I hate Yhoator Jungle....

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I hate this place. With a passion. More than I hate the Dunes, more than I hate Qufim, more than I hate any other place in game. I hate this place.

Why? Because this time through, all I seem to get are idiots.

Case in point, the other night I'm in Khazam, along with all the other tanks waiting for groups (PLD/WAR), less than 1000 from lvl 27. No one is inviting. So, I sit around, and watch the search lists, looking for people. Finally, I spot a WHM coming into the zone, LFG. He's a Hume, not the best race for WHM, but I've had Galka who could do their job well, and so I sent him a tell asking if he would like to form a group. Ok!

So I grab two THF, a WAR, and my tarutaru SMN bf, and we haul out to the Deep Jungles after a few goblins in the close jungle which werent very spectacular for exp.

Wow, just wow. I have never, ever ever had such a bad WHM in my life. First and foremost, he had so little mana, he could not make it through a fight without resting. He was wearing Chocobo gloves, while fighting. And he had to be wearing something that took away from his mana, else I have no Idea how it was so low... he was barely wearing ANY gear that helped his mana pool. And to compound the mana propblem... he NUKED during a fight.

But this isnt the worst of it. Hardly. After numerous goblin trains from other players, we settled in on the Yhug/Yhoat zone, on the Yhu side of it, to pull mandies. By this time, I'm now 500 from lvl. Of course, inevitably, we had to do the occasional goblin. So we get a goblin pull, and settle in to fight. To keep the THF's happy, I'm facing towards the WHM, so I can see him cure and know when to counter the hate he is getting with my own cures. So, I voke, I'm smacking it, I'm smacking it. I notice my hp getting into the yellow, so I through myself a cure 2. All good. I get a Cure or two from the WHM, and then I see my HP going down again. Ok. Cure 2. Bomb toss, which I Shield Bash, but fail, cuts into our HP. I see the WHM Cure 2 himself. I keep fighting, Keep voking, etc.

My health goes into the Orange. I throw my last Cure 2 on myself (Elf), and keep fighting. WHM Cure 2's himself. Bomb Toss. My HP is in the red. WHM Cure 2's himself. I throw my Last Cure (Takes me to 4 mana) on myself. WHM Cure 2's himself, then cures the THF. At this point I spam my Health macro. WHM Nukes the goblin. A few seconds later, goblin gets a critical, I die. (Two hour burned up earlier in the night by another group, had 45 min on it still)

Agro shifts to WAR. He used Mightly Strikes a few seconds before I died. He vokes. Hes in the orange because WHM hasnt cured him the whole fight. WHM Cure 2's... HIMSELF for the last of his mana. Goblin rush, WAR is in Red, but goblin down to sliver. THF's try to get the goblin off of the WAR, without luck. WAR dies. THFs kill goblin.

.....WHM apologizes to War for hitting the wrong macro and curing himself. Doesn't say a word to me about my death, or why he was curing himself throughout the fight. I'm back to 950 tnl.

I'm LIVID, needless to say, but I let it go, and after raise sickness, we move back to the other jungle. The WHM seems to get better (Read as: I'm burning through all my mana every fight, the SMN is being more whm than anything else, and the WHM spams cure 2 every fight). Now, we take a break to let everyone get settled in, but THF needs to take a break to get food, 5 min. Thats ok. Everyone gets back, we settle in, kill a few more things. All good.

Then, out of left field, a pissing fight breaks out between our THF's and the WAR. The WAR wolnt tell us when he is leaving, but it wil be before he has lvled in 1500 exp. Yet thinks this has told us what time he is leaving. Suddenly, everyone is shouting about AFK lengths, logging suddenly, and training bra's. I'm pissed, and as leader, tell them all to shut up or I'll boot them. WAR wolnt STFU, and drops. THF1 keeps egging him on over shouts. I tell him to STFU, else I'll kick him. He calls it a truce, but WAR keeps at it. I replace him with a DRK.

We go to make first kill.. before puller can pull, my power blinks, taking both myself and my BF out of game for a few sec. We log back in, get back into the party, and what do I find.. the THF1 yelling at the WAR again. I tell him to STFU again, and we make a pull.

My Power DIES. For about 13 hours. By the time I could get back in, No sign of them. I managed to get 27 by lving in the Mountians, farming Lizards.

I'm never going back to the jungles again. I'll go get lvl 28-32 in Batalia or somewhere else. Even if I have to do it 8 exp at a time off of easy prey. I'm never going back.
 
Well being that you're level 27 and all, I wouldn't mind exping with you OUTSIDE of THE JUNGLE OF NOOB! Send me a tell
 
lv 27-30 Yutunga Outpost on Gobs
lv 30-32ish on Sahigin outside SSG in Yutunga on that point of no return hump

Definitely good shit if you can convince 5 other tards to head out there.
 
Man that's some shitty luck you had. I want to send a Thanks to everyone I partied with on Saturday 18th of September. Made 25-32 in one day. Had some incredible luck getting into a good party. Minimagic, Mulletjunky, Ramtantaru, Fliptout, Flipmixer, Jonas, Zakai (I think) and there was a great Galka ninja, name started with a S I just can't seem to remember it.

Somedays you just get lucky I guess. Feels great to be done with the jungle all in one day, I know I spent a long ass time there with my THF, and at least 3 nights there with my RDM. I can't believe I got so lucky leveling my MNK.
 
Yhoator mandys are good from like 29-33 if you add a little gob to that mix. Right naffy? :D
 
Oy I totally agree with this post. The Jungle is the single worst place EVER! My god did it piss me off the 2nd time through it. It wasn't bad the first time because I had a static but jesus freakin murphy the second time was like pulling teeth. Idiots everywhere, training gobs to zones, pt'n too close to eachother etc.

2 examples of the complete idiocy I had to deal with the 2nd time through.

1) Someone trained 3 Smithy's and a Shaman to the zone in the 2nd jungle and it took 45 freakin minutes for people to STOP going back in and train them right back to the zone. There were 16 bodies in total that needed to be raised before it was all done.

2) There were allready 2 parties in one of the jungle tunnels (one of them being us) and this was good. A 3rd party starts up and makes camp practically on top of our mages (me and a galka whm). Now as all that have been to the jungle no, partying too close to eachother is a bad thing. Bomb toss and Sleep are like satan and dealing with your own mob's AOE is bad enough without having to deal with another parties...
So anyway these morons camp right ontop of me and the galka so we politely ask them to move as the tunnel is allready full. They dont' listen....Finally they pull a Smithy to tackle (they were higher level than us) and a bomb toss goes off, killing me and their WHM. The only reason it didn't kill our whm was the fact that he was a Galka....jesus murphy, why the hell wouldn't they move?!

Anyway, I feel your pain :evil:
 
I dont know what to say really. I highly enjoyed going threw 'the jungle' area my first time through with Warrior. It flew by so quickly, the groups were enjoyable and people werent fucking morons, atleast not that often.

Then i get there as a Drk and the whole place as gone to crap. It took me for freaking ever to get out of there, however things did get better once I started going into Yhoator, but over all it wasnt anything like when i went through with Warrior. The place was littered with noobs, people who didnt know how to set up a decent camp and constant, i mean constant gob trains.. like every fucking minute or two. Not to mention the countless retards carrying on conversations in /shout. Oye that was teh sux.

Unfortunately I'm gonna be heading back there eventually as a Sam and a Thf.. /sigh. Quite possibly other jobs too, depending if I feel like leveling them up that high. I can pray it might be better, but from what ive heard, thats still wishful thinking.
 
The problem with yhoator jungle being a bad place is because no one ever tells these people what they are doing wrong, and / or what to do right.

For example: Two nights ago in yuhug. jungle, I saw a WHM / MNK seeking. As a laugh and fume at the same time my party heads out. Later that night I see this whitemage in a party. I look to see who there leader is. Turns out that it's a rank 6 ( Ninja? [ I couldnt remember ] ) . I asked him wtf, and he replied, "Ah man, I didn't even notice it, what do you want me to do though? Tell me something?"

Needless to say the whm stayed in the group for a while until disbanding, but that's my point. I say this to the world of FFXI : Put your foot in the ground, and help these people or don't help them if they refuse to correct themselvs, this is the same damn reason why we have retards 60+.

If you have that goddamn attitude like, " I don't care I just wanna xp. " You don't only fuck over yourself from getting better xp, but you fuck over others in your pt as well. So please help these people in Valkrum before the go to qufuim, so shit like the whole this story on the thread wont happen in the first place. :x
 
Ya see, thats just it. I didnt have anyone to tell me what to do wrong and what to do right. There wasn't ANYONE around to tell us those things when the pc release came out.

I figured it out by playing the game, and I dont see how the hell there are people retarded enough to get past lvl 15 and still not undstand the how to play the job they've had for the last 15 levels..

I mean.. come on. Levels 1-10 get you used to your character, and how to fight mobs. Sometime after 10 your going to have to party with people, and learn how party dynamics go. It's so fucking simple.. I mean damn. Now I understand lots of people are new to this game genre simply because the only reason they picked up the game was that it was a Final Fantasy game. But after playing through 18 levels, getting a subjob and leveling the subjob. Any normal fucking person, would know how to play the game by then.

How some idiots continue to play the game and not undstand thier jobs or role in a party pisses the hell out of me. I bought the Bradygames guide and ya know what, it did actually help me to get used to the way this mmo was set up at first. I read through nearly all parts readable in the guide the first few days i bought the game. It helped me to understand how this mmo worked. But once I had gotten to around lvl 10 I already had a pretty firm grasp on how warrior was suppose to work. I already had a plan laid out for leveling warrior.

I knew I wanted to be a Drk before i ever bought the game, so I set out to do what I could as a warrior to get ready for that. First i knew since there were 75 levels id have to take warrior to a minimum of 37, but I decided on a nice round lvl 40. So first thing i did after reaching lvl 18 and getting my subjob quest finished was I leveled my sub. Out of all the starting subs available Mnk seemed to be the best, so I leveled Monk with warrior as my sub till i reached lvl 20 in monk, then switched back over to warrior. Now i was free to go all the way to lvl 40 without having to switch back level my sub once my warrior job got too high. That would have fustrated the hell out of me and been one heck of a hassle. (I don't even see how people actually would want to do this anyway.)

I new i could go at lvl 30 and instantly get Drk, but then what? Switch back to lvling a 30 warrior once i reached lvl 61 with Dark Knight? <No Thanks> I also realized if i took warrior up another 10 levels to 40 the advanced job quest would also be a lot easier, and they were.

I would have leveled Thf sooner, but I really didn't think id would need to. I still think i can manage perfectly well was a Drk/War till 75, but just incase a party wants me to be a drk/thf, im now working on making that flexibilty.

I know my limitations as a Drk/War, I know what can get me killed. If I do die, its kinda 50/50 either my fault because I did my buffs and underestimated the mob i was fighting, or its some other idiot in the party who doesnt know how to do his job right. (ei. a pld not knowing how to tank) To be honest though, i dont die all that often. When I do, its not really a big deal, as long as I dont delevel, then i just usually laugh about it, after all.. I've been a warrior tank many times. Tanks should be the first to die, if anyone, and if things went bad with me as a warrior tank, I made damn sure that I died first so that the others could escape.

Whew.. long post. Sorry for the rant, but damn some people really piss me off.
 
guys. DONT GO THERE IF YOU HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont. I lvl now in batalia downs for my whm sub. much safer than the jungles and better XP. seriously just because a place is popular does not mean you have to go there ><
 
I got news for you. EVERY zone that is a popular zone is infected with newbs. It starts with Valkrum, then moves to Qufim, the jungles, Citadel, and crawlers nest. Im not saying that ALL players in these zones are noobs, but these are the places where most of the newbs go.
 
there are alternatives to all of these "popular" places. you just have to find them. go online to mystery tour or something and look up the hunting places. i recommend mystery tour since its not noob infested. straight forward it tells you where you can hunt at whatever lvl.
 
Thanks, guys, for all the support.

I made a point of trying to explain to these guys what was wrong, in a polite way, but I really dont think it sank in. There are, however, only so many ways one cay say "Please do x, not y, and q is your problem." and "Please dont be an ass to other players". When they don't listen, or seem simply not to care, I most often just walk away. Had that group continued like it did, I would have walked.

And just a note: it is totally unfair to SMN to make them be primary healers when you have a WHM. I feel so sorry for Chozo, and I hope he forgives me for it ^^;

And yes, as soon as RealLife(tm) stops giving me problems, I'll be headed to Bataila to find a group.
 
Regarding the trains...Some people seem to forget to "call for help".
If a MOB is fair game for everyone then it will fall.

Ahem...Duh.
 
Moved my post from General... :wink: I gotta get my /fume in too!!

Does anyone else hate this jungle as much as I do?!?!?!? I was partying in Yhoator Jungle and it was getting that time to go to bed so the party disbanded... 1 person warped back to Kazham, 2 people logged, and 3 of us remained... we zoned to Yuhtunga and then the fun began... 2 of us had maps, but they didn't help... My whm companion and I took turns casting Invisible on us and we split up... we spent a good 30 minutes runnin around trying to find our way out... While we were split up, the war's invis wore off and she was aggro'd and died... She hp'd and was happy; we said our goodbyes and she disbanded... My whm companion and I were still runnin around tryin to figure this damn maze out... He finally gave up and took on the Overgrown Rose, he pretty much died instantly then hp'd back to Port Jeuno... He stayed in the party just to keep me company... I spent the next 20 minutes still tryin to find the damn exit... arg, I finally got fed up, said my goodbyes, and logged out... I refuse to lose my XP!! I'm almost to 28... I know that seems so minuscule(sp?) compared to alot of you here, but GOD I want 30!!!! DAMN I HATE THIS JUNGLE!!!
 
What I did was wait at Yhoater zone till someone ran by that knew where they were going and followed them. After I did it once it was super simple to get out. Just follow the general direction on the map.
 
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