Gustav is on the same tract Katrina took.

[Anglis]

This Tropical storm, soon to be Hurricane is on a direct path toward N.O and the gulf coast of Mississippi.

I live in Hattiesburg, MS which is about 50 miles north of the Gulf. Went weeks without power and water, and had total destruction to almost everything. I hope this storms takes a different path. N.O. isnt ready, and the Mississippi coast isn't either.

 

[Tribalinius]

I wish the best of luck for you people, we don't have anything like that in the land of frozen trolls but I'm pretty sure it must be tough for your people. Brace yourself man, and I pray that the hurricane will change his path and spare that part of the usa.

 

[K. Ishitar]

Yeah best of luck I was reading in USA Today how the spending for the Hurricane Katrina victims has increased exponentially as far as hotel rooms and making homes but eventually after 3 billion put into it(major increase from the past few years of a few million) people are going to be on the streets. With the slow progress in Lousiana and affected states it's going to be worse if it does take the same path.

watch out for yourself

 

[Celvantes]

I think a message is being communicated here:

DON'T BUILD A CITY BELOW SEA LEVEL (or if you do, make sure you have a wall like the Dutch and not some pansy-ass levee). There's a REASON Holland hasn't been wiped off the map.

 

[Skaw]

Or you know, when you hear a hurricane is heading to the vacinity of your suboceanic city, gather what you treasure most and get the fuck out of Dodge.

Yeah, it was a disaster. But it would've been less so if people didn't wait until the last minute to evacuate themselves, or not at all.

 

[Tribalinius]

Or you know, when you hear a hurricane is heading to the vacinity of your suboceanic city, gather what you treasure most and get the fuck out of Dodge.

Yeah, it was a disaster. But it would've been less so if people didn't wait until the last minute to evacuate themselves, or not at all.

You speak of wisdom and logic.

But I understand why people don't want to leave their house, their town, their past and their history. But still, you can't fight the force of nature with so many geographical disadvantages and pretend that everyone will be safe in the end, that's just unconscious and irresponsible.

If I was in Louisiana at this point and had suffered Katrina, I would gather my luggage and leave at once. Being alive, healthy and having a family elsewhere > being stubborn and risking your life against the force of nature. Everyday.

 

[Anglis]

Or you know, when you hear a hurricane is heading to the vacinity of your suboceanic city, gather what you treasure most and get the fuck out of Dodge.

Yeah, it was a disaster. But it would've been less so if people didn't wait until the last minute to evacuate themselves, or not at all.

Actually in N.O, this might be hard for some people to grasp, but a lot of people couldnt leave. A big majority of the people living in the Parish's don't have transportation. Thats why the gov't got criticized, for not having a plan to evacuate the people who don't have vehicles. No one expected it to be that way. Thats why 1800+ people died. I think now they have over 1500 buses though in case Gustav hits. Looks like it's moving more west right now.



Not just N.O though. Gulfport ,MS got wiped from the face of the planet. 90% total destruction to the buildings.

 

[Amidamaru]

I think a message is being communicated here:

DON'T BUILD A CITY BELOW SEA LEVEL (or if you do, make sure you have a wall like the Dutch and not some pansy-ass levee). There's a REASON Holland hasn't been wiped off the map.

This.

Also, you can't say: "It looks the same as Katrina, N.O. going to be fucked" I don't know about everyone else, but... I've learned that there is no way to preditc how nature will react. Right now it can just go some place else. Where I live we used to get hit by all the hurricanes.. once like 4 years ago one passed by us, took an U-turn and hit us again.

Example: 95% chance rain forcast for tomorrow.

Friday morning: sunny
Friday afternoon: sunny
Friday night. Clear skies

Wait wat?

 

[Excim]

Remember when the mid west got flooded this past year? A lot of people lost thier homes along with everything they owned. How come they aren't all so vocal about getting a FEMA cheque? Hmmm....

Anyway... there used to be a rather large village in Phillippines situated on the side of a mountain. A Volcano erupted, after being thought extinct for the last 8,000 years or so. It demolished the town, and killed many people. You know what the remaining towns people did? They fucking moved.

When another storm... not even a real strong hurricane, surges the ocean waters again near N.O., it's gonna be under water again. I know if I lived in N.O. I'd GTFO.

 

[Tristam Green]

My Paternal side's hometown was built in a valley in Alabama, right along the banks of a river. In 1929, the entire town was devastated by a flood. The entire city was effectively washed away.

After the floodwaters receded, they packed their shit, and moved the ENTIRE city around 6 miles upstream where the waters weren't so apt to flood.

 

[Excim]

My Paternal side's hometown was built in a valley in Alabama, right along the banks of a river. In 1929, the entire town was devastated by a flood. The entire city was effectively washed away.

After the floodwaters receded, they packed their shit, and moved the ENTIRE city around 6 miles upstream where the waters weren't so apt to flood.

Thank god you were able to say it with a bit more tact than I.

I'm all for donating to help people get back on thier feet... the first time. After that... hell, they were the ones silly enough to move back.


My memory is muddy, what with this river that I'm in. New Orleans is sinkin man and I don't wanna swim.

 

[Anglis]

Remember when the mid west got flooded this past year? A lot of people lost thier homes along with everything they owned. How come they aren't all so vocal about getting a FEMA cheque? Hmmm....

Anyway... there used to be a rather large village in Phillippines situated on the side of a mountain. A Volcano erupted, after being thought extinct for the last 8,000 years or so. It demolished the town, and killed many people. You know what the remaining towns people did? They fucking moved.

When another storm... not even a real strong hurricane, surges the ocean waters again near N.O., it's gonna be under water again. I know if I lived in N.O. I'd GTFO.

This is true, but it's much easier to move a 8000 population town then a 700,000 population city. People have spent there whole lives there, and you know people, when its all they've ever had, they don't wont to give it up.

Plus, what the nation doesn't seem to understand is, a huge majority of people that live in the Parish's are dirt poor. They have nowhere to go.

 

[Amidamaru]

This is true, but it's much easier to move a 8000 population town then a 700,000 population city. People have spent there whole lives there, and you know people, when its all they've ever had, they don't wont to give it up.

Well.. then those people should just stay there and shouldn't dare raise a finger complaining for what happened.

 

[Tristam Green]

This is true, but it's much easier to move a 8000 population town then a 700,000 population city. People have spent there whole lives there, and you know people, when its all they've ever had, they don't wont to give it up.

Plus, what the nation doesn't seem to understand is, a huge majority of people that live in the Parish's are dirt poor. They have nowhere to go.

Yet a lot of them did anyway. I cannot speak for anyone who lives in New Orleans, or anyone who was displaced. However, I know that cities like Houston, Beaumont, and even as far as San Antonio, TX have had to deal with (yes, deal with, for lack of a better word) of displaced former New Orleanites who were evac'd in the days following Hurricane Katrina, and not only appear to not be able to go anywhere, but some of them don't make an effort to get out of their own predicaments.

I certainly wouldn't wish them to go back to New Orleans, goodness knows, but they could at least do *something*. Just as there are folks who were evacuated and are now not making steps to get their own lives on track, there are probably people in New Orleans as well who speak of "I'm not able to; I don't have transportation", when they probably could.

 

[K. Ishitar]

Yet a lot of them did anyway. I cannot speak for anyone who lives in New Orleans, or anyone who was displaced. However, I know that cities like Houston, Beaumont, and even as far as San Antonio, TX have had to deal with (yes, deal with, for lack of a better word) of displaced former New Orleanites who were evac'd in the days following Hurricane Katrina, and not only appear to not be able to go anywhere, but some of them don't make an effort to get out of their own predicaments.

I certainly wouldn't wish them to go back to New Orleans, goodness knows, but they could at least do *something*. Just as there are folks who were evacuated and are now not making steps to get their own lives on track, there are probably people in New Orleans as well who speak of "I'm not able to; I don't have transportation", when they probably could.

you said my thoughts better than I did, Amid if you're whole life is in a certain location and you don't want to move anywhere else then you'd stay there until something ends it?

Since living there is living your life and you feel as though living outside it is the same as being dead correct? That's the ideology I'm understanding about people who only live in certain areas for certain comfortableness or it's easier to live life.

The suggested viewpoint is lax and oversimplifying in my opinion, have you seen enough of the world to determine if it's better staying down on a place en route to most probrable destruction? Granted our predictions aren't 100% accurate but why take a chance?

 

[Anglis]

In Hattiesburg, our population went up over 15,000 after the hurricane. Some left, some stayed.

The Transportation is true though. 1000's of people literally didn't have a way out of N.O. Since Katrina impacted this area greatly, its now talked about in our Sociology and Psy classes. Since I've studied the subject, and live down here, i know a little about it.

Granted, some people have taken advantage of the gov't supporting them, and haven't gotten there life back in order. That % of people though, do not represent 700,000 people.



Also, I dont think you guys really know how hard it is to just pack up, move away and "start over" somewhere else. Have you not seen the economy? Property/housing prices? People who live in N.O have jobs that support that type of economy, and they're good at it. They just up and leave, they might not find another job for a very long time. They sure won't have enough for land/housing, especially after they lost everything.

If everybody just up and left, the rich would get the surrounding apartments, and leave the poorer to the streets. Take 700k to 1 million people, distribute them to North Louisiana, East Texas, Mississippi, Arkansas, then all of a sudden you have less places for the poor to live, because those place will be taken by the Middle Class/Rich people.

 

[Amidamaru]

nvm

 

[tonicfly]

Speaking from experience right now im in the town Gustav is supposed to hit (Morgan City) this is the town i grew up but no longer live in. surprisingly im actually not that far from you Angilis i currently reside just north of New Orleans in Hammond. Earlier friday afternoon when i left hammond for morgan city people were freaking out it took me almost an hour to find a gas station that still had gas everyone was panicking and filling up 55 gallon drums full of fuel. but ya know what i found when i got down to morgan city which is under mandatory evacuation starting at 4 pm saturday afternoon. people were out having a good time at the annual Shrimp and Petroleum Festival. It seemed everyone was just having a grand ole time and not worring about the storm thats supposed to hit this town in just a matter of 2 days. People here are truelly like no other because where people would be panicking and rushing to get outta town the true bayou people of south louisiana look at it upon a time to have a bit of fun and casually get out of town on their own time all the while living it up with family and friends. today leaving for houston for a wedding otherwise i would be staying right here yes most people think it would be crazy to stay in a town where a hurricane might hit but i have so many friends that aren't going to be leaving due to different reasons. thing is i will be back near here sunday afternoon and waiting for the storm to pass and become part of the people that spend their time cleaning up and restoring the damage from the hurricane. if i get a chance to hop on the net after or maybe during the hurricane ill let yall know whats happening in this area

 

[Tim Wakefield]

George Bush hates black people.

On a more serious note, if you told me my house was going to be washed away in the next week or two, I'd be out of here in 45 minutes. Transportation or not, memories or not, I'd find a way the fuck out.

 

[Hexx]

As hard as it can be to move away from all that you know and love, saving your own life, and that of your family, carries more importance than any memories that place carries. How can you "appreciate" those memories if you and/or family members are dead due to the flooding? Move on, make a better life in another city. Yes it will be hard but those difficulties will only make you stronger.