I made a mistake "TheBrotherhood Collapses"

[Josudes]

I had taken up for these two before but now I have no reason to hold back. Xean, who has taken on Zerayla as an accomplice, has booted many of his most valuable members. He is always right and always thinks he is correct. I made the mistake of defending them before and I will not do it again. Xean booted me, Kelga, Reiyn, Kirameki, and.. well Maharo left but we were all to be booted over nonsense. I allowed someone(kirameki) back into the LS because they booted him for supposedly calling Zerayla a "heffer".. yet I know he wouldn't because if he was to call her something he would make it much more exciting or creative... So jokes go around every LS everyday big deal...Anyway here are the /tells.. Mine are all in text because my screenshot wasnt working ... anyway...



__>>Alianne : and what was that for?
__Alianne>> hes sending me tells
__>>Hojima : lol they booted me?
__>>Alianne : well when i looked in the list you were the only sack
__Alianne>> sorry tring not to die in sea
__>>Alianne : ok
__Xean>> you know the reasons for your removal jos
__>>Xean : whats that?
__Xean>> must i really go over them?
__>>Xean : i think i deserve at least that
__Xean>> why?
__>>Xean : cause i have no clue why i was just booted
__Xean>> its this factional alliance you are a part of
__Xean>> with kelga reiyn maharo and kirameki
__>>Xean : because im friends with them im removed?
__Xean>> lol jos, dont try to play with me
__>>Xean : im not sure wth ur talking about man.. state the facts and then ill know
__Xean>> you wont fool me, because i know what has been the case
__>>Kelga : xean booted me from ls
__Xean>> you do know
__Xean>> thats really bad of you to be thinking i need to tell you
__Kelga>> hi it's reiyny
__Xean>> when you know
__Kelga>> what'd he say to you?
__>>Xean : stop dicking around and tell me the damn problem dude
__>>Kelga : wont even tell me why
__Xean>> i dont dick around jos
__>>Kelga : says i know
__Kelga>> but do u know?
__>>Xean : then stop wasting your breath saying pointless things and state the reason
__>>Kelga : no dude
__>>Kelga : i have done so much idk lol
__Kelga>> im not a dude ><
__Xean>> state the reason? to you? when you know what it is? the only people i need to prove something is to the other
__Xean>> ls leaders
__>>Kelga : lol sorry
__>>Xean : i dont the the reason
__Kelga>> kelga says you got booted for the same reason we did
__>>Kelga : what reason is that?
__Xean>> two other members have confirmed what you have said and done regarding the kirameki case
__Kelga>> officially we were leeching
__Kelga>> w/ the eyes and ohat run
__Xean>> you happy?
__>>Xean : gave him a new pearl? lol boot me for that
__Xean>> because you would not confess
__Kelga>> but ...real reason....we were bashing zera
__Xean>> calling the reason for kicking him bullshit and then defying what i did
__Xean>> yes i will boot your ass for that
__>>Xean : lol ok [Take care.]
__Xean>> i have had it with you and all the shit you kept tryin to provoke and all the dumb shit you said in the past
__Xean>> that act was the last thing
__Xean>> yes, take care jos
__>>Xean : lol trying to provoke someone.. i havent done such a thing
__Xean>> do your own thing with the others
__Xean>> sure jos sure
__>>Kelga : lmao...
__Xean>> and you even say that it is me and zer who changed
__Xean>> now -that- is some bullshit
__>>Xean : lol ok man no need to try to bash me
__>>Xean : your words are meaningless
__Xean>> i dont expect them to mean anything to you
__Kelga>> hey it's me now
__>>Xean : then why are you still talking?
__Xean>> to let you hear what your backstabbin ass needs to hear
__Xean>> you went from so called 'friend' to turning away, typical of people
__Kelga>> i'm done talking with his stupid round fat ass, so you should tell him that he would be better off kicking
__Xean>> thats why im talkin
__Kelga>> everyone in the except alianne and standpoint cuz no one likes them anyway
__Kelga>> i got the chatlog to prove carste doesn't
__Kelga>> or at least putting the same commentary we did
__>>Xean : haha back stabbing.. ok man you are dilussional
__Kelga>> clarisse doesn't like them, neither does spalko
__Kelga>> or ang
__Xean>> really
__Xean>> there any way you can logically explain how i am delusional
__>>Xean : well good look keeping your ls together since it was i who changed and not you and zer
__Xean>> dont try to turn that shit again on me
__>>Xean : ok i backstabbed you how? by putting kirameki back in the ls..
__Xean>> thats all jos?
__Xean>> that the only thing you can think of?
__Xean>> you wanna disregard all the dumb shit you said in the past?
__Xean>> i wont be surprised if thats the case
__>>Xean : like what? me being an ass like i normally am?
__Xean>> oh so you're an ass now to us is what you're saying?
__>>Xean : or when you and zer agreed on something and i didnt so i was looked at as the asshole
__Xean>> because there was one time where you were not
__>>Xean : taking up for people when i dont believe your choices were correct makes me a backstabber?
__Xean>> so if you are an ass now, which is different from that one time in the past, pretty obvious there was a
__Xean>> change
__Xean>> oh you wanna discuss this?
__Xean>> because I will gladly talk about it
__Xean>> i will break every point you have like i do everyone else
__>>Xean : ok do it
__>>Kelga : lol he is calling me a back stabber? wtf
__Xean>> then start explaining why you dont believe in the choice :/
__>>Xean : which one?
__>>Xean : the kirameki thing?
__Xean>> doesnt matter
__Xean>> doesnt matter
__>>Xean : because i know kirameki wouldnt call zer a heffer he would say something much more creative
__Xean>> LOL
__Xean>> you do a great job proving why my choice is right
__>>Xean : that is why i thought it was bullshit.. and im sure he might have called someone fat so what?
__Xean>> yes, its ok to be creative in how you offend somebody
__Xean>> is that correct, jos?
__>>Xean : sure xean
__Xean>> because he said it in malice. -that is why-
__Xean>> you cant even answer something that is meant to confirm what you believe in
__Xean>> because i just showed the problem with it
__>>Xean : you know what your "correct" because you see a problem and i dont
__Xean>> so answer me then
__>>Xean : and because you think you are always correct that is my problem
__Xean>> it is ok to be creative in how you offend someone?
__Xean>> it is ok to be creative in how you offend someone?
__Xean>> it is ok to be creative in how you offend someone?
__Xean>> it is ok to be creative in how you offend someone?
__Xean>> answer the question
__>>Xean : that isnt important
__Xean>> its not?
__Xean>> its not important that people intentionally offend others
__>>Xean : i just knew he didnt call her a heffer
__Xean>> like you said, he did it in 'creative' ways
__>>Xean : if he was trying to intentionally offend her im sure saying to her would be how it was done
__Xean>> but thats still ok according to your morals, apparently
__Xean>> some people are afraid to do that because of what has happened - which is me removing him
__>>Xean : when did i say he did it in creative ways?
__Xean>> if he did that, he'd be gone instantly
__Xean>> kirameki is a little smarter than you make him out to be
__Xean>> damn jos
__Xean>> now i have to quote you
__>>Xean : when have i stated anything about kirameki's intelligence?
__Xean>> "he would say something much more creative"
__>>Xean : i said he would
__>>Xean : i didnt say he did
__Xean>> because he HAS
__Xean>> i dont need you to tell me he didnt because others have tol dme
__Xean>> told me*
__Xean>> nice try attempting to fool me though
__>>Xean : well what does that have to do with me saying that it is ok to offend someone creatively?
__>>Xean : trying to fool you?
__>>Xean : man do you think everyone is trying to make a fool of you?
__Xean>> "im sure he might have called someone fat (in creative ways of course) so what?"
__Xean>> no jos
__Xean>> people cover up their stuff with lies and false acts
__Xean>> that shit dont fly by me
__>>Xean : so stuff like that is said all the time
__>>Xean : like calling people gay and dumbasses
__>>Xean : but all that other shit does fly by you
__Xean>> what shit jos?
__Xean>> you ever notice something
__Kelga>> you still talking to him?
__>>Xean : but if the joke is about you or zer you are quick to boot someone
__>>Kelga : ya
__Xean>> that i never controlled anyone about the topics they talked about, with the exception that it is not offendin
__Xean>> another
__Kelga>> save everything
__Xean>> no jos
__Kelga>> mine is short so i'll send mine to you
__>>Kelga : my ss isnt working
__Kelga>> FACK!
__Kelga>> write it down!!
__Kelga>> j/k
__Xean>> but good job trying to put it all on me like im some biased person
__Kelga>> or got a digicam?
__Xean>> i have never told anyone to shut up about what they talk about, the only thing i will absolutely not allow is
__Xean>> intents and motives to really offend another
__Xean>> what else, jos?
__>>Xean : you are not saying anything worthwhile atm xean repeatedly defending yourself over something nonimportant
__Xean>> what is not important?
__Xean>> of course its not worthwhile to you
__>>Xean : nothing matters man im gone your happy we are good
__Xean>> that doesnt make it worthwhile inherently
__Xean>> you cant argue for your beliefs, apparently
__>>Xean : because talking you is pointless all i will get is excuses about shit and it means nothing because you are
__>>Xean : like a brick wall anyway
__>>Xean : i have nothing to argue with yo
__Xean>> a brick wall because I have firm beliefs in what is right and know what is right
__Xean>> im not some relativistic person who doesnt give a shit like lots of people
__Xean>> who talk about shit so casually
__Xean>> who dont care about anything important
__>>Xean : yes you always know what is right one day you may learn something GROW UP
__Xean>> lol
__>>Xean : life is full of insults and jokes get over it
__Xean>> i need to grow up
__Xean>> LOL
__Xean>> you think i dont know that?
__Xean>> lol!
__Xean>> OF COURSE IT IS
__Xean>> you wanna do it? fine! you aint in my shell then
__>>Xean : cool im done talking to ya man
__>>Xean : [Take care.]
__Xean>> yup
__Xean>> good job failing at defending your amoral beliefs, and good job at having turned away from being what you
__Xean>> once called a friendship
__Xean>> i sure hope your conscience bites you with reality one day, though it'll be too late then
__>>Xean : what i believed was friendship was bullshit obviously because you havent turned out to be anything but a
__Xean>> really jos
__>>Xean : selfrightious dick
__>>Xean : you have a lot to learn
__Xean>> mhm
__Xean>> im not the one who messes up my life, so you are in no place to tell me that
__>>Xean : i may be immature in game but i have been through more shit than you can imagine
__Xean>> maybe because you dont think yourself to learn
__>>Xean : so i made my mistakes?
__>>Xean : i have learned and im in a better place now
__Xean>> just because you made mistakes doesnt mean you are in a place to tell me i have a lot to learn
__Xean>> good, jos, thats good
__Xean>> at least you do learn from your mistakes hopefully
__Xean>> maybe you might learn from this one as well when you're older
__>>Xean : i have and i hope you do as well.. i wish you well
__>>Xean : lol ok [Take care.] im seriously done dont [/tell] again
__>>Kelga : had parser on so i got it all
__Kelga>> cool
__>>Kelga : what is your email again?
__Kelga>> [email protected]
__Kelga>> u done talking to him?
__>>Kelga : ya i told him dont tell me again
__Xean>> btw good job providing evidence that kirameki did call her a heffer, since i never even brought that word or
__Xean>> anything similar like that up
__>>Xean : i knew the reason he was booted and you knew i did so? [Leave]
__Kelga>> let me know when it's sent
__Xean>> you just keep proving everything against what you say
__Kelga>> i'll reply with the SS
__Xean>> if you want me to leave then blist me
__Xean>> if you cant stand what i keep telling you
__Xean>> because its all true
__>>Xean : you are just repeating yourself and its annoying so i will /blist you if you really insist on spamming me
__Xean>> good
__Xean>> all you do is prove the truth
__>>Xean : i was trying not to be an asshole in return but if i must
__Xean>> trying not to be an asshole? you kept acting like you didnt know what was up in the beginning
__Xean>> and then you try covering up other issues but you only succeeded at letting me know you knew about them
__>>Xean : i didnt know the reason.. but that is one think i could think of and wasnt going to state it because i wanted
__>>Xean : to see your reason
__>>Xean : i didnt try to cover anything at all
__Xean>> you shouldnt try to test me for truth
__Xean>> i dont lie
__>>Xean : you have anything else to say?
__Xean>> does it even matter?
__>>Xean : no
__Xean>> ok then
__>>Kawanomu : sup
__>>Xean : bye
__Kawanomu>> nm u?
__>>Kawanomu : just got booted from tbh lol
__Kawanomu>> what happened
__>>Kawanomu : lol stupid shit me giving kirameki a pearl back
__>>Kawanomu : you in this ls yet?
__Kawanomu>> what ls?
__>>Kawanomu : seventh ministry
__Kawanomu>> nah, whos in
__>>Kawanomu : tbh members who dont agree with zer and xeans socialism
__Kawanomu>> hook me up
__>>Kawanomu : kelga reiyn etc
__>>Kelga : can u get me a sac on mahas shell kawa is here and wants a shell
__>>Kawanomu : dont think i have a sac one sec
__Kelga>> on akaitenshi?
__>>Kelga : seventh ministry
__>>Kelga : u have a sac?
__Kawanomu>> kk
__>>Kawanomu : ah ill get you one later im not sacked yet
__Kelga>> yeah i do, but i'm not in that shell
__Kawanomu>> kk;p
__Kelga>> i'm in katsusatsu
__>>Kelga : i dont have that other one
__Kelga>> hey hold on lemme talk to amsen see if i can get u guys in

I think that is all i need to say.

 

[Kirameki]

The Night Crew Manifesto

I would like to express my extreme disappointment in the way that this was all handled. General discord was sown a few months ago when Zerayla had made an MT to the entire LS that some members of TBH were not as helpful as they use to be. This truly cut deep with some of us, and to others (such as myself), cause a complete loss of respect.

What had occurred, by natural fact of time zones and work schedules was essentially two sets of people who played in the same LS. Affectionately referred to as the Day Crew and the Night Crew. The night crew was those who were on late hours of PST. Some because of work (Kelga) and some because they lived either in other parts of the world (Myself, Japan). Nothing malicious was intended in the forming of these groups.

The Night Crew for the most part, were comprised of professionals. By which I mean people who were established in their careers and could not devote a massive amount of time to a game.

It is from this inability to play during the Day Crews hours that a fracture arose. Zerayla, in her misstell had made it quite clear that certain members where not as helpful as she once thought they were. On a private forum owned and operated by her, discourse also ran rampant. Those on the Night Crew expressed certain amounts of outrage at what they felt was being called useless and leeches. We also, for the most part refused to, or didn't care to use these forums. There was a certain spontaneity among the members of the Night Crew that many of us felt added a certain spice.

We were random. Had some pinache. A joi de vie. Ok, we were batshit insane. But we liked it that way. If we fucked up (like I did once) and truely hurt another players feelings, we owned up to our mistakes. But we also ripped the ever loving shit out of each other. Every night was like a drunken frat house of players. We were the jolliest bunch of arseholes this side of the nuthouse. We gave just as well as we expected to receive.

If there was nothing immediately pressing, we of the night crew would drop whatever useless thing we were doing and help another person out. EX: I rallied 3 other people form the LS to redo the Windy 9-2 mission for one other player (Kiersten). Yet somehow, we are leeches and don't assist each other? There was serious disconnect.

Mid-December a great deal of favoritism started to make itself become widely apparent to all but the dimmest of members. If you were not part of Zerayla and Xean's inner circle, you were a second class denizen at beset. Choice comments placed by both led to a certain degree of animosity to be fomented amongst us of the night crew, and several others.

Most recently, probably the straw the set everything in motion, was a player, by the name of Standpoint. Nothing against him, classy guy and whats more I respect him. Why might you ask? Well, he was a jerk, he made a mistake, yet owned up to his mistake and apologized. Chose to step back from the situation and act like a rational adult. Then Zerayla had to open her fat mouth. She defended his actions which had truly hurt a fellow LS member. If this was not open favoritism, then it clearly showed that she didn't care about some of the other members under her wing, and that the rules of the LS only applied to those whom SHE chose. Worse yet, if there was a topic on the forums they personally didn't care for, deletion would occur almost immediately, and appeals would fall upon deaf ears.

Most recently, it came out about our late night joshing. That we had been talking about Zerayla. Yet, I was the only one being accused. Worse yet, the information that they had was completely false. I had apparently called Zerayla a "heffer". That this was ground for my expulsion from TBH combined with the rest of my generally 'rude behaviour'. Yet at that time, another 6-10 members of the LS were equally as guilty as the same crime I was being accused of.

Xean had offered to give me a chance to explain myself. This of course was a bold faced lie. For while I was mid discussion with him, I happened to attempt to login to the TBH forums. yet to my surprise, I was banned. Which meant he had no intention WHAT SO EVER of offering me the opportunity to defend myself. He had every intention of banning me. Yet refused initially to ban the others.

Kelga, Reiyn and Josudes were only banned for letting me back into the LS. For they too felt that I was wrongly expelled. As they were also guilty of my crime. Were they booted for those actions? No, they were booted because they allowed me back in. Showing that if you don't agree with each and every action of Zerayla and Xean take in TBH, you will be booted.




And for the record I NEVER ONCE called Zerayla a Heffer. In joking I did refer to her as a Whale, combined with many a Moby Dick reference. Also I was noted as saying "OH THE HUGE MANATEE" Manatee's of course being sea cows could be the only possible extrapolation in which "heffer" could be derived.

Thank you for you time in reading the brief, yet wonderful history of the Night Crew. Currently seeking a new home thanks to a couple of douche bags.

 

[Isomiau]

Holy wall of who gives a fuck Batman!

 

[Kirameki]

Sorry, one further addendum. Thanks to Josudes giving me a pearl before his sack was shattered, I still have an active pearl to TBH, not only for my main, but also my mule. Which I will fondly keep as a reminder.

 

[Josudes]

Holy wall of who gives a fuck Batman!

Hmm.. Obviously you are not aware of the past situations with those two. If you have no interest then why post?

 

[Isollde]

Wow, ... I'm sorry to hear this Jos. ;-;

 

[Ruffyreborn]

Sorry Josudes... You have my sympathy, even if you dont want it, lol. I understand how you feel.

Im comin back in feb, cant wait to talk to all the people Ive been waiting to, lol

 

[Josudes]

Sorry Josudes... You have my sympathy, even if you dont want it, lol. I understand how you feel.

Im comin back in feb, cant wait to talk to all the people Ive been waiting to, lol

Doesn't hurt to have sympathy. I probably should have left when you did.

 

[Kirlua]

Something worth reading in flameboard after a long time... (I'll read it later lol)

 

[Uzor]

Wall-of-tells is too long to read ~.~ My head hurts ; ;

anyway~ don't see how you get so pissed over someone saying people aren't as useful as they used to be.

 

[Isomiau]

Hmm.. Obviously you are not aware of the past situations with those two. If you have no interest then why post?

lets pretend i am, in fact, don't pretend. Obbbbbbviously you must not be aware, because seemingly you're one of the feeble willed clowns who stuck around in this sorry sack of shit shell.

I'ma go find a funneh picture now...

 

[Lecreuset]

KS99 just got my beard, posting in before lock if coming! lol

 

[Josudes]

Wall-of-tells is too long to read ~.~ My head hurts ; ;

anyway~ don't see how you get so pissed over someone saying people aren't as useful as they used to be.

lol.. That isn't what this is about at all... If anyone remembers the whole Soulstar ninjalotting shit and me taking up for Xean and Zer.. oh and sticking in that "Sack of shit shell" I made the mistake like I said. Now I regret it and I apologize to all of those whom I made blatantly stupid comments to regarding Xean and Zer...

 

[Silenus]

KS99 just got my beard, posting in before lock if coming! lol

Grats!

And why do I suddenly feel like I can read Japanese?

 

[Uzor]

lol.. That isn't what this is about at all... If anyone remembers the whole Soulstar ninjalotting shit and me taking up for Xean and Zer.. oh and sticking in that "Sack of shit shell" I made the mistake like I said. Now I regret it and I apologize to all of those whom I made blatantly stupid comments to regarding Xean and Zer...

I forgive you. You use the same face/hair type I do. Anyone with such awesome hair must be cool.

 

[Kirameki]

That was just the tip of her being a dosey twunt. Anytime she wanted to get out of helping anyone she would bitch about us not using the forums. And ran the LS with Nazi a like tendency towards anything that went outside her own little bubble. Myrrh and several others left because of Xean and Zerayla's behaviour. Sadly we never took the fraking hint.

 

[Lecreuset]

Grats!

And why do I suddenly feel like I can read Japanese?

No idea man! :O

Get me the other two pieces.

Also, I'm sorry this happened Jos.

I have to stomach being in another LS w/them, I've almost quit several times just so I wouldn't have to hear the pissing and moaning done around but I wanted to keep my points, and I really like everyone else, they're a great bunch and always keep their heads up and do anything to get the job done if we can.

They're like a plague that never quite really go away.

One's a wigger who shows up half the time and somehow got a point boost in our LS from some bunk combining points crap, who doesn't have to show, except to lot on gear...

The other is a hard worker with a good attenance, decent at the job called upon to do, but pisses and moans too much. In fact if it weren't for all the pissing and moaning, I'd probably <3 this one and say she's too good for wiggerachi and shouldn't be doing all his end-game work for him.

I actually have them on ignore here and blacklisted 95% of the time, in-game except for god pops.

I normally find it in poor taste to open my mouth against someone I'm in a Linkshell with, regardless of my feelings of the matter; however this is just a prime example of horseshit at its finest and I'm truly sickened by the fact I'm in some way, shape or form associated with them.

I don't expect people to put their balls on the line and come out of the woodwork to share their own horror stories, but you just show us that the more things supposedly change, the more they stay the same...except Myrrh wasn't there to have something jacked from under him.

You and I butt heads before Jos, but overall you seemed like a good guy.

Haven't been disappointed by you since.

There are better socials out there to take in quality people such as yourself and your LSmates who were removed and I'm sure many of them would love you have you.

Good luck bro.

 

[Isomiau]

imagesh!t is being teh gai and my funnehs wont load....

so yall getting a history lesson instead...

learn something from the past, oh and for everyone else playing the game

Spoiler:

you just lost it

 

[Arctyrael]

KS99 just got my beard, posting in before lock if coming! lol

No lock. You should know this by now. The FB is almost anarchy again. Almost~

 

[Isollde]

No lock. You should know this by now. The FB is almost anarchy again. Almost~

Shoosh and go bake me a pie. <3~ ... IDK its early and im bored. ilu