How 'bout this weather?

Last winter was weird as hell. It was the first time I've ever woken up on Xmas and there was no snow on the ground. It was almost depressing. Then we had that huge snowstorm the day before Valentine's Day. That pissed me off, I had to go outside at 1 am and shovel snow so I could get my car out. Mother nature's being a bitch lol
 
Last winter was weird as hell. It was the first time I've ever woken up on Xmas and there was no snow on the ground. It was almost depressing. Then we had that huge snowstorm the day before Valentine's Day. That pissed me off, I had to go outside at 1 am and shovel snow so I could get my car out. Mother nature's being a bitch lol

Blame global warming? lmao
 
Blame global warming? lmao

Or maybe God's pissed off that I don't believe in him.

(paradox?)

Srsly though, this is what Gore was talking about with global warming though. I'm waiting for the ice caps to melt and flood every coastal city on Earth.
 
Or maybe God's pissed off that I don't believe in him.

(paradox?)

Srsly though, this is what Gore was talking about with global warming though. I'm waiting for the ice caps to melt and flood every coastal city on Earth.

Global warming has nothing to do with a front stalling over Illinois, parts of Indiana, Ohio, and Iowa. Global warming just says that in a billion years from now the planet will be so much hotter. I don't give a shit that we go up a minute amount in temperature a year. It's not noticeable.
 
Global warming has nothing to do with a front stalling over Illinois, parts of Indiana, Ohio, and Iowa. Global warming just says that in a billion years from now the planet will be so much hotter. I don't give a shit that we go up a minute amount in temperature a year. It's not noticeable.

Very true. I watched the weather channel during some of those storms, the parts over Chicago and Lake county were almost brick red. One of the really bad storms came at me and my mom driving back from my doc appt. The wind and rain got so unbelievably bad that we had to stop and park our car. Another of the storms with the bad lightning hit a tree in my best friends subdivision and blew it up, about 2 blocks away from his house. But, I'm glad its gone now.
 
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The football fields of the two highschools in town.
 
Damn, thats horrible. How far away is that from IN border?
 
We're about 2-3 hours away, give or take.

Hmm...not that far away. Bit of a drive, but not terribly far. The severity and frequency of these storms has almost made me believe in God.

Almost.
 
Global warming has nothing to do with a front stalling over Illinois, parts of Indiana, Ohio, and Iowa. Global warming just says that in a billion years from now the planet will be so much hotter. I don't give a shit that we go up a minute amount in temperature a year. It's not noticeable.

Wrong.
 
Very true. I watched the weather channel during some of those storms, the parts over Chicago and Lake county were almost brick red. One of the really bad storms came at me and my mom driving back from my doc appt. The wind and rain got so unbelievably bad that we had to stop and park our car. Another of the storms with the bad lightning hit a tree in my best friends subdivision and blew it up, about 2 blocks away from his house. But, I'm glad its gone now.

You don't even know what my parents did during the storm.

I'll tell you anyways. They took our RV from the dealership back to the camp grounds. It took them like 5 hours to get from Crystal Lake to Marsalles (SP).
 

How so? We had a system stall over us it's not all that common. Keep thinking that it was global warming though because Al Gore who is super cerial and can't win his home state think it's a big deal now.
 
How so? We had a system stall over us it's not all that common. Keep thinking that it was global warming though because Al Gore who is super cerial and can't win his home state think it's a big deal now.

First of all, it wasn't a system that "stalled" over IL. It was the remnants of an inland hurricane. The same inland hurricane that caused massive flooding in Oklahoma just a few days before. Once the storm made landfall in TX it moved into west TX and was carried back NE over OK which had plenty of heat and moisture in the atmosphere to cause the storm to re-intensify into a Cat I hurricane. After it dumped 10+ inches of rain in OK it continue to move NE, carried along by the upperlevel jet stream, into the Great Lakes Region.

Secondly, global warming and its effects on the climate have absolutely nothing to do with Al Gore or his politics. Nice ad hominem there though.

Global warming actually causes global cooling over most of the planet, with the exception of the tropics. As the polar icecaps melt, they dump millions of metric tons of freshwater into the oceans, which are saltwater. This causes a major disruption in the thermohaline conveyors of the world's oceans as well as disrupting the Hadley cell.

These conveyors are what drives the globe's climate and move air masses from place to place. Specifically in the Atlantic, the Great Atlantic Conveyor brings warm air north from the tropics, which brings heat and moisture to places like Europe and the eastern seaboard of the United States. Without this warm, moist air two things happen. One, temperatures plummet. Two, it becomes more difficult for storms to form since they are lacking both heat and moisture to work with. Also, it causes hurricanes to more intense in the northern hemisphere because all that warm water, and consequently warm/moist air, is stuck in the tropics. Hurricanes feed off warm/moist air. The more they have to work with, the strong they will be and the longer will last.

Also, as the icecaps melt, the amount of radiation from the sun that is reflected back into space decreases significantly, causing the global warming process to speed up. This dramatically affects the climate of each hemisphere since cold air masses form near the poles, above the respective ice packs, and are carried to the continents by the jet stream. No ice cap means no polar are masses. Without these "cold fronts," you can't have boundaries (areas where cold air runs into warmer air). This is especially crucial to the central United States since the vast majority of storms, and therefore sources of rainfall, form along boundaries.

So yes, global warming DOES affect the local weather. In all reality, "local weather" is a misnomer since the weather in a place half way around the globe affects the weather somewhere else.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwest_flooding_of_2007#Meteorological_synopsis

Tropical Storm Erin had only a small effect but adding moisture. I highly doubt that 4 days after Erin dissipated. If you read the Minnesota part it says Minnesota was being hit by rainfall on august 18th and 19th. This is the storm that developed then caught added moisture from Erin which helped fuel the storm on top of already humid and hot condition.

If you want a better source:

http://blogs.trb.com/news/weather/weblog/wgnweather/2007/08/full/ go down to August 16th the first day that the thunderstorm warnings appear. August 16th is the day Erin made landfall.
 
Global warming has nothing to do with a front stalling over Illinois, parts of Indiana, Ohio, and Iowa. Global warming just says that in a billion years from now the planet will be so much hotter. I don't give a shit that we go up a minute amount in temperature a year. It's not noticeable.

You sound like President Bush.
 
You sound like President Bush.

No I say this because we haven't gone up any. Do you honestly think there's a huge difference in 92 degrees and 93 degrees with 100% humidity?
 
No I say this because we haven't gone up any. Do you honestly think there's a huge difference in 92 degrees and 93 degrees with 100% humidity?

Do you realize that if the surface temperature of the ocean rises .5 degrees Farenheit, that adds enough energy to the atmosphere to equal 10,000,000 atomic bombs. The average hurricane has the energy equivalent of 1,000,000 atomic bombs. That energy has two places to go. More hurricanes or more intense hurricanes. A significantly less amount of energy goes into your average Midwestern thunderstorm so imagine how much more energy will be in the atmosphere if the global median temperature rises a full degree.
 
No I say this because we haven't gone up any. Do you honestly think there's a huge difference in 92 degrees and 93 degrees with 100% humidity?

You still sound like President Bush. :biggrin:

Do you know what the Global Average temperature represents?

Do you know how much of a change in temperature it will take to start to rapidly melt the ice caps?

And after you find that out, ask yourself this question. Is that 1 degree still the nothingness you previously thought it was?
 
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You still sound like President Bush. :biggrin:

Do you know what the Global Average temperature represents?

Do you know how much of a change in temperature it will take to start to rapidly melt the ice caps?

And after you find that out, ask yourself this question. Is that 1 degree still the nothingness you previously thought it was?

That 93 degrees in Illinois wont reflect at the Artic. What will effect it is the amount of sun light that gets trapped over the artic that isn't escaping from the atmosphere. Last time I checked that's a long fucking way for one air current to get from Illinois or any other state that isn't named Alaska to drift.

Global temperature fluctuations happen all the time. If it were that serious of a predicament the ice caps would be melting faster than they are right now. You want to know something interesting? The ice caps will melt gradually no matter what. I would be more fucking worried about our sun expanding more than global warming.

It's funny how people 10 years ago were afraid of a hole in the O-zone, but now they're blaming the atmosphere for keeping in too much UV because of our own faults.
 
Do you realize that if the surface temperature of the ocean rises .5 degrees Farenheit, that adds enough energy to the atmosphere to equal 10,000,000 atomic bombs. The average hurricane has the energy equivalent of 1,000,000 atomic bombs. That energy has two places to go. More hurricanes or more intense hurricanes. A significantly less amount of energy goes into your average Midwestern thunderstorm so imagine how much more energy will be in the atmosphere if the global median temperature rises a full degree.

Yet there's days where temperature raises by a whole degree sometimes even 5. Yes increasing temperature is so detrimental because you know it's completely unnatural. Like I said I don't give a fuck what happens thousands of years from now because of our faults. I wont be alive neither will my kids or anyone I know.

You want to solve this "crisis"? Start car pooling start using smaller cars that don't consume as much gas. Even better start taking trains and the bus so that way you don't even have to start your car.

By the way this wasn't the average Midwestern thunderstorm. They normally don't go a week or even 3 days. Hell it normally only rains for a day then we'll see about 2 weeks with out rain sometimes even longer because we'll get a giant down pour for 10 minutes which rolls into the streets because the ground is so dry it doesn't absorb all of the water or a light drizzle that isn't enough to even wet the grass.
 
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