I am NOT your personal slave.

Uzor

... A Man For All Seasons
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Uzor
I really don't like to rant. But I am really getting tired of this.

I do like to help, I really do. But I'm starting to get really tired of it, and I might even start asking for payment.

Now, a little background story;

when I was lvl 50 with my RDM, it was not easy to just go out and hire a high-level to do the job for me, no. I had to shout in Jeuno for hours on end in order to get an alliance for Genkai I. Asking high-level people was not possible, since most of them were JP. Through this process of shouting etc. I learnt many things. And that evolved me and my play style, and improved my skills. And now, people just simply ask someone to solo G1 for them.

Later, I had to get my artifact armour. Same process here, shout in Jeuno, ask people etc. What we did then was ask people OUR LEVEL (Imagine that. there's other people around your level 0.0) and ask them to help you, in return for your help. We could even do a AF3 run for several jobs at once in order to get enough people. This doesn't sound too hard, now does it? This, too, taught me things about the game. And I also got to see areas I had not seen before.

Now, this is what my rant is based on. Other peoples lack of patience. And their lack of knowledge about what they are doing. I constantly get help tells. All the time I get help tells. And this is why I suddenly lost all interrest in helping people for free. Almost everytime I help someone, they didn't even start the quest. Once they get help they expect me to tell them who to talk to, what to buy, where to go, and what to do. They expect me to hold their hand through the whole thing. If I would ever ask someone high-level (I don't think that's possible since I'm one myself) to solo something for me, I would do this first:

1. Where do I start the quest
2. Which NPC's do I have to talk to
3. Any items I need?
3 a. If so buy them
3 b. if not, skip to 4
4. buy silence oils if needed
5. buy prims powders if needed
6. Where do I have to go?
7. What do I have to do there?

Once I've been through these simple stages that won't waste anyone elses time beside yours, THEN you can start shouting for help. Whoever decides to help you will be glad that you come prepared.

4/5 people I help are NOT prepared. As a matter of fact, they're not prepared at all. Anyway, on to the next stage:

Once you're done with the whole thing, be sure to THANK the guy/girl that helped you. He will feel much better if he gets a thank you, weather or not it's in the translator doesn't matter. Even if you pay him, you should thank him, because it's his time that's wasted, not yours since you have to get the thing done anyway. I can't count the number of times someone have simply said "Bye", and then disbanded. Or not even said anything at all. It feels like a terrible waste of my time when this happends.

Also, if the person can't help you, please, just accept that. Don't start a big conversation with me how high-levels are egoistic bastards and never think or help anyone but themselves. Your chances to get my help will not improve. Your chances to appear on my /blist will though.

Once someone started screamign at me because I didn't want to get up at 6 AM a saturday morning in order to help him get a coffer key because that was the only time HE could do it on.
Another time someone started screaming at me because I knew who his brother was and I didn't want to give him (not his brother) 500k gil.

Looking up what you have to do is seriously a very good practice for you. It'll teach you not only how to find things on an amazing thing called the Internet, it will also teach you about your job and other things.

if I need help with some high-level shit (imagine that, we have something to do besides sit in our moghouse and chat) I can't simply solo it. I can't simply ask a level 90 red mage to solo it for me either.

So please, if you're not willing to come prepared, don't waste my time by making me type a response. I might know a lot about the game by reading on several fan sites, and from my time laying the game. But I am not a walking FFXI encyclopedia. And I'm not just some pixels placed inside a game to be your personal slave.
 
btw, I hate the fact that you can not edit posts >.> So please atleast try to undestand spelling errors and gramatical erors since I forgot to read through the post before I pressed the "Submit" button >.<
 
Uzor said:
Now, this is what my rant is based on. Other peoples lack of patience. And their lack of knowledge about what they are doing. I constantly get help tells. All the time I get help tells. And this is why I suddenly lost all interrest in helping people for free. Almost everytime I help someone, they didn't even start the quest. Once they get help they expect me to tell them who to talk to, what to buy, where to go, and what to do. They expect me to hold their hand through the whole thing. If I would ever ask someone high-level (I don't think that's possible since I'm one myself) to solo something for me, I would do this first:

1. Where do I start the quest
2. Which NPC's do I have to talk to
3. Any items I need?
3 a. If so buy them
3 b. if not, skip to 4
4. buy silence oils if needed
5. buy prims powders if needed
6. Where do I have to go?
7. What do I have to do there?

Once I've been through these simple stages that won't waste anyone elses time beside yours, THEN you can start shouting for help. Whoever decides to help you will be glad that you come prepared.

I remember quite a few of us holding your hand through CoP 2-3 and the little side-quest we did beforehand. We called out the NPC's at least 4 or 5 times before you asked where everything was. And, I can't remember if it was you or not, but so many people KEPT ASKING WHAT AGGRO'D.

SLIMES
FOMORS
TAURUS

Jesus Christ it wasn't that hard.
 
I remember quite a few of us holding your hand through CoP 2-3 and the little side-quest we did beforehand. We called out the NPC's at least 4 or 5 times before you asked where everything was. And, I can't remember if it was you or not, but so many people KEPT ASKING WHAT AGGRO'D.

SLIMES
FOMORS
TAURUS

Jesus Christ it wasn't that hard.

... you holding my hand? yeah, the side quest since I wasn't even prepared for that one (and since I paly on computer I can't look it up). However, inside the aqueducts, I did now what to do. I had bought all items needed, and I was prepared for that.

and no, I didn't ask what aggroed since I already know that.
 
CubsWoo said:
Uzor said:
Now, this is what my rant is based on. Other peoples lack of patience. And their lack of knowledge about what they are doing. I constantly get help tells. All the time I get help tells. And this is why I suddenly lost all interrest in helping people for free. Almost everytime I help someone, they didn't even start the quest. Once they get help they expect me to tell them who to talk to, what to buy, where to go, and what to do. They expect me to hold their hand through the whole thing. If I would ever ask someone high-level (I don't think that's possible since I'm one myself) to solo something for me, I would do this first:

1. Where do I start the quest
2. Which NPC's do I have to talk to
3. Any items I need?
3 a. If so buy them
3 b. if not, skip to 4
4. buy silence oils if needed
5. buy prims powders if needed
6. Where do I have to go?
7. What do I have to do there?

Once I've been through these simple stages that won't waste anyone elses time beside yours, THEN you can start shouting for help. Whoever decides to help you will be glad that you come prepared.

I remember quite a few of us holding your hand through CoP 2-3 and the little side-quest we did beforehand. We called out the NPC's at least 4 or 5 times before you asked where everything was. And, I can't remember if it was you or not, but so many people KEPT ASKING WHAT AGGRO'D.

SLIMES
FOMORS
TAURUS

Jesus Christ it wasn't that hard.

Yeah, that quest I just brought up if anyone wanted to do it. He didn't ask someone to help him as described in his flame. ^^
 
The point was that at least 5 other people had already asked who the NPCs were and where to go, and it was quite annoying having to constantly repeat the names and <pos> of all of them. Nobody just wanted to scroll up the /party chat and figure it out for themselves.
 
Thing is, I was afk then and didn't know you were doing the quest. Once I got back I just saw Tyrath say "Anyone want to do the quest for Bloody Coffin?", and I asked how I get that quest. so I didn't even know you had posted the <pos> of the NPC's before that >.<
 
Ah, that's understandable then, I wasn't aware you were afk.

It's a pet peeve of mine. Before I do anything - ANYTHING - regarding this game, I make sure I know everything there is to know about it. I probably spent more time researching the Promyvion BCs than actually fighting them. I agree with what you've said in your OP totally, I just thought it was a little weird considering what happened in Tavnazia. ^^
 
Might have been best to say I was going afk, but I didn't see any use since we were still waiting on 3 people to show up =/ and it wasn't like I was planning on going afk for an hour XD Just long enough to make something to eat.
 
I know exactly what you mean Uzor.. granted I was lucky enough that the greatest player of all time, Sti, a lvl 75 BST took me on some of my AF and Genkai I (I didn't actually ask her to... I was talking to her asking her questions and such and was looking for members who might need it too and then she said "I'll take you" and so that was that... hehe ^^) but ya.. about 7 people in 1 day have asked me for help.. and that's average... now.. if they are friends.. I don't mind.. not too much.. as long as they don't bother me too much.. I do have other things to do.. and things that I would like to do on the game.. anyways... ya.. I've had several people ask me to help with AF and Genkai and well.. I'm getting sick of it.. I don't mind helping out but I am not there to just make sure you get everything done that you wanna do in the game -_-
 
Uzor, I feel your pain. I can not even count the number of help tells I get in a day. And the responses are beautiful. Sometimes I get yelled at for being "selfish" because I have prior obligations. But one thing pisses me off more then anything.

"Can you help me get my coffer in Garlaige?"

Sure...What ya got coming?

"Oh well...I was wondering if you could just get your friends to help."

Ok, it's true that being a high level, I know lots of others. But if I agree to help you for free...The LEAST you can do is get some other people!!! People ask me for help and talk to me like it's my job to get more people to come. And believe me, I have gotten friends to help before...But if you ask me and expect me to do it all for you, screw off! I LOVE helping people. I DON'T love babysitting. I don't mind helping with quest info and whatnot(IF I know it.), but expecting me to build you a working team to get it done? (| No thanks. |)

My favorite ever had to be the one guy, I will leave unnamed...Asks me for help. I tell him, "Sorry man, I'm already helping some people with a coffer."(Which I was) He says, and I quote, "thats gay" The next day, he has the nerve to ask me for help again.
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Cythe - Rank 10
Hume Male
73 Paladin
 
just the other day Genna was telling our Linkshell how this WHM asked her for help to get the Garliage Coffer Key and coffer and she kindly said she would and then the WHM said: "cool, I'll drop what I'm doing once you have the people to help"... GET THIS STRAIGHT!!!! The higher level people might... MIGHT help you but if they do it is your obligation to find others to help or find out the information that might be needed....
 
Kinda off topic, while not really being a high lvl, I cant tell how bad it is getting help requests. But I can say that Uzor you are one of the greatest people I know in game. I've lost track of things you have helped me with, for free too. XD G1, Almost half my AF, Shadow lord, RSE, hell you even helped me do all 3 proms when you had already finished them =O and the list goes on >.>
 
I have to agree when i ask for help i normaly have already researched the quest or mission so I know what i need and wont waiste the other persons time I will however ask questions if i couldnt find the info frst I dont get mad if someone doesnt know but shit 9 times out of 10 when people ask me for help they didnt even bother to look up the info beforehand.

I am usualy one of Cythes friends he calls in to help with stuff unles sits very high level hehe I lov ehelping others and will do so if i can just seems people in general love accpeting help but its hard to get them to help you
 
yeah Uzor... i feel ya

i know this one guy that quit the game... because he was stuck on genkai2
for 2.... 2!!! days and that people were not helping him...
 
Don't get me wrong. I don't mind if people ask me for information about something, as an example; Genkai 4. But if you're shouting for help, or send me a tell that you need help with AF1, atleast start the quest and do all the preperations =/

Heck, I usually ask for information too (as an example, I asked Slizze where I start the SMN AF1 quest). Asking for information is not shamefull. Assuming someone will hold your hand through somehting, however, is.

I can provide you with information as long as I didn't already agree to help you. I assume you already know what to do then.
 
What exactly do you mean by....I am NOT your personal slave!!?




On a side-note contact me in game I need you to solo a quest or mission for me. 8)
 
What exactly do you mean by....I am NOT your personal slave!!?

Take a good guess :P What do you think it means? :lol:
 
i stopped helping a long time ago to ppl i dont even know. i dont even bother responding back anymore 'cause it's annoying.
 
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