help settle a debate on "RARE"

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Specifically the Fomor Codex. Can you hold more than one?
 
No. If its RARE (Rare) you can only hold one. If its EXCLUSIVE (Ex), its cant be tradded. If its RARE/EXCLUSIVE,(Rare/Ex) you can only hold one and it cant be traded. (Like AF for example.)

Fomor Codex are rare, so only one can be held. But it can be sold/traded.

Beastmen Seals are Exclusive, so they cant be traded, but arent rare so you can hold more than one.

AF is Rare/Exclusive and cant be traded or have more than one.

(I dont know if it applies to whats in your MH. I know you cant get another Empress Band or Chariot Band, because even if you leave your first one in your MH, the game knows and wont give you another.)
 
Its rare... that is the whole POINT of rare is you can hold only one... Your not Alanon... who the hell are you.
 
Direwolf said:
Its rare... that is the whole POINT of rare is you can hold only one... Your not Alanon... who the hell are you.
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LOL, this is me. I fall on the side of holding only one. Got into a discussion with another Bst who says he's gonna farm codexes for gil. Says he's gonna farm like 10 at a time and bazaar em all. I told him he can only hold one at a time, but I don't know what I'm talking about. More looking to build a case with this thread than anything.

If I didn't like the guy, I'd simply let him suffer through the drop rates till a second one dropped and he has to watch it be lost. :P
 
In some cases, Rare items simply don't drop if there's nobody in the solo/party/alliance capable of receiving them at the time. (Even if they planned to invite someone else to lot.)

Rare only counts your inventory, mog safe, storage, and mog locker by the way. Which, while it seems like a rather exhaustive list, notably does *not* count your mogmail outbox, your mogmail inbox, or the stuff you have listed on AH.

Of course, things you can't send by mogmail and things you can't sell on AH, this doesn't help you with. :P
 
Vilurum said:
In some cases, Rare items simply don't drop if there's nobody in the solo/party/alliance capable of receiving them at the time. (Even if they planned to invite someone else to lot.)

Rare only counts your inventory, mog safe, storage, and mog locker by the way. Which, while it seems like a rather exhaustive list, notably does *not* count your mogmail outbox, your mogmail inbox, or the stuff you have listed on AH.

Of course, things you can't send by mogmail and things you can't sell on AH, this doesn't help you with. :P
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I am not sure that is so true. I was killing gobs solo in oldton movapolis and I had a key already. I got a second key to drop which I thought was technically impossible since I already had one and although it did drop, it immediately lost. I thought it was a mistake, but it actually happened twice there; however, I've never seen it happen anywhere else.

But, yah, if your friend tries, he/she will never get a second as long as that fomor codex is in the inventory and you cannot mule codexes either. If the BST was to party and another dropped, the BST would see it in pool (provided someone doesn't own one), but never be allowed to lot it unless the first was dropped, traded or sold in bazaar.
 
I think it was recently changed so that stuff can still drop even if you have.
 
I wasn't aware that "some" had the same meaning as "all". XD
 
Lavi said:
I am not sure that is so true. I was killing gobs solo in oldton movapolis and I had a key already. I got a second key to drop which I thought was technically impossible since I already had one and although it did drop, it immediately lost. I thought it was a mistake, but it actually happened twice there; however, I've never seen it happen anywhere else.

But, yah, if your friend tries, he/she will never get a second as long as that fomor codex is in the inventory and you cannot mule codexes either. If the BST was to party and another dropped, the BST would see it in pool (provided someone doesn't own one), but never be allowed to lot it unless the first was dropped, traded or sold in bazaar.
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in SOME cases, rare still does drop. Namely testimonies and keys.

Dunno how many times we've been through this <.<;
 
i think that "ex" tag makes it still drop. but whats to debate? you can only hold one rare. if you are fighting a mob that drops a rare item and you already have it it will not drop again unless a person with you doesnt have it or if it has an "EX" tag on it.
 
The old trick was on the BC60's for Torques if you had one in your inventory or Safe that one wouldn't drop. Keep the crap ones, force good ones to drop every time. Dunno how long ago but that one has been fixed. Did this trick extend anywhere else or only Torques or only BCs or what?

I've noticed in my farming it's seems to be like Uzor says. Ever after everyone has a coffer key they will still occasionally drop. But with normal Rare items it seems like once everyone has one either another won't drop at all or it will drop very very rarely. With TH2 we get a fair amount of mobs that drop NOTHING after a while which would lead me to beleive it was possibly going to drop the Rare item everyone already has, sees everyone has it and says "Nah, we were going to drop just item X but since everyone has it you all get nothing".
 
Is my duo partner talking crazy talk Alanon?
 
Case #1

Go pop Bubbly Bernie.

Steam Clock doesn't drop, if you have it in inventory, mog house, storage, moglocker.

Case #2

BCNM20, Shooting Fish.

went to do it with my friend, we both had Mannequin Head in inventory.

Mannequin head, 100% drop otherwise, didn't drop.


### Both parts are rare.

Have someone in party without the item (and one with), it will drop. Tried in both cases above.

Rare/ex will drop regardless, however, as seen in tests and keys and other quest items, although, interestingly to note, I was farming in the Delkfucutt Tower Upper, and fought that NM that drops the mission 3-3 keys, I had one in inventory, but when I killed it (twice, for fun) no keys dropped at all, whereas it normally drops 6, I believe. What I just said is true, because I was there 1 hour ago farming, so this is "Fresh" news. ^^
 
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