Hypocracy and deceit had a child. It's name was Jamal.

[Grandphoenix]

where'd this stupid shit come from? so what if someone was in BoL, that has nothing to do with anything here

Well someone gets it at least.

 

[Kotsu]

It's not about him being a firm lead in the LS or the item. It's him as a person. His hypocracy, his lies, his stating of an overly unappreciative opinion. Not to mention, it seems he's wronged people on more than a couple occasions. i may be reaching out a bit here but I doubt that the people who've posted here are the only people he's made miserable due to him simply being... him. If you want to start shit with someone, accept the consequences for your actions. There's no sense in him posting anymore because this many people can't possibly be making shit up. If you're looking at the quality of players in terms of the game, he is an exceptional FFXI player. If you're looking at the quality of the person, he's the lowest of the low on this server. Difference between me and him in saying he's a piece of shit is I'll say it to his face. I won't say it behind his back to someone in a PM.


@ Falsey: It takes a really man to admit when they did something wrong. For that reason, I apologized in my first post after RO and one of my posts before RO. As for him living in infamy, I could care less about infamy in a video game or message board. He lives off ego, off of attention. No doubt this sanction user status must piss him off, but at least he got attention from it. If I was him, I'd take the fuckin hint and just not sign onto QCDN anymore.

 

[Silenus]

i likh jamal he does flameboards and doesn't afraid of anyone

 

[Rappa]

And there is a huge difference between quitting the game and quitting an end game activity after obtaining items. Nor do you really have any position to talk on that matter, some of your close friends did the very same or worse. Right, Rappa?

I left Purpose because the leader of the shell attempted to give one of my good friends an STD and then immediately afterwards broke up with her and booted her from Purpose. Not that it's any of your business, but that's not the type of person I want to associate with. The second said person quit the game and the shell reformed under new leadership, I was immediately back in again. Nice try though.

 

[Kotsu]

i likh jamal he does flameboards and doesn't afraid of anyone

This sentence is as bad as Falsey's double negative earlier X.x;;

How could someone be afraid of another person on here? This is the fucking internet. We chose who we want to be on the internet because of the aspect of anonymity. Some people stay who they are... Some people become someone entirely different. I want to believe that Jamal RL and IG is very different then he is on QCDN. So far though, on QCDN and IG he's appeared to be the same asshole. However, that's internet-Jamal. He could be, and hopefully is, a good or even great guy RL. Unfortunately, that's not who I/we're dealing with here. If people, after reading the multiple threads about him, decide to stick with him then that is on them. He will eventually rub them the wrong way. My hopes are, as ridiculous as it may be, he realizes what mistakes he's made and he becomes a better person for it. If not, that's life. I can't control another individual. I also, though, shouldn't have to deal with someone who has proven time and again his low quality of character. It's a detriment to our community to condone and support behavior like his has been.

 

[Kotsu]

I left Purpose because the leader of the shell attempted to give one of my good friends an STD and then immediately afterwards broke up with her and booted her from Purpose. Not that it's any of your business, but that's not the type of person I want to associate with. The second said person quit the game and the shell reformed under new leadership, I was immediately back in again. Nice try though.

o.o;; holy shit <---- that's the best response I have other than agreeing with your course of action.

 

[Auron X]

First off Zethren was incorrect or whoever talked shit about me at that King V. Shakenbake wasn't fucking killing that King V so how the fuck was I supposed to make gunner(who was trying to get into Insurrection at the time and was there with other insurrection people) give it back to Kaizen when Insurrection was the group in charge? Yeah I won't lie I was still in party from the teleport-altep so I was dragged in but in the end Kaizen fucking got it back. I had no authority to go hey desan and gunner give back the King V. Even though later Insurrection did in fact give it back so there is no point in even bringing that up.

Don't fucking bring up facts you have no idea about. Gunner did receive a warning for that and was actually kicked last night after he did that shit again. One more thing, you don't see Insurrection complaining about losing a King V when their King V went yellow and Pers voked it(which is what happened when gunner voked Zethrens yellow King V).

 

[Kotsu]

I'll apparently have to post the Zethren PM again as it's been deleted from the photobucket account. I thankfully saved all these images on my hardrive on my computer at home. GunnerX joined your linkshell July 20th under the pretense of being one of your good friends, with a vouch of character from Amidamaru. I'll get the Zethren PM and check the date it was sent to clarify what you've said. If it doesn't, of course, it only further proves my point. It's good to have liars at the top; they know what to say without remorse to give you a false sense of security. If the PM was prior to July 20th though; I accept the fact that I was wrong and will offer you the apology for the slam of your character.

 

[Auron X]

I'll apparently have to post the Zethren PM again as it's been deleted from the photobucket account. I thankfully saved all these images on my hardrive on my computer at home. GunnerX joined your linkshell July 20th under the pretense of being one of your good friends, with a vouch of character from Amidamaru. I'll get the Zethren PM and check the date it was sent to clarify what you've said. If it doesn't, of course, it only further proves my point. It's good to have liars at the top; they know what to say without remorse to give you a false sense of security. If the PM was prior to July 20th though; I accept the fact that I was wrong and will offer you the apology for the slam of your character.

Gunner was in Shakenbake at the time of the King V event...but he wasn't camping it with any relation to ShakenBake at the time he was camping it with Insurrection you can ask Kyumo how many months/weeks he has been after Ace's helm and after last night he stole SnBs king V and gave it to insurrection and he was promptly kicked and I haven't talked to him since, since what he did was a dick move and he chose gear over his friends.

 

[Kotsu]

The betterment of the shell means that the drops should upgrade LS members.

Can't upgrade LS members if you just bounce out of a shell getting [one of the good pieces] for DRG. It's a pretty shitty thing to do. People that don't camp and grab an N.head from a HNM ls and just stop showing up all together usually don't get much respect. Hollie shouldn't expect anything other than that.

I understand what you mean, and yea rightfully the mail might be Hollie's, but it's an integrity thing. If you don't show up, and get something you want, then just leave ... you know what I'm getting at.


Once again ...


Integrity.

Gunner was in Shakenbake at the time of the King V event...but he wasn't camping it with any relation to ShakenBake at the time he was camping it with Insurrection you can ask Kyumo how many months/weeks he has been after Ace's helm and after last night he stole SnBs king V and gave it to insurrection and he was promptly kicked and I haven't talked to him since, since what he did was a dick move and he chose gear over his friends.

That's all I'll bother posting from GunnerX. I think these only further back my point I said about him, as far as the attacking went on Hollie. Assuming things did in fact go the way you stated, then I retract my addition of your name in that post (I can't edit, but y'know -.-;; ). I'm sure you understand my confusion considering the time lines of the evidence I had.

 

[jamal]

Just a note to Bluefrost and Nycon...in the last Support and Feedback thread that you brought up me changing the visitor messages, I did post an apology. However, it was never shown as I need approval to post there as well because of my status.

Despite what you may think, I am sorry for that. It was over the line but my attention was never to try to hurt you as people. It was to exploit the forums as I had been put on read-only status for defending my friends' accounts getting deleted. Again though, my apologies.

Kotsu, I was well-aware you knew that I was saying what I was. I never intended it to be ' behind-the-back'. When have I ever hidden my feelings for someone. I copied you on some of the PMs as well. If you really think it was that big of a deal that it was behind your back and not in the open, then I apologize as well. I don't talk behind people's backs. If I'm going to say something in private, I'm more than capable of saying it publicly.

Frankly, these threads have simply been a place for people to vent about me, and clashing with those who actually do know me. The people who do know me are here because they know I'd do the same for them no questions asked. I'm loyal to people, and give them the benefit of the doubt until something changes that. I'm just as passionate about positive things as negatives, it's merely the negative ones that get the attention.

 

[jamal]

My friends' threads getting deleted* not accounts

 

[Nycon]

Just a note to Bluefrost and Nycon...in the last Support and Feedback thread that you brought up me changing the visitor messages, I did post an apology. However, it was never shown as I need approval to post there as well because of my status.

Despite what you may think, I am sorry for that. It was over the line but my attention was never to try to hurt you as people. It was to exploit the forums as I had been put on read-only status for defending my friends' accounts getting deleted. Again though, my apologies.

Thank you. I'm sure it took a lot for you to post the above. I appreciate the apology and I'm sure Blue will too.

 

[jamal]

Just as proof of what i said, it was approved and probably overlooked, this is from the thread i was talking about in support and feedback:

That was over-the-line and I apologize. Chat box isn't a good idea around me, at least with a post I can read it over a few times to make sure it's a good idea to post...chat box I see a response (Like Nycon's to what I was currently arguing about) and I post the first thing that comes to mind.

Again, I'm sorry, but I have been punished accordingly.

 

[Kotsu]

Just a note to Bluefrost and Nycon...in the last Support and Feedback thread that you brought up me changing the visitor messages, I did post an apology. However, it was never shown as I need approval to post there as well because of my status.

Despite what you may think, I am sorry for that. It was over the line but my attention was never to try to hurt you as people. It was to exploit the forums as I had been put on read-only status for defending my friends' accounts getting deleted. Again though, my apologies.

Kotsu, I was well-aware you knew that I was saying what I was. I never intended it to be ' behind-the-back'. When have I ever hidden my feelings for someone. I copied you on some of the PMs as well. If you really think it was that big of a deal that it was behind your back and not in the open, then I apologize as well. I don't talk behind people's backs. If I'm going to say something in private, I'm more than capable of saying it publicly.

Frankly, these threads have simply been a place for people to vent about me, and clashing with those who actually do know me. The people who do know me are here because they know I'd do the same for them no questions asked. I'm loyal to people, and give them the benefit of the doubt until something changes that. I'm just as passionate about positive things as negatives, it's merely the negative ones that get the attention.

The only one that really rubbed me the wrong way was sent to Khidir only, not to me. It was this one:

Kotsu was cool with me. I'm telling you not to let them in, because they're a level of shit along the level of gilbuyers and botters.

If we do come into contact with your group and they are there, do not expect me to let anyone hold back.

Letting them come with will drop my level of respect for you immensely as well. There's no ifs ands or buts about it, they're fucking trash.

I'm sorry shit went this escalated, and am most sorry for getting into your personal business. I'm sure you understand where I'm coming from; the feeling that if you'll say something like that to one person you'll say it to another. Pissing me off even further when literally I've done nothing but help other people the last year or more I've played this game. The only gain I've gained is my ninja made it to 75 while helping my brother and sister-in-law get 75 x.x (expensive fucking job man...). Anyways, I'm sure it's all behind both of us, we can forgive and forget this shit (I hope). I've taken you off of my ignore list on here as well so I can see your posts. If it's behind us both, I'll request a mod to lock this. Let me know here and I'll send Miros and Audino the message.

I thank you for apologizing the Nycon and Bluefrost too. I really want my original posts to be proven wrong about you man.

 

[Grandphoenix]

I hope you guys know while all this bickering was going on the Shadow Lord was readying his massive kindred army to win the crystal war!

 

[Orinna]

Ok, I stayed out of this for as long as I could. But the more I read, the more my blood boils. These "I hate Jamal b/c of 'insert random shit here" posts are getting fucking ridiculous. Do you people have nothing better to do than fuel the fire?

Jamal isn't a bad person. He's one of the nicest people I've ever met in this stupid game. He's fucking loyal and expects the same from his friends. And when he gets betrayed he gets pissed off. If you can't deal with that, then don't hang out with Jamal.. Don't join his ls.. Don't talk about him on QCDN. Why do all of you care so fucking much what Jamal does.

Just because he flamed Hollie? I'd flame Hollie too if I could flame him for being a total creeper. But that's real life shit.. Well, more like Vent shit, and going into that on the flame board would just get me in trouble. Yah, Jamal has done some thing a lot of you don't agree with. BUT A LOT OF YOU HAVE DONE THINGS HE DOESN'T AGREE WITH. Oh, but of course Jamal must be a total dick if he has his own ideas on how things should work.. Fuck off you idiots.

 

[jamal]

Don't get me wrong, I am still completely against what Hollie did, and my feelings because of that won't change until something is done to rectify the situation.

The one that was to Khidir only, I assumed he would be passing on. Look at my past posts about how I feel about PM's. They're not private once they leave your fingers. I'm not being hypocritical in any way, I was (am) upset at Hollie, and because of your defense you were (are) included.

If you would ask the members of my ls, I get them their gear first. I enjoy leading, fighting, and the comradery of dedicated people playing this game. The spoils of war I want handed to the people that deserve it most. I was more happy for Twinblake getting his recent Enkidu's cuirass than anything I've gotten. Why? He shows up always has a positive attitude and makes me smile that people are so dedicated to the team. Were twin to tell me he had to leave the ls, I'd wish him best of luck. I've done that to others that have left as well. (Don't take this as an invite to leave taru, you're too much fun!)

The opposite end of the spectrum is the people in it for themselves. I'm all about rewarding people when it's due, but their is no justification for dining and dashing. I can spot these people right away, and it's normally because I'm convinced to let them stay or some other reason that I give them a benefit of a doubt. Normally, this ends up burning me, and the drama I cause because of it isn't half as bad as the dedicated people of the shell's feelings for it.

Yes, it's just a fucking zahak's mail. But it holds great value to our LS as our first big kill. The LS wants it within the shell, just like you'd want your gold medal from winning your first 100 yard dash in a high school track meet...even if you've won others the first will always be the one you cherish the most.

 

[Kotsu]

Orinna, you're like 40 minutes late. We're kinda in the "summing up and making things right" phase of this flame now. -.-;; But PM me the RL shit on Hollie so I can make fun of him in RL (I won't get banned for that, right?). I'll PM you my thoughts, cuz I got enough of those :awesome:

 

[Orinna]

Yah I'm at work.. So I had to READ the flame.. Then I had to type that while doing work. So what if I'm late. I'm still pissed off and felt the need to voice it.