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Flame god up in dis shit
In order to make my previous post not so "devoid of content":
I'll tell you right here, not many people on here rate you down for your bad grammar. People berate your grammar because there are other things about you that you refuse to acknowledge.
People rate you down because you're a very hard headed individual. Your posts are not devoid of content, you may speak very loudly about something. the problem is, it's usually wrong, or at the least, biased.
The problem is not that you post wrong information, it's that you demand "debate" and "discussion" yet when someone attempts to debate your information you just reiterate what you said before.
your only answer for anything I've ever seen you debate on this forum is "no you're wrong *same reasons posted before*"
In order to make my previous post not so "devoid of content":
I'll tell you right here, not many people on here rate you down for your bad grammar. People berate your grammar because there are other things about you that you refuse to acknowledge.
People rate you down because you're a very hard headed individual. Your posts are not devoid of content, you may speak very loudly about something. the problem is, it's usually wrong, or at the least, biased.
The problem is not that you post wrong information, it's that you demand "debate" and "discussion" yet when someone attempts to debate your information you just reiterate what you said before.
your only answer for anything I've ever seen you debate on this forum is "no you're wrong *same reasons posted before*"
You do realize that theres also people that just plain don't care enough to rate others down, right? Just because you get rate downs from generally the same people doesn't mean only they absolutely have it out for you and there's secretly an entire population of adoring Hellstorm fans. Those are probably just the people that use the rep system the most and are the most active users in general. Heck, I've seen many, many posts I'd consider stupid but I probably haven't even given out five rate-downs.First off only red dots i get is from the so called "flame gods" and there lackies.
Well if you would not continue to turn my word around in a way i didn't say would not have to keep repeating myself.This is all you need to know, yet you will still respond with, in a slightly evolved form, "no u"
You don't understand the concept of debating, debates do not consist of two people constantly repeating the same two points over and over. They consist of two(or more) people voicing opinions, conceding points, modifying their arguments, supporting their arguments with factual information, and revoicing their (now modified) opinions, in a different, more convincing way.
So, "hellstom", you should; A. Learn to properly debate. (Maybe you should do A, in addition to B or C) B. Admit your mistakes(i.e. massive amounts of hypocrisy) and attempt to fix them, and maybe, by some miracle, re-establish yourself as some sort of useful individual in the community, or C. Just cut your losses, burn the bridges, and leave. There's a few realistic options for you to kick around the ol' noggin for a while.
Yes, I have rated you down for poor grammar, but I have also rated you down for poorly constructed and executed posts, and also for posts with inaccurate, misleading, or downright useless information.
You have then retaliated by rating down my posts for no reason other than the aforementioned "no u" reasons.
And Excim, you're Vil's bitch, admit it. =p
Actually I don't bring up red mage melee in most cases, though keep posting stuff like below I just might. There was only suppose to be 2 threads about the subject. However if you going to try to use as a retort like KB did in the necro flame I will go along and tell you why his quote to be funny was wrong. The other 2 other then the 1 that was a rdm melee discussion where suppose to be short comment about the op and what jobs could be tanks. I never even wanted to start a big discussion nor a flame on them. If you don't want me to talk about rdm melee stop throwing it at me. As for stubborn yes ill admit to that, and ill be much more stubborn to people that don't show etiquette like mr. bara up there. Some of my topics may be controversial and some what out there, but that why I pick them. Also let you in on a big secret that you might of missed through all the rdm bashing, I don't even melee in parties. The topic was suppose to be about how rdm could be melee job and that there has been proof shown that the can make a decent dd if properly geared. It was never suppose to be let's change the red mage job, but that rdm can do it, and in some party set up it would actually be a better exp per hour session. Except every post, they can't put up the numbers of a warriors. If you going keep taking my words out of context you leave me no choice then to reword in a different way that you would get.Hellstorm, I will have to say that you get alot of red dots from because of:
1) your constant bringing up the same points when it comes to a RDM meleeing or tanking.
2) your blatant stubborness when it comes to defending your points.
3) your incoherent posts due to the English language getting slaughtered.
4) all of the above.
Now honestly, because of one of these or all of the above, people's patience has worn down greatly to the point where they will down you at whatever chance they get.
They do so because they get enjoyment out of it because they know you will always retaliate.
Perhaps if you refrain from posting for a while and not rate other people down out of spite, people may leave you alone. You don't have to come here. Like the game, you can take a break from this forum as well.
Or you can post some sensible things that people cannot rate you down for.
As long as you are careful with what you post like Pompidou said, then there should be no ammunition for the people who don't like you as well as the bandwagoners to use.
Careful guys, we don't want another Rdm mell thread.
Its so hard sometimes.
You know, I mean, figuring out who the trolls are and all...
Can't we all just take the high road and, if not get along, ignore each other.
Jamal - Weren't you quitting these boards and made a huge stink when you left?
There are only two things that really bug me on this board.
The constant public ridicule about the mods who volunteer their time to make this site run well and the constant derailing. Discussing RDM melee in a topic about A) Unconventional melee B) Unconventional Tanks C) BATTLE MAGES!!!!! is fine, how often you bringing it up at every opportunity outside of these topics is not fine. I don't know why you can't be more like Helius who got his ass kicked on the FB, learned his lesson and stayed away - with the post he made his rep could of been shot to shit but instead he realized that it wasn't a battle he was going to win and managed to walk away with his rep intact. Everyone who was jumping on his balls in his FB posts left him alone elsewhere. Your posts aren't half bad outside of the FB (as someone mentioned earlier - average) however it's just stupid for you to keep coming back here. I almost NEVER rate down (maybe 2-3 times total now) and I have been very, very tempted to rate you down on multiple occasions. I don't know why you can't just pull up your pants and walk away.
I made one post, which everyone else turned into a big stink. I posted it in good times, and it turned into a flame. Know your material before posting.
I do volunteer work as well, and if it was subpar I'd get asked not to comeback. Miros and Arc Set the bar at a certain level by how they handled past situations. Now they must stick to those levels they've set.