. This is an opportunity that shouldn't honestly exist though, especially considering the fact that he still doesn't get that what happened was very wrong, as he's posted in this very thread.

It all comes down to the idea of karma.

You dont fucking get it, if he didn't think it was wrong he would act like BoL and NEVER HAVE FUCKING GIVEN THE STONE BACK. Think about it. If their shell didn't think it was wrong they would have been "Tough shit" its our stone we are keeping it. But FYI they gave the stone back and it was a leadership decision, ya prick.

 

[beeznuts]

You dont fucking get it, if he didn't think it was wrong he would act like BoL and NEVER HAVE FUCKING GIVEN THE STONE BACK. Think about it. If their shell didn't think it was wrong they would have been "Tough shit" its our stone we are keeping it. But FYI they gave the stone back and it was a leadership decision, ya prick.

...what does that have to do with his personal opinions and such? Remember? Hellstorm? The person we're talking about here? As in... not the rest of the leadership there?

 

[jyakotsu]

...what does that have to do with his personal opinions and such? Remember? Hellstorm? The person we're talking about here? As in... not the rest of the leadership there?

Because you totally ignored my first post. Let me repeat it for you, because Hellstorm's opinion based on the forum has everything to do w/ "Deserved" Gear.

Garvin,
I'm assuming if you were up for Ridill or N head or A body, or something, and Necrosis Ninja'ed it from you at the last second, we could say you didn't deserve it either since you are a complete dick on the forums? I mean your logic states the following, "because Hellstorm posts on the forums he suddenly doesn't deserve gear. " Which is utter bullshit.

Honestly Garvin there are three sides to this thread. Those that agree that it was fucked up what had happened to Hellstorm. And then those that think just because its hellstorm it is ok to steal from people. And then those that keep bringing in the Despot issue >.>. Which side are you on Garvin, because if it is the Stealing side, then you are no better than Grndmstr.

 

[beeznuts]

Garvin,
I'm assuming if you were up for Ridill or N head or A body, or something, and Necrosis Ninja'ed it from you at the last second, we could say you didn't deserve it either since you are a complete dick on the forums? I mean your logic states the following, "because Hellstorm posts on the forums he suddenly doesn't deserve gear. " Which is utter bullshit.

I don't recall saying things like "You lost claim (to us), so that's too bad, it's not yours anymore". Either way, if you felt that way about me, then yeah, I guess it's a relatively fair opinion that I wouldn't really deserve it.

Honestly Garvin there are three sides to this thread. Those that agree that it was fucked up what had happened to Hellstorm. And then those that think just because its hellstorm it is ok to steal from people. And then those that keep bringing in the Despot issue >.>. Which side are you on Garvin, because if it is the Stealing side, then you are no better than Grndmstr.

Looks like you haven't read my posts either. I made it extremely clear that I don't condone or agree with what happened in any way, and simply choose to write both parties off as undeserving. This brings us to the fourth side that you missed. The one that just thinks both sides are lol.

 

[jyakotsu]

Yes, he ninjalotted the AF2

If you see him looking for dynamis LS, please do not invite him to your dynamis

Let me repeat what the real purpose of this thread was. It had nothing to do w/ the fact that it was hellstorm that it happened to. Nor did it have anything to do w/ people bringing my name into the thread w/o me saying anything in the thread. Nor did it have to do w/ Despot.

 

[beeznuts]

Let me repeat what the real purpose of this thread was. It had nothing to do w/ the fact that it was hellstorm that it happened to. Nor did it have anything to do w/ people bringing my name into the thread w/o me saying anything in the thread. Nor did it have to do w/ Despot.

I agree wholeheartedly with the quoted posts stating that Grndmstr is a piece of shit, and find the other facets of the situation that have been brought up amusing due to the karma involved.
Can I ask what your point is?

 

[jyakotsu]

I don't recall saying things like "You lost claim (to us), so that's too bad, it's not yours anymore". Either way, if you felt that way about me, then yeah, I guess it's a relatively fair opinion that I wouldn't really deserve it.


Looks like you haven't read my posts either. I made it extremely clear that I don't condone or agree with what happened in any way, and simply choose to write both parties off as undeserving. This brings us to the fourth side that you missed. The one that just thinks both sides are lol.

Correlating that both sides are Lol is the same as condoning this. And trust me i read your posts. I dont care if you dont "Condone" as such, but the thing is that you are basically saying that he doesn't deserve it because of his posting here.

But hey that is just me. I dont agree w/ what you said at all. If this happened to Rappa, or if this happened to any other person i guarantee that you would be wiping their asses saying "HAY IM REALLY SORRY THAT THIS HAPPENED, CAN I GIVE YOU A MASSAGE"

But hey i have to go to work, so have fun ^^

 

[Dowzer]

QFT Kero. Hellstorm put in as much time as any top tiered rdm,

what?

 

[Myrrh]

As much as I hate Hellstorm(I mean I REALLY hate the guy) I have to say what happened is pretty shitty. No matter how bad a person is no one deserves to be Nin lotted out of super special awesome gear. Common drop/rare drop/once in a blue moon drop, doesn't change the fact that Nin lotting isn't right.

As many people once said. No matter how bad a person, no one deserves to be Nin lotted.

 

[beeznuts]

Correlating that both sides are Lol is the same as condoning this. And trust me i read your posts. I dont care if you dont "Condone" as such, but the thing is that you are basically saying that he doesn't deserve it because of his posting here.

You're right, I guess, I was mistaken about my own opinion and actually think this was a wonderful event. Grndmstr is a great guy for doing this, and I wholeheartedly approve of his actions. Thanks for pointing out my mistake, and I apologize to everyone for falsely presenting any amount of disdain or insults toward Grndmstr.

But hey that is just me. I dont agree w/ what you said at all. If this happened to Rappa, or if this happened to any other person i guarantee that you would be wiping their asses saying "HAY IM REALLY SORRY THAT THIS HAPPENED, CAN I GIVE YOU A MASSAGE"

Rappa? Maybe, not sure about the massage though. BUT I JUST MIGHT. "Any other person", though? Now you're just exaggerating things. But yes, most of the non-moron upstanding folk around here, I'd definitely be wiping their asses. I'd even go buy the fancy toilet paper, with the fragrance and quilting and stuff.

what?

The plot thickens.

 

[Master Honcho]

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR GOD DAMN DESPOT

your 25 flamingo's couldn't hold hate on the fucking mob and you lost claim...thats the fucking game, you lost claim and someone else got it let it the fuck go, in the time you've been butthurt about your goddamn gem of the west (which you got back btw after whining and crying like 4 year old bitches) 500 of those fucking stones have dropped, compared to maybe 3 or 4 of the duelist hats dropping...get some fucking perspective on the motherfucking items your talking about before you attack someone with "karma"




no...no no no no

if you knew hellstorm, took the time to understand him instead of commin at him with your fucking weak ass spelling and grammar attacks you would know that he is a good guy, and a great player, all the shit he's done for me

alone would outweigh the "stolen despot" your so butthurt about

you dont understand the first thing about karma, kindly gtfo

you're very unintelligent.


coming at me saying i'm butthurt over this? very mature. let's at least act our age here. i'm sure you're sitting at your computer very upset over this... but just relax, go ask your mom to make you a hot pocket and chill out.


i'm not still pissed about the whole despot thing or upset. i'm simply saying KARMA IS A MOTHERFUCKING BITCH! if you're small mind can't comprehend that, then why don't you just make another post that shows your intelligence.

hells did not want to give the stone back. they stole it, and gave it back. it's over, and i dont care anymore. but that doesnt change the fact that it happened, and he never once apologized and still believes he didn't steal it. and enough with the significance of items excuse. that's simply rediculous. I'M NOT AN IDIOT, I KNOW AF2 IS HARDER TO GET THAN A DESPOT GEM. the fact is though, it's the same concept. he stole something, someone stole something from him. it's black and white. i like to believe people get what they deserve in the end. and seeing that hells wasn't the least bit remorseful over that prior incident, then it's easy to see that karma bit him in his ass. and if you're too stupid to figure that out then well... ya


oh and a side note.. i've never attacked hells for his typing skills... quite the contrary, i've been accused of bad typing.. ' and i just don't give a fuuuuccc*** ' : O

 

[Lavi]

Hey, don't hold me responsible for the actions of someone else.
Also, I hope you realize that I'd left Quetzalcoatl long before that happened, so you might not want to comment on something you know so little about, yes? (P.S. hi2uadhominem)


Yes. You're right. From a purely technical point of view, he earned his gear by the rules of loldynamis. I never said he didn't earn it. I said he didn't deserve it. Here in the real world, lots of undeserving people earn a lot of things.

...hell, a lot of undeserving people obtain a lot of things without properly earning them, but that's neither here nor there.

And one other thing I'd like to clarify in advance: I don't condone what happened. I just find it hard to feel sympathy in this case. In the end, it just winds up being a mildly humorous incident with trash on both sides, for their own various reasons.

You left and even your "friend" tried to stab you in the back to get you banned. Now, what am I missing other than the underlying details that have no relevance? It speaks volumes about you as a person if a friend is going to great lengths to do that. You left a long time ago? Big deal, you weren't wanted then and you're not wanted now. You're just a useless troll that comes back bitching about how terrible Quetz is and yet cannot fucking stay away.

It's not a "techinical" issue. If he didn't earn it, the rules would have been changed to reflect that he didn't earn and it would have gone to someone else. Dowzer already said something previously about wanting to change the rules and if they felt Hell had not earned it then, they would have listened to Dowzer to reflect that. All you're doing is stretching your pathetic logic to encompass your hatred of the kid to justify laughing at his misfortune. You're a piece of shit and wasting any further breath on you is meaningless.

 

[Tok]

you're very unintelligent.


coming at me saying i'm butthurt over this? very mature. let's at least act our age here. i'm sure you're sitting at your computer very upset over this... but just relax, go ask your mom to make you a hot pocket and chill out.


i'm not still pissed about the whole despot thing or upset. i'm simply saying KARMA IS A MOTHERFUCKING BITCH! if you're small mind can't comprehend that, then why don't you just make another post that shows your intelligence.

hells did not want to give the stone back. they stole it, and gave it back. it's over, and i dont care anymore. but that doesnt change the fact that it happened, and he never once apologized and still believes he didn't steal it. and enough with the significance of items excuse. that's simply rediculous. I'M NOT AN IDIOT, I KNOW AF2 IS HARDER TO GET THAN A DESPOT GEM. the fact is though, it's the same concept. he stole something, someone stole something from him. it's black and white. i like to believe people get what they deserve in the end. and seeing that hells wasn't the least bit remorseful over that prior incident, then it's easy to see that karma bit him in his ass. and if you're too stupid to figure that out then well... ya


oh and a side note.. i've never attacked hells for his typing skills... quite the contrary, i've been accused of bad typing.. ' and i just don't give a fuuuuccc*** ' : O

i'm not even gonna sit here and argue this with you kid because in your perfect little universe your the radiant becon of karmic righteousness and i'm floating in a sea of wrong with nothing but a cardboard plank of wrong to keep me afloat

NM's get stolen from shells every day, a shell wipes to fafnir, it goes yellow, another shell steals it, a shell cant keep hate on cerb, it goes yellow, another shell steals it, a shells healers spam cure on the tanks of another shell who have behemoth, they steal hate, it goes yellow, they steal it...

why do you think that your shell is exempt from this?

 

[beeznuts]

You left and even your "friend" tried to stab you in the back to get you banned. Now, what am I missing other than the underlying details that have no relevance? It speaks volumes about you as a person if a friend is going to great lengths to do that. You left a long time ago? Big deal, you weren't wanted then and you're not wanted now. You're just a useless troll that comes back bitching about how terrible Quetz is and yet cannot fucking stay away.

I'm not sure what part of "ad hominem" you aren't quite getting, but I'll give your line a little nibble, I suppose.
It speaks nothing of me that an old friend of mine turned out to have a bad temper, and did things he shouldn't have. The fact of the matter is that you don't want me there, and I give about as much of a shit about your opinion regarding this as you do mine. Fucking deal with it. I'm also trying not to drag that shit back out, it happened, actions were taken, and I find myself satisfied with the results, not needing to drag it through the mud anymore than it already has been. You'll notice even though nothing was concluded, I stopped this bullshit a long time ago out of what respect I had left for a former friend, and you're the one dragging up something that has nothing to fucking do with you. Who's the piece of shit here again?

Additionally, I've only said negative things about quetz on a handful of occasions, when people had specifically asked about the server. So that's wrong too. The reason I stick around here is so that all these names can sink in in my head. I might come back someday because, get this, I have friends on quetzalcoatl still.

Getting back on topic...

It's not a "techinical" issue. If he didn't earn it, the rules would have been changed to reflect that he didn't earn and it would have gone to someone else. Dowzer already said something previously about wanting to change the rules and if they felt Hell had not earned it then, they would have listened to Dowzer to reflect that. All you're doing is stretching your pathetic logic to encompass your hatred of the kid to justify laughing at his misfortune.

Show me where I said he didn't earn it, please. I'll wait.

 

[Dowzer]

The thing that pisses me off is I was first for the hat. Until it was brought to my attention that a new rule had been implemented. I switched from RNG to RDM tier because no one was in it. (lolfree lot jerkin)

I've been in the shell over twice as long. When you switch from one tier to another, your points are cut in half. I still have more points than him but here's the catch. The new rule. When switching from one tier to another, even if you have the most attendance, you must wait until the first person in that tier obtains their relic. I've brought the subject up and it seems to fall on deaf ears, IE: "They're rules, we're not changing them."

He may have earned it, but there's no way he deserves it.

 

[Taurothar]

He may have earned it, but there's no way he deserves it.

Considering this rule has been on our books from about the time that Ajs handed the shell over to Gladdy? Yea, he had every right to enforce that rule, as does anyone else who has a tier changer hop to the top.

3-3 Changing Your Tier

If a member wishes to change tiers prior to receiving AF from that zone, they will lose 50% of their attendance points. This is to prevent someone from changing from the middle of one tier to the top of another tier and taking an AF that someone else was first in line for. If someone has enough points even after the 50% penalty to jump to first in line on another tier, they will be held in second place until the first person gets their AF.

Been on our forums since the day it was changed. Read the rules of your shell before complaining.

 

[Kerowynn]

He may have earned it, but there's no way he deserves it.

Just because you may deserve it more doesn't mean he doesn't deserve it at all. =P

 

[Bajaratt]

Considering this rule has been on our books from about the time that Ajs handed the shell over to Gladdy? Yea, he had every right to enforce that rule, as does anyone else who has a tier changer hop to the top.



Been on our forums since the day it was changed. Read the rules of your shell before complaining.

Dowzer said that he earned it; meaning that the followed the rules and obtained it legally as per the linkshell rules. That doesn't necessarily equate to deserving it though, which is his point.

 

[Uzor]

Dowzer said that he earned it; meaning that the followed the rules and obtained it legally as per the linkshell rules. That doesn't necessarily equate to deserving it though, which is his point.

Deserving how, exactly?

You mean, as in, in yours and his opinion, he's a bad player, and thus doesn't deserve it? Because that's a matter of opinion, and not factual.

 

[Odon]

Deserving how, exactly?

You mean, as in, in yours and his opinion, he's a bad player, and thus doesn't deserve it? Because that's a matter of opinion, and not factual.

I think deserving as in Dowzer put more time and effort into the shell than hellstorm, but I dunno I'm just a taru.