Hey peregrine!

There's always tomorrow. If I were you though, I'd reserve my manaclipper today. Later, kiddo.
 
Peregrine said:
There's always tomorrow. If I were you though, I'd reserve my manaclipper today. Later, kiddo.
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i dont think you understand how much work it takes the set up a FULL BLM SHELL! stop kidding yourself pere. Yes it's going to be ruff the set up something new, give it time the get established before you start moching it. Yet again you totally went derailing the thread :rolleyes: grow up bish, and take your shitty thf skills elswhere.
 
seriously, Peregrine.. just cause Odon's shell hasn't gotten on its feet yet (Which it is only about 2-3 weeks old) and our server sucks ass with people and commitment (seriously.. our server got the assload of greedy people that don't want to do something sometimes if it doesn't benefit them or they are doing something they believe will benefit them more i.e. sky,HNM, missions, exping, whatever.) We've all heard how you make your LS so great and take all the credit but atleast Odon never has done that. He's never said he's the sole reason his KS30s get going and win.

Oh.. and shut the fuck up you stupid idiots about Odon's KS30 runs. HE GIVES YOU THE GOD DAMN CHOICE OF CHOOSING V.CLAW OR EVEN SPLIT!! It's not HIS fault 99% of the people are GREEDY and go for a V.Claw. And if you think an even split is bad you are just being greedy as fuck. You are still getting something for doing nothing with your orb. Just cause the BLM (who did all the work) are getting something too doesn't mean it is wrong. Shut the fuck up about that.. it's not a bad thing he does those at all and not unfair.

Anyways.. do you have anything to actually say about the thread's topic at all? or too pissed off that your bragging that BLM was gonna be nerfed was wrong!?
 
You see the logic for the BLM nerf fails in mainly one respect, and most Melee are way too blind to see this.

Shortened list, just for arguement's sake:

Paladin:
Defense: A+
Melee Damage: F
Magic Damage: F
Party Support: D (The ocasional Cure)
Survivability: B
Purpose: Single point of failure in Party/Defender.

Dark Knight:
Defense: C
Melee Damage: A
Magic Damage: D
Party Support: F
Surviveability: C
Purpose: Melee Damage, Skillchain.

Bard:
Defense: C
Melee Damage: F
Magic Damage: D
Party Support: A+
Survivability: C
Purpose: Enhance Party's abilities.

Thief
Defense: B (Evasion)
Melee Damage: C
Magic Damage: F
Party Support: F
Survivability: A+
Purpose: Hate control, Skillchain.

Black Mage
Defence: F
Melee Damage: F
Magic Damage: A+
Party Support: D- to C-
Survivability: F
Purpose: Damage.


Basically, Black mages don't do anything except for damage. they are not built for anythign else. Having a BLM nerf would be the same as having a PLD Defense nerf; it just doesn't make sense.

Why then did they nerf Ranger? Well I would assume it was for the reasons they gave the public, Paraphrased: the job was considered Melee, and it had an inhearant disproportionate advantage over other melee in it's Class. (WAR, DRK, SAM, DRG I.E. The Melee portion of the Damage Equation). So in order to bring balance to that Segment, it needed to be nerfed. Personally, I think they went too far.

What you tend to see later when you do things like fight HNM and what not, is the roles of the jobs. Melee is there to pretty much Set up the Skillchain almost Exclusively. As exclusively as it is the WHM's job to heal, and the BLM's job to do the Dmg...

After giving it more thought. I was trying to figure out why Thief wasn't 'enhanced more'. And I came to the conclusion that if Thief were enabled to do more damage that they would offset the party capabilities way too much. Remember, every point of damage a thief does is a point of damage every single DD can do in the Party. Thief TA's a Shark Bite for 300 damage in an Alliance with 8 Black Mages, that thief basically created a damage potential of 2,400 Damage. If thieves did TA 1,000 Damage, that's 8,000 Damage the rest of the party can do. And Since TA is a Subbable ability, that problem carrys over to all other melee, making Enhancing Melee with TA more of a problem than one would initially think.

When you think about things more, you start to see BLM is one of the Few jobs that is working 100% according to spec.

Ranger Nerfing on the other hand was only needed in the vane that they were delivering a paced 200+ damage a shot (Every ~4 seconds) Have Barrage, An insane TP gain, the ability to SC on moving targets. This was a severe imbalance. HOWEVER... Again... they went too far. Way too far.

There are other aspects to the Melee Field that people in general over look, they require a lot more skill and timing, but nothing like learnig how to lay out your first Skillchains in the dunes when you started the game. Melee can be severely Overpowered... If you know how...
 
Odon didn't fail. He won't fail, and if the LS fails it won't be his fault. Every week we take attendance and ask everyone on the roster if they can make it that week. Last week we got 95% of the BLMs on a yes vote, and 9 showed up. And they weren't just not there, they weren't online. You can't control people, nor can you blame others for the inability to be prompt.

Odon made a very well run shell, with a very good strategy. It's not easy to get 40 BLMs, whether they're not showing or not, it's not easy. It wasn't easy for me to recruit, nor was it for him. You don't know though, because you run a open roster dynamis shell with 45 melees and 20 mages unlike our shell which in the end would more than likely be 50 mages(40 BLM) and 15 melees(5 PLD, misc THF, RNG, NIN)
 
Odon imo why your shell didn't go so well was coz the first run your computer got owned D:
 
I think Friday seems to be bad for some XD I say Saturday!

umm..yay! :P
 
http://manaburn.adsoft.org/
A dynamis ls that consist a lot of blm, something where Odon is heading and doing very well in asuran.

results in his journal and has pawned Dynamis- Beaucedine i believe
http://www.livejournal.com/users/lordwafik/

and you just won windy??

I am sure if Odon has dedicated members, it will be a huge success.
GL odon.

There does not exist Peregine with logic...
Since day 1 where he pulled for Svina's dynamis jeuno, i knew how sucky he is overall.
 
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