i am going to make this plain and simple.

Rinoah said:
Wataza...i really do not know what to make of you except that you are a hypocrite and make little sense.

First you claim everyone should be friends and sound like a total hippy...then you go and insult someone because they dont agree with you. Also you ignore completely what is being said to you. If you wish to give shizia a chance then go ahead - I am doing so myself - but do not call people idiots because they have given him numerous chances and he is screwed up.

You say that they are living in the past. Without focusing on the past how can you stop making the same mistakes twice? if you stick your hand in the fire do you do so again the next day because you do not want to focus on the past? no you think "hell i'm not doing that again", the same applies with shizia.

Again i am not saying they are right or that they are wrong about shizia but stop being such a damn hypocrite and at least read peoples posts before responding.

That is all.

...First off I think you should think before you post. Seriously. I read every single post for one thing and how the hell am I a hipocrite?! Now you're just putting words in my mouth. I never said everyone should be friends I said that everyone complains about how bad the server is with people yet no one tries to fix it. I also never used 'idiot' now I think you should be the one to read posts. Anyway, I'm not on any high horse! I'm no better than anyone else in this world. Being on a 'high horse' is like being egotistical which is the LAST thing I am. I'm only doing this out of the kindness of my heart and here you are shooting me down...why?!
 
Not that i have much to add on topic either but i made a promise..... aside from flat out necros i have no choice but to uphold my word.

Pandetech you're a douche and you look like a tool.

That is all.
 
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I apologise..you didn't call him and idiots you said he isn't very bright (which is absolutely NOT the same as calling someone an idiot...) and an asshole.

Yes you have harped on about people all being equal and helping eachother out and all the other crap.

And you are a HUGE hypocrite because you come in claiming everyone should be nice and friendly to eachother (and try to "Fix" the server) then end up shouting at someone for nothing other than them not agreeing with you. THAT is why you are a hypocrite.

Now you are welcome to your own opinions on shizia and whatever else you may have an opinion on, but do not insult other people just because they have decided to make an informed decision, based on their own opinions that you do not agree with.
 
Mortanius said:
Produn said:
So the morale of the story is if the FFXI community hates you your screwed.

Yeah, pretty much. But you gotta piss off the entire community 5 times over to get that far in the hole. Shizia has been over that mark for a while now.

Hmmm I wonder what I'd have to do to reach that mark... :twisted:

Oh yeah and Rinoah wins the arguement because Wataza is clearly a Hippie-Hypocrite.
 
I'm not a hipocrite! He keeps saying how bad Shizia is for things that hes done and that he will never change. He may be right about how bad Shizia WAS, but that isn't the reason i'm argueing! The reason is i'm defending Shizia from all of you saying that he will never change and that because of the pattern you have picked up (I'm referring to the "asshole->i'm sorry-> asshole-> i'm sorry thing) you think that nothing will change. Yes, it is normal to...assume...that he will never change, but you know what they say about assume. Plus i'm not 'shouting' as you put it or yelling. If I was it would most likely be in all caps and yada yada yada, but it's not. Exclamation points show strong emotion, that doesn't always have to be anger! ><; Anyway, I never said "lets all be friends". Where are you getting this?! Ugh. I also never called anyone an asshole...there you go shoveing words into my mouth again. ><; I could also care less if he agrees with me or notI'm just saying that people can change and that I really do thin Shizia is one of those rare occasions when someone does change for the better. However, Raivyn come in here and says hes an asshole and he'll never change...I was only trying to prove him wrong. Oi. Anyway my work her eis done. Rinoah said that he/she would give shizia a chance. That was all I had asked for.
 
Actually you did call him an asshole...

You're not very bright :? It's right because hes trying to make amends and you'r ejust being an asshole about it.

In case you missed it that first time:

you'r ejust being an asshole
you'r ejust being an asshole
you'r ejust being an asshole

And in case you still dont believe me go look its the 2nd post from the bottom of page 3.

And yes i while you may have never said "lets all be friends!" your mentality and your posts just reaked of it (the early ones).

And btw i think i actually posted that i will give shizia a chance before you started posting on this thread...but anyway i am afraid you did not change my view on shizia.

Anyway i think this thread probably should have died a few pages ago so i am not going to post here again. So i will just leave it that while you may not agree with someones opinions you should still respect them. Even on the flame board...

That is all.
 
I have the strange feeling Wataza called Raivyn an asshole...
 
Oi. OK fine I admit I did. Duh there's proof, but there was no reason for you to be so rude about it. so I made a mistake, who doesn't?! I'm not perfect and there was no reason for you to be so rude. Anyway, back on topic. How the hell can you find mantality in text? The thought of 'lets all be friends' never even occured to me because that was not my point.
 
Don't be a puss lol. If you say something atleast say it on the face and stick to it!!
 
Ok, first off, for the records....

We have this: http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?t=6052&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Then we got a: http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?t=7592&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

And then there was the rot in hell: http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?t=8938&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Ok, and the cycle of life continues: http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?t=9134&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

And the I quit post: http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?t=8941&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

An all Caps post: http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?p=158389&highlight=#158389 Please note, he says he's nice all the time to people, but then in one of the above posts, he says,
micah2424 said:
your god damm right he is a noob underleveled sub and losing hate as soon as he voked.

god damm your people are stupid for having him much less keeping his ass as a tank
in http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?t=7592&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 (this is after the apologetic post).

The I need a friend post: http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?p=149180&highlight=#149180

This is another story of a person running into him again: http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?p=160904&highlight=#160904

OK, that's just the links

Now, that's found so easily by checking how Shizia has composed himself on the board. And it reports how well they've been caught in game.

Shizia may be an outstanding citizen to most people and people may be giving him the shaft, but you can't blame people who have been here FOR ALL THESE POSTS for doubting somewhat.

Actions speak louder the words (despite HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO USE CAPS TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF AND YELL AND KEEP RUNNING ON EXPLANATIONS IN CAPS).

I said before in his first "I'm sorry" post that you need to admit to what you've done wrong. However, you also can't be doing the same crap over and over and expect people to forgive you. You are not supposed to get our unconditional love. You have to gain respect and from what it seems, you are riding a rollercoaster going up and down in people's minds.

Now go to this:

Raivyn said:
Veteran said:
I've had a few talks with Shizia since his "incidents" and at first I thought he was full of shit, to be honest. I thought he was "pulling a Colbwa", if you will. But as time went on I could tell he was sincere. He has had a tougher time going through life than many of us, and while it's not an excuse for his previous actions, it is an explanation.

He genuinely feels terrible for the way he has acted in the past and fully realizes that certain people will never forgive him, and to be honest he probably deserves that.

But the bottom line is, he is sincere and he is really trying to make a new beginning of it--give him a chance. Take from this what you will.

This is about the third thread I've seen of him realizing 'what hes done wrong' and 'trying to make ammends for past faults'.

Doesn't help that a week ago I was xping nin on weapons in sauro. when he came and killed them quickly. Upon being politely asked IF he could consider moving somewhere else, since there was an xp pt there, he flared in rage at such an 'outrageous request' from a 'noob', amongst a ton of other retarded ass insults I can't even recall. Just not a good guy.

micah2424 said:
wow u think that u can tell me what to kill?

since when do u pay for my account?

since when are u god to tell people where they can and cant level?

u did not ask. u demanded i move so that u can level.

umm no thank u i do not take orders..

That's just your word vs his word. And you don't have a good track record. Especially when you respond like that, it would almost make people go to whereever YOU level and kill your exp mobs and give you the exact same excuse.

It's called that RESPECT that you are so eagerly trying to get. You can't expect people to just give you instant respect even if you've been a dick to them.

ANYWAYS, with the links and my two cents, this is a long enough post. You people may want to make your own opinion based on ALL of the posts.

I don't base my game opinions on how people post on the forums (if I did, I wouldn't like half the people I do in the game). I base my game opinions on how my encounters with a person have been and my friends' encounters because who am I going to believe? A stranger? Or my friend?
 
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