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Morcheeba said:
Yea whatever that means lol. I won't pretend to know shit about these types of ingame commitments as I have nooo interest.
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In Dynamis you set a comment to what you want to have as your main lot. (Limitless had it colour coded as well, not sure if others do that).
 
Mirewen said:
I hate you!! :dur:
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That's all I get? Last time I posted the Mirepig you didn't speak to me for like 3 months.:shok:

Bavaria said:
Glacier run, I was the only one there with BLM commented, and won the body by default.
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This.

A little clarification on what exactly "by default" means would be nice.
 
Bedwarmer said:
A little clarification on what exactly "by default" means would be nice.
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I'm ASSUMING this

Mirewen said:
In Dynamis you set a comment to what you want to have as your main lot.
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By Default = no one else bothered to "Comment" lotting interests on that piece therefore losing rights to the lot, first come first serve??

I'm ASSUMING lol.. I have to clarify myself so no one jumps on my ass about it.
 
Bedwarmer said:
A little clarification on what exactly "by default" means would be nice.
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He's saying he was the only BLM there with it in his lotting comment (which I don't know is true or not true), so when it dropped he lotted it uncontested.
 
Zyndara said:
He's saying he was the only BLM there with it in his lotting comment (which I don't know is true or not true), so when it dropped he lotted it uncontested.
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Get outta meh head woman!
 
Zyndara said:
He's saying he was the only BLM there with it in his lotting comment (which I don't know is true or not true), so when it dropped he lotted it uncontested.
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BLM in his comment makes the situation even worse in my eyes. Numerous times he's posted about BLM body being lol, and how a black cloak can do the same thing, but apparently not quite as well or it wouldn't have been commented.

Since part of Bravaria's platform here is how his drops were crap, the actual commenting of BLM in a body zone indicates, to me, that there was desire on his part to obtain the exact item he obtained. Kinda changes his argument a bit.

This begs my original question to Rappa, why was he allowed to lot in the first place with it being his first run?
 
Mirewen said:
Wut?! You disappeared :( Bedwarmer was on my friendlist, I wasn't lookin' for your Hunter!
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All my toons were in Baredrood! You even deprived me of witty back-and-forth in the WoW forums. I was crushed.
 
Morcheeba said:
Get outta meh head woman!
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Mwahaha!

Regarding the issue at hand, I'm pretty sure the biggest issue at hand is the joining of a shell, knowing the run times and what's expected of you, and showing the disrespect to the shell and its members of not bothering to follow through. Yes, sometimes things come up and situations change and you have to make choices. But you don't join a shell, largely not show up (or always come late and leave early), and then say "I didn't like it." How would you know if you almost never bothered to show up?

I'm not saying I exactly agree with a Wall of Shame, but I can see where a warning against someone who can't be bothered to show up or even to tell you when he'll be absent (especially in the jobs like blm/whm/etc.) is absolutely warranted from a leadership perspective.
 
Orinna said:
I'm still confused as to why you needed all of QCDN to know how evil we are? Why didn't you just post and defend yourself rather than going on QCDN and starting drama. Who gives a shit if a ls you left has a thread on their forums about you? It's not like anyone from out ls came to QCDN and posted about how crappy we think you are.

Guess I just don't understand why this is here, and not there. Guess QCDN is serious business.
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Bolded #1: Do you speak for everyone in your linkshell? You took a vote and after tallying said vote; were chosen to speak on behalf of all those in Dumbamis to say that Bav sucks donkey dong? I'm sorry, things like this just really irk me. I belive the only person/people that can speak for a linkshell are its owner(s). Might just be me *shrug*

Bolded #2: It's not serious enough for someone to voice a (albeit skewed and something I don't agree with) complaint, but serious enough to try to get into a catfight on the FB?

Redshift said:
Why is Rappa and Audino so obsessed with Mansin and Arros? You'd think they had stolen their pasaphires as little kids. It's cute and all, but I think they're taken guys.
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Wooo, yeah. That word again. I think we've all seen enough of that word, don't you?

When there is a lack of obsession (ie, "gee rappa you're a crappy troll" denoting that said person [Mansin/Frostedbutts/douchenozzle] is waiting for Rappa to reply to him. Not the other way around. Continuously posting awaiting some attention. Now, aside from crying wolf (as so many love to do around here nowadays), let me explain something to you:

When someone cries "obsession" or "stalker" when it clearly isn't the case, its one of two things. Either A) paranoia, or B) cry for attention. Sometimes (and I dont need to use an example here, do I?) its both. So, in summary: That was not a dis, you just made yourself look silly.
 
Javir:

My previous comment was not directed at you.

It was directed at people responsible for said 'Wall of shame.'
 
Out of all of that stuff that was posted while I was gone, only really one thing worth replying to...

"Why was he allowed to lot blm on his first run?"

When Bavaria/Chimax both joined, the shell was like two weeks old. While we technically did a couple runs in October, they were just small runs that we didn't even post about on the dyna-scheduling board. We were still small and still in need of members. At this time, we allowed all joining members to lot on their first run as incentive to get more people to join. Thus, we allowed them both to lot on their first run if they chose to do so. This was a good faith measure to our new recruits with the hopes that they would stay with us.

To all of the people who don't like the way I do things here, I don't really have any reply for you. It's not like this is the first flame I've ever posted in. Most people here by now know my posting style. I'm not going to change it to meet whatever standards you have. Call me "obsessed" or make claims of "serious business" or whatever makes you feel more important, I don't really care.
 
Rappa said:
This post doesn't even make sense or have anything to do with anything that anyone has said. Also I like how both of the no-name transfers don't even reply to the whole "dick around for a few months then disband" comment about their crappy broken shell. Just what this server needs, people criticizing linkshells when they all paid money and still couldn't even run their own.
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No-name transfers, crappy linkshell, ....

I watched this thread for some time, but the above is simply rubbish. First slandering Bav, and now a whole linkshell? The majority of people in Insurrection have been together for years, and we were far from 'crappy' or 'no-name'.

You seem to have forgotten Insurrection had a very successfull internal dynamis, running 2, later on 3 times per week.
But Insurrection wasn't limited to just dynamis, there was internal limbus, einherjar, etc. and of course a big focus on HNM. Like any other shell we had our ups and down, but overall it was a good and highly succesfull run.

That we in the end dissolved was due to a number of factors a lot of shells run into, a few members moving to greener pastures, some just bored of Hnm, and most just bored with the game itself. The ones that remained are together in a social, so who knows what'll go from there.
I can understand where your angerness comes from, but loosing (geared)members comes with the job. There is no reason to cry about it and keep a grudge over it. Even more so with an event shell, as peoples priorities generally are with their socials or HNM first.
On here and on titan I have seen plenty of members leave, but I can't blame my members, or slander their names for choosing to do something else in this game, move on, or quitting and nor should you. It is their playtime, their 15$/month, their choice.

That is why I don't see the reason about this mess, why cry, make a wall of shame thread, slander someones name, when said member didn't ninjalot, steal, or break your rules, he just choose to spend his time differently and inform you about it. Honestly, most players don't, they just disappear, or choose to go out with a bang. If you honestly feel that the fact he got 2 items during his stay is enough of a reason to put him on the 'wall of shame' then honestly I have nothing more to say to you.

Just get someone new, nuke that shame thread and move on. Yes loosing people sucks. Loosing geared people sucks even more. However as people move and go in event/shells, it is not worth the time creating a mess over it.
 
Oh also to Javir, there's no need to Print Screen anything. While I agree and have already stated that Jamal's WoS post wasn't completely accurate, I also didn't edit it at all either and have left the entire topic intact. I'm not changing my linkshell's rules or "hiding the truth" about anything as silly as all of this.
 
To all of the Insurrection fodder coming in here and complaining about what I said about your (now dead) linkshell... why is it apparently okay in your opinion for Arros and Mans.. er.. Frostedbutts to come in here and bash my shell but doing the same to your shell is not okay?
 
Miros said:
Man the more I read your posts on this board, the more I want to sever the ties. How can you sit there and try to put shame on Dino and Rappa about being very cocky and needlessly condescending when on your post we see:

This last quote just for some reason pricked me in a poor spot. I guess I'm just tired of hearing the whole pompous attitude of "Oh well I have co-lead shells and my farts smell better then yours." I basically came to that conclusion after reading the post and seeing all the cocky and condescending replies you had.
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So, finally you actually say something to me... just waited till you could post it when I tried to get you to talk to me yesterday.

I don't know if its because of the feedback thread, or from this. If the first, I'm sorry if that I strongly disagree with your view, but I have never lost respect for you over not agreeing. I've respected you so far that I talked to you privately and refrained from posting things I've wanted to say because of that respect, so I'm not sure how that came to be.

On this, ok, I was in a give them their own medicine sort of mood. Not the best way to portray myself? prolly not, but they obviously use it effectively and its tiresome. If making myself more aware that I shouldn't fight fire with fire in this regard, so be it. I have enough respect that since you bring it to my attention, as my friend, I'll listen. Only next time I expect a little respect back from you and approach me about it. Hell, I'd even publicly apologize about the tone I took. In this case the message stands.

Now, let me explain out a few of the quotes.

For all the parts where I said posts were a waste of time.. ok yuh, I didn't need to say that, I could have just as easily ignored they existed.

Kairiboo to you if anyone, I apologize. I was so frustrated with the tone of a few posts I felt passionately about that I steamrolled through this post. It wasn't right for me to comment the way I did. Just in case I'll make it a point to contact you in game and apologize.

I don't step back from harping on Rappa for calling Bavaria mindless, if you support him/her in this, that's not a concern for me.

When I said that I was trying to take Rappa seriously, I was sincere. I have said that Rappa made a good case, but I picked Rappa's stuff out because half of his posts take the attitude I called him out on. Again, the tone may have been wrong considering the tone of the rest of my post, and I apologize for the tone. There's no other way I could indicate for that part I was sincere without making it sound like sarcasm and generally asshole-ish.

Telling Bavaria that he should have approached Rappa or his officers wasn't wrong. Throwing the "no?" in there, I'll apologize for that, if that's what made it go over the top.

Quoting this next one again since this is most sensitive to explain why I can't see why it bothered you so much.

Anyhow, having co-lead several shells now, I can safely conclude that the unfortunate reality is that there are Bavaria's out there, and they suck. But when you run into this situation as frustrating and angry it can make you, the most you can do is note for others that "he walked after earning free lotted gear and is an ass wipe for being irresponsible with his attempt to be a part of the shell".
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The bold word is the only way I can see this phrase being in any way condescending, and even then I'm not sure its unwarranted. I felt that if I'm going to make a grand statement about players who display this quality, I needed to cite the angle I have seen it from the most. I figured that I would be questioned as to how I could possibly understand where Rappa might be coming from. I was trying to find a way to relate to Rappa and consequently Audino. Otherwise who am I to say anything? Who is anyone to say anything without experience?

I didn't post it that way to say "I'm better, so there". You took it that way, and that's not something I can fix beyond explaining it as I did above. If this is enough to disassociate yourself from me as a friend, then I find that disheartening and regrettable. I have nothing but respect for you as it stands now. I hope that if this hasn't changed your mind that you'll come and talk to me, I'll be online a little after 9pm est and I'm free to chat until 10-10:30 pm est. Might be on from work during lunch but those are the guaranteed times.
 
Javir said:
2nd biggest clique, I just don't get this. I see at least 4 people with it (late night, may have missed others), and I know Jamal would be a 5th (if he wasn't banned). Only thing to say perception is key, and while I can't judge for myself not knowing you all, the perception I've been given is that you guys get very cocky and needlessly condescending... even if you get your own foot in your mouth. I just want to say, as seemingly smart individuals, that you take to heart what each other says and how they act on your behalf.
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Actually there's more than 5 and there's even a moderator on our roster, how bout dat for sum shit? It goes back to a big joke amongst a bunch of friends and I when we had some little doggie point his finger at us screaming mod abuse and saying that we're all just one big clique. However, he was a part of the first and biggest "clique" that this board has. The difference was at the time was that if any of us had to trash someone, we'd do it where everyone could see. -.^

Redshift said:
Why is Rappa and Audino so obsessed with Mansin and Arros? You'd think they had stolen their pasaphires as little kids. It's cute and all, but I think they're taken guys.
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Here's a thing about message boards. When someone address you and then you reply, thats called a response. Its not called obsession. And way to steal Rappa's "taken" line. Shows how original you are. Are you sure that YOU don't need a pacifier?. Come on man, I know the words got two syllables, but its not super hard.
 
Audino said:
...when we had some little doggie point his finger at us screaming mod abuse and saying that we're all just one big clique. However, he was a part of the first and biggest "clique" that this board has. The difference was at the time was that if any of us had to trash someone, we'd do it where everyone could see. -.^
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Not to go off subject but I feel the need to say something here... Really not necessary. Especially since we're so big on not bagging people where they can't see or respond. And this whole thing's getting seriously old, Dino, I'm sorry. I know you were responding to Javir but it needs to die already.
 
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