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Just a quick question on how to get HQ goods...can someone explain to me how it works?

i just started smithing and its currently lvl 10, and reading about things it seems that only HQ things sell. So if anyone could just explain how i make HQ stuff then i would really appreciate it
 
Every time you do a synth, you have a certain chance of making HQ. The higher you are, the better chance you have of HQing.

At 11 levels above the cap: ~10%.
At 31 levels above the cap: ~25%.
At 51 levels above the cap: ~50%.

The day you synth on also matters. Synth on the day that is strong to your crystal, for example Windsday for an earth crystal, firesday for an ice crystal, etc.

Those jokers at SE even made the direction you face have an impact. Check out this compass, it explains things well.

Happy crafting!
 
i saw that...and got confused... the arrow crystal colour is the place you should be facing, what about the crescent one? and i get the day thing just a bit confused on the compass...thanks for clarifying about the HQing though
 
Hitaru said:
i saw that...and got confused... the arrow crystal colour is the place you should be facing, what about the crescent one? and i get the day thing just a bit confused on the compass...thanks for clarifying about the HQing though
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Arrows = Less Fails / More Success. The Crescent (or simply, colored ring) = More Fails but more HQs / Skill ups.
 
thanks... but on the arrows whats with the black bits?
 
Hitaru said:
i saw that...and got confused... the arrow crystal colour is the place you should be facing, what about the crescent one? and i get the day thing just a bit confused on the compass...thanks for clarifying about the HQing though
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Tiers, yes.

Moons/Days/Directions. Hell no.

These have no serious effect on HQ rates. Craft when you want to/feel lucky/have mats. It is not worth your time to wait around on theories.
 
Sanoske said:
Tiers, yes.

Moons/Days/Directions. Hell no.

These have no serious effect on HQ rates. Craft when you want to/feel lucky/have mats. It is not worth your time to wait around on theories.
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1/8 last full moon Iceday. 2/5 random thundersday yesterday. I concur with what sano said, although I will still keep trying over and over full moon / new moon.
 
jamal said:
1/8 last full moon Iceday. 2/5 random thundersday yesterday. I concur with what sano said, although I will still keep trying over and over full moon / new moon.
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Wanna try making me some Hq staves during a new/full moon? ^_^;
 
Sanoske said:
Tiers, yes.

Moons/Days/Directions. Hell no.

These have no serious effect on HQ rates. Craft when you want to/feel lucky/have mats. It is not worth your time to wait around on theories.
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I'd have to agree with Sano here. >_> Especially looking at his HQ repertoire. ;p
HQ'd a pair of Sha'ir gages (tier 0) recently. When I said it, someone commented "That's a funny moon phase to HQ".. and I cringed...........
 
Sanoske said:
Tiers, yes.

Moons/Days/Directions. Hell no.

These have no serious effect on HQ rates. Craft when you want to/feel lucky/have mats. It is not worth your time to wait around on theories.
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QFT!!
 
ok, so the way i face has nothing to do with it? as well as the moonphase and day i am on?
 
Hitaru said:
ok, so the way i face has nothing to do with it? as well as the moonphase and day i am on?
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Right. HQ tiers that Jojojo explained are the only thing WE KNOW FOR SURE are accurate. Everything else is pure speculation and rumors that have been going on for years, spewed out by some guy (Erunthalon or w/e) that wanted some fame. I've spend coutless hours testing every theories out there, not with 10 synths but thousands and I'm not the only one. These theories have been disproved many many times, yet most people still believe in them.

The reason is simple. They want to be able to say they are "good at crafting". They want to believe they can influence the synth outcome with controllable variables. The better you'd be at controlling those variables, they better you'd be at crafting. Unfortunately, crafting is pure luck (outside of the HQ tiers), it's all about playing the odds, it's a gamble. Admitting there's nothing other then trying that you can do about a synth is admitting you can't be good (or bad) at it. It's like lottery, no one is "good" at lottery, you're just lucky or not.

However, you can be good at crafting in other ways, like identifying what recipes will make you money, analyzing markets, controlling your cost, etc. These are all things that will make you a good crafter. But controlling the HQ output? Hell no.
 
Hitaru said:
ok, so the way i face has nothing to do with it? as well as the moonphase and day i am on?
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People have proved it works, people have proved it doesn't. There isn't a conclusive answer. If one side says facing a direction helps, and the other side says it doesn't matter though, I don't see a downside to following the compass...

I tend to believe that the day has an effect of breaks. Had too many good runs on the day of the crystal and too many bad on off days to discount it, but try it out and see what your experiences tell you. The great thing about low level crafting is that its so cheap, you can blow stuff up to your hearts content, and it won't cost you much. Experiment a bit and see what you find.
 
I have 6% succes on prism cape but since you can desynth them, after all the desynth yout get 10% : buy 10x the material and in the end you get one HQ.
 
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thanks for all the input ^^ will get to crafting now...hopefully i will gain some money rather than lose ^^
 
I used to follow the compass but it never worked. The day you synth seems to affect breaks though. Everyone will notice more breaks on dark days, and I notice breaks if I synth the same day as the crystal o,O.

Crafting is completly broken anyway, this comes for a player with 5 crafts at level 100 ( cooking, bonecraft, woodworking, fishing, chocobodig, and gold-87) and that makes more money by farming, lol!
 
The only reason I believe in the directions is if you look in the sky, you will see 8 very obvious stars, in the same color and in the same direction as the compass. I don't have any opinion about phases of the moon, but they do follow the moon phase in the Asian culture, so SE might make a big deal about it.
 
Those of you who are saying it was disproved, are you talking about the test on BG with the chocobo fletchings?

For those of you who don't know, they tested the HQ rate on chocobo fletchings on various days and moon phases and concluded that day/moon do not affect HQ rate. The only problem is that the tester was more than 90 levels over the cap. Even allakhazam knows that Tier III synths are not affected by day/moon, this was proved (sorta) with a 51-over test by Erunthalon.

We're discussing confidence intervals in my stats class right now, pretty soon I'll be able to know how many tests are required, and I will test this myself.
 
Ok... that post became invalid after you mentioned Erunthalon.
 
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