I need some advice

yea.... could you elaborate as to why you do that? lol she tells me i'm the closest friend she has and then she pushes me away, shes fkn complicated but i care for her, so my concience (sp?) is always gonna fuck me over when i try to get too distant

ummm... I dont think I can XD, because women are complicated. And I dunno if thats the case with her as well. Maybe she only wants you as friend and pushes you away because she does not want more but on the other hand you are her friend and she does not wanna lose you.

I dont know how to explain it... but maybe she expects you to behave/do a thing in a certain way that proves her your love/affaction to her :crazy:

Anyway, I dont know her and I dont know her feeling towards you. Talk to her and tell her what you are thinking and ask her honestly about her feeling to you and then make your decision. That's what I suggest.
 
It's really not worth your time, nor the emotional toll, to carry a torch for this girl for "X" number of years, only to have her introduce you as her friend to her new bf.

Verily, this man knows a good thing.

Tok, listen to everyone in this thread's advice, but take special note of what Bed has said here.

Had it happen to me once, and in terms of a failed relationship, nothing hurts worse than
introduce you as her friend to her new bf.

Likewise, carrying around any kind of scars from her has a vast potential to only hurt you in future relationships. Meaning, you could possibly look for those things again (because your guard is up) and as such, you open yourself for misinterpretation.

It's sketchy, it's complicated, it never gets easier, but hey: that's life, dude.


Best of luck to you :)
 
i really appriciate everything guys

sometime in the near future ill be sitting her down and voicing my concerns and such hopefully it wont go too badly lol
 
i really appriciate everything guys

sometime in the near future ill be sitting her down and voicing my concerns and such hopefully it wont go too badly lol

ProTip: Keep her CALM! A huge problem that can and will occur without moderation is the converstationg turning into a fight. When it turns into a fight things get said that arent meant, which is bad for both parties, but particularly you.

If she starts getting frustrated or pissed off just try to calm her down, keep eye contact, and make sure she knows that your worried and are willing to do whatever to fix whatever the problem is.

^^ works every time in my case, im sure im running out of chances though.
 
Tok, I know you've been dealing with this for a while now. And I know it's a difficult thing to go through, having gone through something similar myself years ago. Forgive me for the lengthy post in advance.

Change is the hardest thing to accept for most people. Especially when you are the one who stayed the same and are left to wonder what happened to your relationship. I'm not a religious person, but the serenity "prayer" sums it up the best really: "Please grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." You know that she is no longer treating you the way you wish to be treated; you know that the feeling you once felt when you were with her has now become confusion, sadness and resentment. You cannot change the way she is or the choices she makes. You can only choose how you react to them. You need to start focusing on you and not depend on her to bring you happiness or fulfillment.

As far as her continually coming back around to you, it screams insecurity to me. She's obviously making huge changes in her life, and that is an intimidating, uncertain time for anyone. It seems to me that she wants to move on and wants to do so by jumping in with both feet, but she keeps coming back to the one source of reassurance and comfort she always had: you. It's quite possible that since she has pushed everyone else away (and probably pissed a good deal of them off in doing so), and she knows you love her and will always open your arms to her, she will continue to feed on your willingness to bolster her up and make her feel better about herself. That sounds kind of sinister, and I don't want you to misunderstand that I am saying she's doing something intentionally malicious; that's not it at all. I'm just saying, especially at her age, it's a strong possibility that she is subconsciously using you to ease her anxieties over this transitional period. Allowing her to do so is not particularly healthy for you, as it means you're going to be holding on to a thread that is wearing painfully thin. Someday she's going to cut that tie, or it's going to snap. I know it's painful to hear but, she's made her choice... everything she's doing and her clear disregard for how it is affecting you speaks volumes. What you need to decide is how you wish to remember what you had: as something that caused you increasing sadness and disappointment until it finally died or turned into something ugly, or as something that was special and loving and ended on mature, regret-free terms.

I'll leave it at that, I've gone on too long I guess. Just don't allow yourself to be used and manipulated by the memory of what you once had. There's nothing wrong with loving her as long as you feel it, but she's moved on, and so must you. Take care of yourself, I wish you the best.
 
it's funny, i've gotten more support and advice from you guys here and other friends on the game then i have from my rl "friends"

i appriciate it from the bottom of my heart i really do <3
 
I had a relationship like this. It only ended when I walked away completely. I want to remind you that you were right at your very first post when you said that she's not the person you fell in love with.

You're not the person who fell in love with her. Sounds like you're a decent guy, and it's going to hit you hard that she's changed into a person you think of as less than the girl you loved. I know that a piece of what was hardest for me was feeling like the girl I was involved with became a little less of the person she was because I walked away -- she reacted against losing me, and tried to put on the whole thing a face of her not needing anybody, which is going to lead her into very real sadness.

I'm really sorry to hear you're in a situation that sounds similar. One of the things I tell people I took away from the clean break is this: "What you learn from walking through hell is that you can walk through hell and be alive on the other side."

It's not much, but it's something, and I wholly agree with Raes that hopefully you can take more good memories than bad away from this.

Also, a mistake I made was not taking time to mourn losing the relationship I lost. I had to do it later, and it was harder because my family and friends didn't understand why I needed to return to that moment. Some moments you don't leave, though, until you sort through them, even if you're physically years later. Some of the pieces I didn't return to until I was with somebody else who I finally cared about enough to clear my head of the crap I had been keeping there out of a sense of obligation to someone who didn't want my obligation any more.

Keep the faith, man, you loved someone worth your loving; she's not there anymore, and the best thing you can do for her memory is get the man she loved out of a bad relationship with the woman who took over her life. Take your good memories, be as kind as you're able, but be responsible to yourself.

And, of course, feel free to reject the advice of an internet stranger if I came off too crazy.
 
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