Grndmstr Steal AF2 From LolDynamis

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jamal said:
I hope RMT hack my account too. I've said it countless times, its the only way I could quit.

Go back to the early posts in this thread. I told Hells I felt bad for him. Then he posted the Honcho issues.

Its a whole different ballgame now.
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Actually I didn't post a link till you, said i was telling confidential information. He the one that kept going on about karma, now i bring new cards to the table, karma works both ways considering he was the one in the wrong with the despot thread I call on the fact that it is he who got the bad karma not I.
 
jyakotsu said:
So let me get this straight, i might have an incorrect analogy so please correct me if I am wrong

A prostitute quits having sex for money one day.

The next day is raped by a few of her close friends.

Is told tough shit because she was a prostitute in the first place? I'm not really getting it.

Really it has nothing to do w/ what he says. He can scream bloody murder and it doesn't make the event, nor does it condone it. If you say you feel bad for him Jamal stay as such, don't be a dickhead... Remember what you read about Karma in Honcho's posts?
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The analogy makes no sense in regards to this. I judge people on their full frame of work. I gave Hellstorm the benefit of doubt...notice I had 0 posts in the next 20 pages. When he overstepped bounds in my opinion (yes I know, QQ), I responded accordingly. What this has to do with a prostitute quitting being a prostitute I have no idea. No one deserves to be raped, no one deserves to have relic stolen, sure.

But there's a very VIVID line between reality and ingame problems. You can't make a real life analogy to it, because its half-fake, half real. Hells overstepped the real-life boundary. Whether it was previously-known information or not doesn't excuse his actions.

Rather than again trying to make pointless arguments just to bitch at me, why don't you take a look at your fucking retarded ls-mate, jab him in the mouth, and tell him to leave real-life out of this.
 
jyakotsu said:
Dude i seriously thought there were others that randomly spewed PC+1 bullshit. Lol when i first saw you on this board, i actually thought you posted intellectual information regarding important matters in the game.

lmao what happened? Did the PC+1 get too far up your ass that its all you spew now?
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And all you do is post whiney bitch posts.
 
jamal said:
The analogy makes no sense in regards to this. I judge people on their full frame of work. I gave Hellstorm the benefit of doubt...notice I had 0 posts in the next 20 pages. When he overstepped bounds in my opinion (yes I know, QQ), I responded accordingly. What this has to do with a prostitute quitting being a prostitute I have no idea. No one deserves to be raped, no one deserves to have relic stolen, sure.

But there's a very VIVID line between reality and ingame problems. You can't make a real life analogy to it, because its half-fake, half real. Hells overstepped the real-life boundary. Whether it was previously-known information or not doesn't excuse his actions.

Rather than again trying to make pointless arguments just to bitch at me, why don't you take a look at your fucking retarded ls-mate, jab him in the mouth, and tell him to leave real-life out of this.
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why would i jab at hellstorm? He was the one wronged, know what i mean?
I think the honest jabs at him were too much Jamal.

He was the one wronged and you have others(Not including Honcho in this) giving him shit based on his spelling/in game activities. Then you have idiots like Audino and Garvin rating down/posting retarded comments that have no basis to the argument. The point REGARDLESS of how he posts is that he was the one wronged. I guarantee if it was close to anyone else the tone of this flame would have been completely different.

That is the basis that i'm getting at: Should someone that was condemed once be brought to shit no matter what happens to him? Because honestly that is bullshit.
 
jamal said:
The analogy makes no sense in regards to this. I judge people on their full frame of work. I gave Hellstorm the benefit of doubt...notice I had 0 posts in the next 20 pages. When he overstepped bounds in my opinion (yes I know, QQ), I responded accordingly. What this has to do with a prostitute quitting being a prostitute I have no idea. No one deserves to be raped, no one deserves to have relic stolen, sure.

But there's a very VIVID line between reality and ingame problems. You can't make a real life analogy to it, because its half-fake, half real. Hells overstepped the real-life boundary. Whether it was previously-known information or not doesn't excuse his actions.

Rather than again trying to make pointless arguments just to bitch at me, why don't you take a look at your fucking retarded ls-mate, jab him in the mouth, and tell him to leave real-life out of this.
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First off you cross that line more times then I can count, but there was no mention of anything that was not game related, him having to quit due to loss of money is game related. That is if he wants to continue with the karma line then he needs to look at himself. Because his karma was not to great after that event. was it? He cause a action "him lying about serene stealing from the flock" causing "him to quit game"
 
hellstorm said:
First off you cross that line more times then I can count, but there was no mention of anything that was not game related, him having to quit due to loss of money is game related
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unless Honcho worked something out with SE to pay the monthly fee in gil, then no, his monetary situation was NOT game related
 
jyakotsu said:
why would i jab at hellstorm? He was the one wronged, know what i mean?
I think the honest jabs at him were too much Jamal.

He was the one wronged and you have others(Not including Honcho in this) giving him shit based on his spelling/in game activities. Then you have idiots like Audino and Garvin rating down/posting retarded comments that have no basis to the argument. The point REGARDLESS of how he posts is that he was the one wronged. I guarantee if it was close to anyone else the tone of this flame would have been completely different.

That is the basis that i'm getting at: Should someone that was condemed once be brought to shit no matter what happens to him? Because honestly that is bullshit.
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I didn't mean jab as an offense. When you go to a bar, and your friend is hitting on someone with a big-ass boyfriend, you jab him in the mouth and say dude, lay off.

There is no hellstorm conspiracy. There is no hellstorm conspiracy. I haven't talked to a SINGLE person about the hellstorm posting, besides the person who pointed out the flame to me. Garvin has been one of the people at my nuts rating me down, why would he suddenly heed to my commands. Audino's my friend, but he has a brain of his own. I am not the underground leader of the rate-down society. I post in the flameboard on two occasions:
A) It directly or indirectly involves me.
B) Someone makes a flat-out retarded post.

B falls in line here. Note that I made certain I understood where Hells was coming from BEFORE posting I hoped he'd get Ninjalotted again. Frankly, someone who has this disregard for someone's real life doesn't deserve any type of spotlight. Others would argue I don't as well. But I hold to one rule: The game is a game, real life is real life. You need to find a separation between the two.

I've not disregarded that what happened to him was wrong. I hope Darth gets ninjalotted for his RMT activities. I also hope Hells does again now that I know his severe disrespect for things that happen outside of a login its time to play atmosphere. If you can honestly say that you disagree with that because you do with the argument I'm portraying, then fine...do so. I can't change the way you think, I can only explain my position. But don't blindly defend someone for his actions which in some minds are worse then the crimes he incurred simply because he's in your LS, and you hate me so you have to disagree.

I'll admit, I looked at this thread for the sole reason it was Hellstorm who it happened to. But I posted right away I felt bad for what happened. Being able to change my mind after he explained some of his beliefs is well within my prerogative as an observer to the situation.
 
appreciate it jamal.

anywho. back to hellzorz


like i said. dude i PROMISE you, i could've kept playing ffxi. but i did need $, and in the end, i just went ahead and sold my character. sure, i miss playing the game, but like i said there are many more things i have going on which made me really need to get my priorities straight and just quit. and the whole bank thing kind of made it official.

if you want to bring my real life misfortunes into a final fantasy eleven online gaming discussion board to make me look bad then by all means go for it. it really shows how you are.

i really didn't want to dive back into that whole incident with despot, but you keep bringing up your side... i know what happened. you know what happened. members of your own shell at the time know what happened. if you go back and look at the thread, many of your own shell members at the time admitted everything that day was kinda fucked up..


ok that's enough about that.

anyway.. seriously dude. just play the game, have fun, and quit pissing people off. if you just didn't do shit like you did, you wouldn't have people like me popping on here telling you how karma bit you in the ass, which it did. just man up to your mistakes and apolgize for things you've done wrong.

and the thing with karma actually affecting me... i had to wrong someone to receive karma. which i never did... ok i did mpk some of my old friends.. but hey it was fun!

i kinda just got bitchslapped by the bank for no reason and lost alot of $ outa my bank account, which in turn, made me decide to sell honcho.

and actually later on the bank finally got most of my $ back to me... but that's beside the point.


i really did hope that after i called you out with the whole karma thing that you would realize the error of your ways... but i guess i was wrong... but hey, if you realize it one day and just admit you were wrong... then i guess we'll be cool..
 
jamal said:
I didn't mean jab as an offense. When you go to a bar, and your friend is hitting on someone with a big-ass boyfriend, you jab him in the mouth and say dude, lay off.

There is no hellstorm conspiracy. There is no hellstorm conspiracy. I haven't talked to a SINGLE person about the hellstorm posting, besides the person who pointed out the flame to me. Garvin has been one of the people at my nuts rating me down, why would he suddenly heed to my commands. Audino's my friend, but he has a brain of his own. I am not the underground leader of the rate-down society. I post in the flameboard on two occasions:
A) It directly or indirectly involves me.
B) Someone makes a flat-out retarded post.

B falls in line here. Note that I made certain I understood where Hells was coming from BEFORE posting I hoped he'd get Ninjalotted again. Frankly, someone who has this disregard for someone's real life doesn't deserve any type of spotlight. Others would argue I don't as well. But I hold to one rule: The game is a game, real life is real life. You need to find a separation between the two.

I've not disregarded that what happened to him was wrong. I hope Darth gets ninjalotted for his RMT activities. I also hope Hells does again now that I know his severe disrespect for things that happen outside of a login its time to play atmosphere. If you can honestly say that you disagree with that because you do with the argument I'm portraying, then fine...do so. I can't change the way you think, I can only explain my position. But don't blindly defend someone for his actions which in some minds are worse then the crimes he incurred simply because he's in your LS, and you hate me so you have to disagree.

I'll admit, I looked at this thread for the sole reason it was Hellstorm who it happened to. But I posted right away I felt bad for what happened. Being able to change my mind after he explained some of his beliefs is well within my prerogative as an observer to the situation.
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Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. Similar to religion and such. If you honestly believe that Hellstorm should get ninja lotted again, then i disagree. Yes i agree that Darth should have his account banned for activities w/ RMT but in all honesty is that the same?
 
and one more quick thing... again i guess people like ramp. don't understand principle and respect.

yous aid we bitched and moaned over a stone. no.

i bitched, got pissed off, etc because my guys got screwed by a classless act. we used to get plenty of stones. these guys stole one from us, and that's simply not cool. period. and i just wanted them to know. and yea i wanted the stone back, but that's really not what it was about. again... class, respect, principle.. some people have it... some people.. well..
 
jyakotsu said:
why would i jab at hellstorm? He was the one wronged, know what i mean? I think the honest jabs at him were too much Jamal.
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Because he's bitching about someone unfairly stealing from him. Very much like he unfairly stole from the Flock.

He was the one wronged and you have others(Not including Honcho in this) giving him shit based on his spelling/in game activities.
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That's not new. That happens in every thread. If he doesn't want to be made fun of for banging his cock against the keyboard to type, then he should learn how to type, read the dictionary, play word games, go take an english class, or quit posting here.

Then you have idiots like Audino and Garvin rating down/posting retarded comments that have no basis to the argument.
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Who cares? You don't like it, ignore them. Problem solved.

The point REGARDLESS of how he posts is that he was the one wronged.
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He was the one wronged this time. Show me were you or him either one showed the slightest bit of remorse over anything that happened to someone you guys didn't like. A lot of people simply do not like him. Or you for that matter.

I guarantee if it was close to anyone else the tone of this flame would have been completely different.
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If it had happend to someone else, it would be different. Unless they were as ignorant and equally unlikable as hellstorm. He made his own reputation, and now he has to deal with that.

That is the basis that i'm getting at: Should someone that was condemed once be brought to shit no matter what happens to him? Because honestly that is bullshit.
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Depends on what it was for. If someone was to shoot Hellstorm in the head, or even punch him in the face over what he did to the flock, that would be wrong. That event was trivial, much like this one.

But if the situation was much more serious, like Benedict Arnold for example... died of lung disease, poor, and in obscurity. He was a trader and got what he deserved.

But loosing a hat that could very easily be obtained again by any Dynamis linkshell... Yeah, he deserved that.
 
jyakotsu said:
Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. Similar to religion and such. If you honestly believe that Hellstorm should get ninja lotted again, then i disagree. Yes i agree that Darth should have his account banned for activities w/ RMT but in all honesty is that the same?
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Reread the only part of my post you responded to.
 
Master Honcho said:
and one more quick thing... again i guess people like ramp. don't understand principle and respect.

yous aid we bitched and moaned over a stone. no.

i bitched, got pissed off, etc because my guys got screwed by a classless act. we used to get plenty of stones. these guys stole one from us, and that's simply not cool. period. and i just wanted them to know. and yea i wanted the stone back, but that's really not what it was about. again... class, respect, principle.. some people have it... some people.. well..
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Well, they use Hellstorm's reputation against him and lie about an incident involving an NM
 
rampagesama said:
Well, they use Hellstorm's reputation against him and lie about an incident involving an NM
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lie about an incident involving an NM? are you kidding me? hells can blow crap about that day forever, but everyone knows what happened whether they wanna admit it or not. please... go back and read the old flame. many... many of those members of that LS admitted they were wrong and it was a steal... so are you telling me they were lieing too?

please. that whole ordeal is over. we all know what happened. karma bit hells in the ass because of that whole thing . period. the end. pretty cut and dry if you ask me
 
hellstorm said:
please infact that thread did not start in the reality board it was moved. Secondly the private board thing don't work. He showed his problem to the world. plus I had not said anything to make him go emo, with exception of the fact that if he going say this is karma, then he better look closer at himself.
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Do you even read what you post before you post it?
It was moved there for a fucking reason you dumbass!
(I know, kinda late, but whatever, fuck you.)
 
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