i have lost all faith

I dont' post here often. However I do come here and read the treads. I often don't find a need to post, but I have partied with Elitemage. So has Ellion, a bud from the linkshell I am in, The CrimsonPiratesPG. It's actually where I met Ellion, but moving along. I was in a party where he was being a seriously horrible asshat. He did nothing but bitch constantly at the various people in the party. I was a Galka Warrior (Borsk) using a Great Sword. Now, I understand that Great Axe is the best weapon, but as a Galka I did pretty damn well with a Great Sword, but he continued to bitch about the fact that I wasn't using a Great Axe.

And I believe it was Cubswoo who mentioned him being in middle school.

Don't give him that much credit....I know a 14 Year old 11 Player in middle school, she actually -has- skill <_<
 
The Druw said:
I dont' post here often. However I do come here and read the treads. I often don't find a need to post, but I have partied with Elitemage. So has Ellion, a bud from the linkshell I am in, The CrimsonPiratesPG. It's actually where I met Ellion, but moving along. I was in a party where he was being a seriously horrible asshat. He did nothing but bitch constantly at the various people in the party. I was a Galka Warrior (Borsk) using a Great Sword. Now, I understand that Great Axe is the best weapon, but as a Galka I did pretty damn well with a Great Sword, but he continued to bitch about the fact that I wasn't using a Great Axe.

And I believe it was Cubswoo who mentioned him being in middle school.

Don't give him that much credit....I know a 14 Year old 11 Player in middle school, she actually -has- skill <_<

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elitemage said:
lol cubs is getting worked up, yes rank is pointless, yes i will get sky into sky when i need it you dont see any fucking level 1 people with no sub jobs with kazham airship pass, they get it when they need, i dont need to get my rank up for anything i like to hear you cry about it, that a rank 4 player is better than you will ever be LOL.

First off, I have a Mule that, by Lv.11, and with no subjob I might add, has surpassed you in many ways. It has Rank 6, Kazaam pass, Airship pass, ZM3, All of the Teleport Cystals, Gobbybag I-VI, Moghouse Upgrades I-III, and nearly every outpost supply run completed.

Ok, so I wasn't Lv.1, but you get the point.

You have a Bard at Lv.62, and a WHM in your thirties, and are in possession of a JP linkshell. Then you take it upon yourself to trash the North American population as a whole be cause you can never seem to find a good party. I admit it's hard to find a good group, but there are things I learned along the way that definately helped me avoid bad parties. For instance, If I see a Rank 4 WHM seeking and I see a Rank 6 one seeking, while the Rank 4 one is Subbing Bard and the Rank 6 one is subbbing somethign more appropriate, i can avoid a shit party and invite the Rank 6 one, because they have a better understanding of the game than the Rank 4 WHM/BRD. You are probably getting shitty parties because you are making choices that attract newbs and scare away good players. No self respecting 'good player' is going to pick a WHM that has 25% less MP from an inapropriate sub. But I will tell you that the worst players on our server will invite a WHM/BRD because they have been exiled by the rest of the populous, and can't find groups do to thier inappropriate or underleveled subs.

If you need a PL as a WHM you have severe problems. WHM you can breeze through just about as fast as BRD. But I would assume you got to 30 With your WHM without a sub or at least an underleveled one, got your Bard advanced job, and blew through the leveling because, well... Bard is THE EASIEST job to level. Ask any bard.... So on that Note I could assume that you have a whopping ~95-100 levels worth of experience in the game total. (Brd-62, Whm-32, BLM~1-7). I don't think you're a dipshit, just frustrated and naive. I know, we've all been in your shoes. I was the same way before I got my rank up and realized it helped the invites, and got myself an apropriate subjob helped intice the better players to actually invite me so I wasn't stuck with the newbs.. I leveled and tried out several different party configurations, because there is a lot more to the game than just leveling. One of the Funnest Parties I was in was a Cannon Party of Darks in Qufim, it was slow exp but fun ass hell. If you can't find enjoyment in simple things like leveling with a variety of people/jobs/skill levels, and you don't find missions/quests amusing, perhaps this is not your cup of tea, and you should move on.

You ever heard the phrase:

"Why do you keep hitting yourself in the head with a hammer?"
"Because it feels so good when I stop"


If you're not having fun...

Just resist doing the things that are hurting you. Learn your WHM job and try to enjoy it. See if you can meet good players and fordge relationships for later. Level a propper subjob and get your rank up and you will avoid some of the problems you are having. As well you might want to rethink your strategies when it comes to defending yourself.. Image is a big part of life, and when it comes to such 'online' things, how you present yourself in text plays a huge role in how you are precieved. To me, all you are is text... You might want to be a little more attractive..
 
If I see a Rank 4 WHM seeking and I see a Rank 6 one seeking, while the Rank 4 one is Subbing Bard and the Rank 6 one is subbbing somethign more appropriate, i can avoid a shit party and invite the Rank 6 one, because they have a better understanding of the game than the Rank 4 WHM/BRD. You are probably getting shitty parties because you are making choices that attract newbs and scare away good players. No self respecting 'good player' is going to pick a WHM that has 25% less MP from an inapropriate sub. But I will tell you that the worst players on our server will invite a WHM/BRD because they have been exiled by the rest of the populous, and can't find groups do to thier inappropriate or underleveled subs.
Unrelated to elitemage or how he plays it, but Whm/brd is quite viable. I've used it a few times in exp parties. Also, its not 25% less mp. Blm sub gives me about ~80 mp at lvl 75/37blm out of my 888 mp, and I don't really miss it either. As a taru, elitemage would have more mp as whm/brd than a hume whm/blm. Please read this comprehensive explanation of whm/brd before criticizing and misjuding it.

Basic requirements for whm/brd to work from Icemage are:
(1) There is no Bard in the party
(2) There is a Red Mage in the party
(3) There are at least 4 MP users in the party
(4) Someone else in the party can cast Escape

Second thread with a good discussion comparing all of whm's viable sub choices.
 
I fail to see how this matters before 50 - at least - because with a 15-18 BRD sub the best he's going to do is Minuet I or Madrigal 1 to the melees and Requiem II to the mob.

And even after that, that's a LOT of requirements to make WHM/BRD a decent choice.
 
Well if you checked the first thread you would have seen it was a discussion for 60+ and I said this wasn't referring specifically to elitemage, but rather the job combination. The requirements are meet pretty often I feel; rdm, blm, whm, pld setup is rather common and fits those requirements. The second thread has some of the best discussion and points on the matter to consider before passing judement on the combination.
 
I like to use the BRD sub too for my WHM. I'm with a static RDM and I usually find myself as the more appropriate member to sub brd. I don't really need the blm debuffs because RDM will cast them always, I don't need sleep and escape because rdm has them. We never have ballad because whm brd and rdm would be pointless, so I can stack my refresh with her refresh when I feel like it'd be worth it. (mage heavy party, ninja party(with ninja I am usually bored as WHM and nowhere need all my MPs... so hitting blm with ballad and melees with madrigal gives me more use))
 
I think it was a given, that we were scolding Elitemage for using WHM/BRD before LV50, as apposed to using the job/sj in general. Or at least I was.
 
Pre conserve mp, I would prefer a whm/brd using paon's over a whm/blm who just gets 20 some extra mp. I witnessed Ryme using this in valkurm and qufim to good effect.
 
heh thanks rones but i dont think i need to explain myself.

its funny how i make a thread than all of the "uber leet QCDN level 75's" think im talking about them when im really not. i garentee 95% of the people that come here are the GOOD players but they got all defensive when i said all NA's suck like i was telling them they sucked. but when you idiots start flaming me for my flame LOL ill just give it right back thats always fun

you people need to calm the fuck down you take FFXI like its real life or some shit god damn.

oh and for the idiot that said "prove it" heres your SS

http://img237.echo.cx/my.php?image=img00488ro.jpg
 
I'm not the best or oldest player in FFXI, but, wouldn't you be hitting really high exp on mobs like that? 184 seems kinda small to be chaining....of course I've never seen past Chain 5. Because I've never been past Kazahm, just curious.
 
elitemage said:
heh thanks rones but i dont think i need to explain myself.

its funny how i make a thread than all of the "uber leet QCDN level 75's" think im talking about them when im really not. i garentee 95% of the people that come here are the GOOD players but they got all defensive when i said all NA's suck like i was telling them they sucked. but when you idiots start flaming me for my flame LOL ill just give it right back thats always fun

you people need to calm the fuck down you take FFXI like its real life or some shit god damn.

oh and for the idiot that said "prove it" heres your SS

http://img237.echo.cx/my.php?image=img00488ro.jpg

My god you are dumb! This sounds like an SAT question:

- Most people here are GOOD players.
- All NA players suck.

From the information provided, it can be deduced that:
A) Most players here are JP
B) Most players that suck dont come here
C) elitemage is an idiot

You fail at logic.

As far as your picture goes, WHOOPDEDOO!!!
A party of Rngs can get chain 20+ in sky slaughtering T-VT weapons. A Party of Mnks can do the same in KRT. Your screenie says nothing.
 
184 is small? think of it this way when you go for the "big kill" it takes how long to kill it? 1min or 1 and a half mins maybe? those big XP numbers suck and you will ALWAYS get more XP/HR doing easier mobs for faster chains.... we were getting 150xp+ for each kill with in 30 seconds, all of that XP adds up FAST and is way more than you could get chaning harder mobs slower for 200+ xp a pop =)
 
As far as your picture goes, WHOOPDEDOO!!!
A party of Rngs can get chain 20+ in sky slaughtering T-VT weapons. A Party of Mnks can do the same in KRT. Your screenie says nothing.

some one asked me to post it please read the whole flame before you jump in head first.

I just love how you all act so stupid like im saying all of the people here suck, i mean how much more could i explain it? Most NA players, levels 1-30 on there main or sub job, less than rank 5, are pretty bad players. now did i say every single one of them are? no i did not, but most of em do suck pretty bad ^^
 
elitemage said:
184 is small? think of it this way when you go for the "big kill" it takes how long to kill it? 1min or 1 and a half mins maybe? those big XP numbers suck and you will ALWAYS get more XP/HR doing easier mobs for faster chains.... we were getting 150xp+ for each kill with in 30 seconds, all of that XP adds up FAST and is way more than you could get chaning harder mobs slower for 200+ xp a pop =)

and that's where I call bullshit. Yes, chain11 can be done, but NOT on 150xp base mobs. Plus, if they were 150 base xp mobs, your chain11 would be much higher. My guess would be that they were around 100 base xp mobs.
 
elitemage said:
184 is small? think of it this way when you go for the "big kill" it takes how long to kill it? 1min or 1 and a half mins maybe? those big XP numbers suck and you will ALWAYS get more XP/HR doing easier mobs for faster chains.... we were getting 150xp+ for each kill with in 30 seconds, all of that XP adds up FAST and is way more than you could get chaning harder mobs slower for 200+ xp a pop =)

Finally something smart was said.
 
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