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[Bavaria]

I'm gonna talk with arc over this one, but needless to say, its not a 10day RO for posting for a banned member. Bladewind got off incredibly light with a 10day RO, when in actuality it will be a 30 day ban.

Talk it over if you wish, however, it was a quote on Rappa's website. I couldn't care less who typed it, and nor should you. My beef is with Rappa.

 

[Makelith]

Talk it over if you wish, however, it was a quote on Rappa's website. I couldn't care less who typed it, and nor should you. My beef is with Rappa.

See my edit.

 

[Bavaria]

See my edit.

Thank you good sir.

 

[Rappa]

Sure, you missed three runs (the 23rd of November and the 14th and 21st of December) and attended six runs with us. You missed 1/3 of all of your potential runs. That's excluding all of the runs you showed up to late and we let you in or waited for you to enter.

Nothing in Jamal's relatively calm rant claims that you are a bad player either.

 

[Rappa]

Oh, also excludes the runs where you left early, since I don't track that either. And of course the runs where you arrived late AND left early. Maybe I should start tracking that for future reference...

 

[Bavaria]

The leaving early is moot. I told you when I joined, you said no problem, so piss off.

I entered Dynamis late, exactly once. It was a Sandy run. And I was late as I asked my Salvage group to run early in an attempt to get Chimax and myself there on time. Still not your fault, I get that, but nonetheless, once.

And I missed three runs. Two thursdays, which I did attend thursday runs following knowing I couldn't lot, and not caring. Clearly not out of greed, so musta been something else? And the Sunday I missed was the one after Insurrections Xarc, and I was travelling to my parents place for the holidays.

So in summary, I missed a run that couldn't be helped, I missed two runs and took my lotting penality that you dictated in the rules, without arguing about it, entered late once when I hadnt planned to come at all, and left early as per the agreement we made when I joined.

Answer the other questions please.

 

[Zaltana]

You're down a shitty dynamis shell, and up a good salvage group. I'm sure this Rappa fellow will understand.

who's this wiggler?

 

[Rappa]

And I missed three runs. Two thursdays, which I did attend thursday runs following knowing I couldn't lot, and not caring.

Incorrect. Your last run with Dumbamis was on the 7th of December. By the time you went "in the red" on Thursdays, you stopped coming completely. You went "in the red" on the 21st of December. Your "I'm ditching your shell" pm arrived on the 23rd of December. Stop trying to act like you did anything noble, as you did not.

Answer the other questions please.

You asked questions? All I saw was a mindless, incorrect rant.

 

[Myrrh]

Rappa, do you have records of everything? Like, are we going to see
Person 1 went afk at 9:35 pm for exactly 3 mins
Person 4 claimed he went to pee at at 10:52pm
Rappa went to the bathroom for 23 mins (Side note, don't eat those tacos again)

 

[Rappa]

And the Sunday I missed was the one after Insurrections Xarc, and I was travelling to my parents place for the holidays.

Oops, you're right. That means you missed 4/10 runs instead of 3/9. Thanks for the correction. Also my math was wrong on when you went "in the red" on Thursdays. It was on the 14th of December. The point still stands that you didn't attend a run without lotting privileges since you didn't come on the 21st.

 

[Rappa]

Rappa went to the bathroom for 23 mins (Side note, don't eat those tacos again)

Funny you should mention that, considering something similar has happened before. I always try to wait until I know there will be downtime to go though!

 

[Bavaria]

I know for sure I attended at the very least one run when I was 'in the red', cause I was setting my seacom and Chimax yelled to me saying "I thought you couldn't lot tonight", to which I replied, oh yeah! And erased it. No, I'm not trying to be noble, but I definately attended without being allowed to lot. Keep better "records" than your half assed spread sheet if you can't remember.

And yes, to be fair, I didn't ask questions. My apologies.

If you could though, please address:

- How Chimax receiving AF count towards my extensive drop list making me look like a loot whore.
- Why your BLMs not being able to do what I do, in any way, makes me an uncooperative player.

Basically, I left your shell, and you didn't want me to. That's what all this boils down to. I didn't like your shell and I left. I ran with you for 6-7 runs, missed a few runs due to other events, decided it wasn't for me, and left. If you're implying I took the loot and ran, fuck off. I got the BLM body and the MNK body. I can buy a black cloak on the AH and do the exact same thing as the BLM relic body, and I asked the other MNK in attendance 3 damn times to lot the other one before I did, which isn't much more use.

So basically, I joined your shell, tried it out, all things considered it wasn't working for me, and I left. Then the Q_Qing on your wall of shame started.

 

[Rappa]

I know for sure I attended at the very least one run when I was 'in the red', cause I was setting my seacom and Chimax yelled to me saying "I thought you couldn't lot tonight", to which I replied, oh yeah! And erased it. No, I'm not trying to be noble, but I definately attended without being allowed to lot. Keep better "records" than your half assed spread sheet if you can't remember.

What we do is no longer any of your concern. The spreadsheets are fine, maybe you misread one? Hell, maybe you missed more runs than I thought and somehow I accidentally accredited you for a run later in an update? Wouldn't be surprised, to be honest.

- How Chimax receiving AF count towards my extensive drop list making me look like a loot whore.

Well directly quoting you, Chimax "followed" you when you left. He wouldn't have left if you hadn't. Thus, the drops he got would still be benefitting the shell if it weren't for you. Like I said that should've been clarified better but wasn't. You're welcome to create an account and post a reply if you'd like.

- Why your BLMs not being able to do what I do, in any way, makes me an uncooperative player.

"Uncooperative" is someone who does whatever they want to rather than what they are asked.

Basically, I left your shell, and you didn't want me to. That's what all this boils down to. I didn't like your shell and I left. I ran with you for 6-7 runs, missed a few runs due to other events, decided it wasn't for me, and left. If you're implying I took the loot and ran, fuck off. I got the BLM body and the MNK body. I can buy a black cloak on the AH and do the exact same thing as the BLM relic body, and I asked the other MNK in attendance 3 damn times to lot the other one before I did, which isn't much more use.

So basically, I joined your shell, tried it out, all things considered it wasn't working for me, and I left. Then the Q_Qing on your wall of shame started.

Not really. You were always "above" the shell, "forgetting" runs and coming late or not coming at all. Things have improved in general since you left. We can enter on-time and we're doing fine without you aside from the aforementioned problems of a few blms thinking they were supposed to do things you did. That's easy enough to fix. I have no qualms with you leaving. Trying to act like you weren't a detriment to the shell with your attitude and actions though is pretty laughable, so I'm glad Jamal made that entry. Now you're getting exposure on qcdn as well, so hopefully other dynamis lses can see that they'd just be a "eh, if I have time for it I'll go" shell in your opinion.

Also, "Q_Qing" is a pretty lame term. Again, you're welcome to come post your side of the story rather than "Q_Qing" about it here. See what I did there?

 

[Bavaria]

Well directly quoting you, Chimax "followed" you when you left. He wouldn't have left if you hadn't. Thus, the drops he got would still be benefitting the shell if it weren't for you. Like I said that should've been clarified better but wasn't. You're welcome to create an account and post a reply if you'd like.

Chimax is a big boy, I didn't "take" him anywhere. His play times and schedule is pretty close to mine, so you figure it out. Either way, Bavaria received exactly two drops. One of which he actually commented.

"Uncooperative" is someone who does whatever they want to rather than what they are asked.

I don't recall ever once anyone in your shell, members, leaders, pullers, or tanks, ever having a problem with me doing crowd control for you. I do recall a couple of people, such as Jamal, getting pretty frustrated if a few mobs made it through the BLMs without a sleep landing. So try again, slugger.

Not really. You were always "above" the shell, "forgetting" runs and coming late or not coming at all. Things have improved in general since you left. We can enter on-time and we're doing fine without you aside from the aforementioned problems of a few blms thinking they were supposed to do things you did. That's easy enough to fix. I have no qualms with you leaving. Trying to act like you weren't a detriment to the shell with your attitude and actions though is pretty laughable, so I'm glad Jamal made that entry. Now you're getting exposure on qcdn as well, so hopefully other dynamis lses can see that they'd just be a "eh, if I have time for it I'll go" shell in your opinion.

I came late once, I missed three runs that we already went over, and then quit. How does that make me above the shell? I knew it wasn't going to change, because I wasn't going to pick Dynamis over Salvage, so I quit. What exactly is your problem with that? Do you honestly expect everyone who requests a pearl for your shell is going to absolutely love it and never leave? I did some runs, it didn't work for my schedule, and I left. As per my PM that you already quoted, I did so without being an ass either. I just simply said, I'm leaving.

Also, "Q_Qing" is a pretty lame term. Again, you're welcome to come post your side of the story rather than "Q_Qing" about it here. See what I did there?

I see what you did there. Your arguements are pretty weak, and you'd rather take this off the spotlight and onto your personal board. Well done.

I'll say it again. I joined. I tried it. It didn't work for me. I left.

You guys blew out of proportion the amount of drops I received making it look like I loot whored and bailed. False.

You guys are blaming me for an apparent situation you have with your BLMs running around getting killed. Which is something I didn't do. I did crowd control. And I did it well. Never once did anyone ask me to stop what I was doing, and why would you? Crowd control is fairly important in Dyna, and I was doing more than my fair share of it. So this "uncooperative player" bullshit, is you being pissed that your BLMs are trying to do what I did, are failing at it, and slowing you down.

Side note - I'm not knocking the BLMs of that shell. I actually got along with them really well. Sad Rappa is painting a picture of BLMs who need to be hand held and apparently can't play as well as the evil galka who stole the drops and left.

 

[Mirewen]

If Bavaria told you he was leaving and left (whether his friend left with him or not) that is a lot more "noble" than Chimax saying he was going to stay and not showing up (if I'm readin properly). Is Chimax on this "Wall of Shame"? He is his own person, no one can "make" someone do something. Surely following him out of the LS was of his own doing.

And

Funny you should mention that, considering something similar has happened before. I always try to wait until I know there will be downtime to go though!

TMI ._.;

 

[Rappa]

Well, I responded to your questions. Also, THAT PERSON THAT I'M CERTAINLY NOT POSTING FOR OR ANYTHING left you a reply on a site where he can actually speak since he cannot speak here. Bringing the fight here and away from him is pretty weak, "slugger".

Also again you missed 4 runs, not 3. Possibly 5 since you seem so sure that you were in the red when according to my records on file, you weren't. Missing over 1/3 of your runs makes you look pretty good to a prospective linkshell, "slugger".

Again, you were nothing but annoying and arrogant during your stay with us. Many members have stated that they are glad you are gone. I won't name names because it's not my place to speak for others who spoke to me privately. I stand by the post on our forum, you were not a team-player and not someone I would want to have around, "slugger".

My advice to you is that again, if you disagree with what has been posted about you on dumbamis.com, go make an account there and defend yourself rather than call out the person who made it (and seriously let's not kid ourselves here, that's what you're doing despite what you call it) on a forum where he can't reply. That's pretty lame, "slugger".

We can do this all day if you'd like to, "slugger". We all know you're just dodging the real target of your rant by posting here, "slugger". But if you're too cowardly to go and confront him, enjoy ranting here, "slugger". That's a pretty brave thing to do, "slugger". Am I as cool as you are now for using stupid phrases at the end of my sentences, "slugger"?

 

[Orinna]

I'm still confused as to why you needed all of QCDN to know how evil we are? Why didn't you just post and defend yourself rather than going on QCDN and starting drama. Who gives a shit if a ls you left has a thread on their forums about you? It's not like anyone from out ls came to QCDN and posted about how crappy we think you are.

Guess I just don't understand why this is here, and not there. Guess QCDN is serious business.

 

[Audino]

Well, I responded to your questions. Also, THAT PERSON THAT I'M CERTAINLY NOT POSTING FOR OR ANYTHING left you a reply on a site where he can actually speak since he cannot speak here.

Better be careful, disclaimers don't work. I tried that in my Amerie flame because I truthfully did post things on my own accord to support my own case and they disappeared anyway.

If Jamal's going to keep getting flamed, why not slap him on RO status so he can post, his posts can wait approval by a mod and then he can address the situation here instead of going back and forth between sites?

(yes, I said the J word)

 

[Bavaria]

I'm an idiot, and I've lost. Let's redirect the attention

My beef was directly with you. Its your shell, your site, and your officer. Thats why the beef was brought here. Because you're allowing my name to be posted on your site with a bullshit write up under it, for anyone in the community to see. Therefore, slugger, I brought it up here, for the community.

Trying to get me banned for something the mods already agreed was good to go though to shut me up, thats a nice touch.

Recapping one more time, then would love to hear what other folks think of this.

I joined the shell. I told Rappa I'd have to leave early almost every run. He agreed.
I received an AF item, that no one else had commented.
I received a free lot AF item, that I tried to give away.
I attended several more runs after that.
I joined a salvage group.
My attendance began to suffer as I couldn't juggle both.
I eventually had to make a decision, made it, and told him upfront I was quitting.
No harse words were traded between either of us.
A month after the fact, I end up on his wall of shame, portrayed as a loot whore, someone who wasn't a team player, and a person he community should watch out for.
I bring my beef here.
Rappa's defence thus far, (at least the only part that wasn't horse shit), was my attendance was weak. Which, I've admitted, after the first couple of weeks, it was. Hense why I quit. I don't like thinking I can't be relied on, and I also didn't want to leave my Salvage group. So I quit.

So folks, read my original quote, read my explaination, read Rappa's constant hammering home of the point my attendance sucks, read how he tries to redirect this back to his site constantly to get the attention off, and tell me this:

Do you think I really did anything wrong, by joining his shell, running with it, realizing it wasn't for me, then leaving?

 

[Audino]

I'm still confused as to why you needed all of QCDN to know how evil we are? Why didn't you just post and defend yourself rather than going on QCDN and starting drama. Who gives a shit if a ls you left has a thread on their forums about you? It's not like anyone from out ls came to QCDN and posted about how crappy we think you are.

Since normally people are inclined to lump in all members with just one's attitude, I want to clarify that I really don't agree with this. When you post something on a site that the entire public (guests with no login) can see, you're putting it out there for everyone. You can't really get mad if they bring it up elsewhere. I can maybe understand if it was hidden and someone within the shell copy/pasted, showed him, etc, but its not the case.

About the whole thing, idk, maybe I'm a defeatist about dynamis. I've been doing it for as long as I can remember being level 75 and I can understand since its now an age old event how its something people don't want to stick around for. I'm not going to lie either, I lol'd at the Wall of Shame because I'm a bad person and I laugh at bad things. /shrug. I didn't really know the terms of Bavaria leaving and never really cared enough to ask Rappa or Bavaria himself, whom I would have asked since the best way to get an answer is to ask the one that'd know best.