Half naked women in avatars/signatures

Raivyn said:
Those images are readily available to everyone (ages 0 on up) waltzing in the malls of america - areas which have FAR more young people and families than this community.

Oh and because none of this is at all objectifying.

http://www2.victoriassecret.com/com...F-192138&page=4&cgname=OSSLPPJSZZZ&rfnbr=1721

http://www2.victoriassecret.com/col...1&cgname=OSSLPPJSZZZ&cgnbr=OSSLPPJSZZZ&page=3

I'm sorry but inviting people into your "pink love cabin" is far more objectifying than a cute model dancing.

Also - this is an online gaming forum, but jender's sig is acceptable? Please explain.
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Again, you didn't answer my question. What does a lingerie catalog that you see online at a Victoria Secret site, at a SHOPPING mall where you buy clothes and or lingerie have to do with showing lingerie in an avatar on an FFXI GAMING forum?
 
jender said:
My sig is me objectifying myself....not others. Why can't you see a difference?
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I don't care about that - it's the fact that it's more explicit than a girl dancing and showing a little skin.

Also in this day and age, when people do objectify themselves so often, wearing things like I linked to, and other shirts that may as well say "I am a Whore" in the name of fashion, I have a hard time seeing why people are so amped up about a animated .gif showing about the same amount of skin as a victoria secret model.
 
Kat said:
Again, you didn't answer my question. What does a lingerie catalog that you see online at a Victoria Secret site, at a SHOPPING mall where you buy clothes and or lingerie have to do with showing lingerie in an avatar on an FFXI GAMING forum?
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Both are public arenas - thus the comparison, since it was brought up that 'young people' view the sight and could be horribly damaged by seeing such a terrible thing. The same young people who go to malls, I don't think there are more than 20 malls in America without a VS store in it.

So to answer your question again - the same lingerie adds online are the ones you see in store, IRL, and are thrust in your face when you go to purchase shoes for your kids and walk by. Somehow this is more acceptable than a picture exhibiting about the same (or less) sexual content in another public area.
 
Raivyn said:
I don't care about that - it's the fact that it's more explicit than a girl dancing and showing a little skin.
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How can you tell she was cute - could you see her face?
 
jender said:
How can you tell she was cute - could you see her face?
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Yes, she is a japanese model who is often even more nude. She has a very attractive face.
 
Okay here's the difference. A parent can shy away from a VS store when they have their child with them. A parent can block a VS site on a computer. BUT, why would a parent want to block a FFXI gaming site? Unless of course, they started looking at the avatars of half naked girls in certain peoples sigs and or avatars eh?

Think about it ...
 
Kat said:
Okay here's the difference. A parent can shy away from a VS store when they have their child with them. A parent can block a VS site on a computer. BUT, why would a parent want to block a FFXI gaming site? Unless of course, they started looking at the avatars of half naked girls in certain peoples sigs and or avatars eh?

Think about it ...
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Considering not many 13 year olds play this game, it's not too much of a problem. Also considering the average age at which an american loses their virginity is now 13 - I think parents have bigger problems than that.

Also - even with no pictures, would you want your 13 year old kid coming up to you and asking you to explain Jender's sig?

"Mommy how do you drink fluids out of somebody?" Oh that would be just fine and dandy I suppose, right?
 
I honestly don't think a child would even think to ask about it. It would go right over their heads. Unless you've actually had oral sex, you wouldn't think anything about it.

That's my honest opinion on the subject.
 
Raivyn said:
Considering not many 13 year olds play this game, it's not too much of a problem. Also considering the average age at which an american loses their virginity is now 13 - I think parents have bigger problems than that.

Also - even with no pictures, would you want your 13 year old kid coming up to you and asking you to explain Jender's sig?

"Mommy how do you drink fluids out of somebody?" Oh that would be just fine and dandy I suppose, right?
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Would it fix the boo-boo if I removed my sig quote? No one else seems to be bothered by it (unlike your pic), but if it would make YOU feel justified...
 
In my experience children are extremely inquisitive - it is well within the realm of possibility that this would happen.

But alas - it is taboo to show images of scantily clad ladies but it is perfectly fine to openly discuss oral sex in a public forum.
 
"Mommy how do you drink fluids out of somebody?"

Well, when you were just a little baby, mommy used to let you drink some super milk to make you all big and strong and to protect you from all the nasty little germs that make you sick.

Something like that?
 
jender said:
Would it fix the boo-boo if I removed my sig quote? No one else seems to be bothered by it (unlike your pic), but if it would make YOU feel justified...
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I honestly don't give a crap about either - I would just prefer people remove their heads from the sand and develop some consistency is all.

Revealing clothing = not ok.

Comments about oral sex = ok.

Dancing women = not ok.

Lingerie adds = perfectly acceptable.

I can't be the only person wondering "wtf?" right now.

Btw - the only reason I was aksed to remove the .gif is because animated .gifs cause lag in forums.
 
Raivyn said:
In my experience children are extremely inquisitive - it is well within the realm of possibility that this would happen.

But alas - it is taboo to show images of scantily clad ladies but it is perfectly fine to openly discuss oral sex in a public forum.
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You exchange fluids when you kiss... Doesn't have to be oral sex; and it's not really that open.
 
Answa~ said:
"Mommy how do you drink fluids out of somebody?"

Well, when you were just a little baby, mommy used to let you drink some super milk to make you all big and strong and to protect you from all the nasty little germs that make you sick.

Something like that?
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Oh the parent teacher conferences that would ensue;

"I brought you here today because johnny wanted laura to drink his "super milk""

no point in rationalizing it. It's just as wrong as a half-naked dancing asian girl.
 
Answa~ said:
You exchange fluids when you kiss... Doesn't have to be oral sex; and it's not really that open.
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And neither is the forum.
 
Answa~ said:
You exchange fluids when you kiss... Doesn't have to be oral sex; and it's not really that open.
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/em exchanges fluids w/ Answa

Take it for what you will ;) hehehe
 
Raivyn said:
I honestly don't give a crap about either - I would just prefer people remove their heads from the sand and develop some consistency is all.

Revealing clothing = not ok.

Comments about oral sex [edit]its implied, but not actually said, thus could be taken anyway[/edit]= ok.

Dancing women [edit]with their boobs hanging out[/edit] = not ok.

Lingerie adds [edit]where are they on this website?[/edit] = perfectly acceptable.

I can't be the only person wondering "wtf?" right now.

Btw - the only reason I was aksed to remove the .gif is because animated .gifs cause lag in forums.
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just fixed a few things to clarify what I think jender has been trying to get at.
 
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