I quit. (post of the year)

[RoM]

done, didnt mean for this to come to the FB anyway, but i guess it was inevitable and i didnt think ahead. oh well.

This i have a real hard time believing but, much obliged

 

[Reya]

Um where did u get this info? We have actually killed him the last 9 days in a row thank you. And sadly your ls people come to mpk when we get charmed since THEY CANT KILL IT. Oh and your ls has such awesome skills? lol

Just adding in a bit since I was there >_> we showed up to kill the NM after your group wiped to it like 2-3 times. So it wasn't like we were stepping on your toes or taking the NM.

And as for not killing it? I think we only need one or two more kotes total from that NM since we've killed it so many times ^_^; And I think like one more P. Harpe.

Anyways, continue n.n;

 

[Chasym]

Like i said im not pissed. I dont really care. I have been jailed and suspended a grand total of 0 times playing. If i came on here and said u hacked by just assuming you do im sure u would come back with a reply that you didnt.

just cause you didnt get caught dont mean shit, one of the biggest hackers in the game i know has never been caught at all.
Hell cyro has never been flagged either.

 

[Lavi]

i didnt quit myself no, cause i started the hacks and stopped it when i stopped supplying.
Kabrina quit the shell.

I was referring to Kabrina. She had been in the shell for a bit if I recall correctly although I wasn't personally in the shell. If she wants to stand all high and mighty, she shouldn't have participated and make a decision as soon as she knew. But how long did she stay? A month? Two? More? More than enough time to know, get her gear and claim she left when she found out. Now, I don't know her personally, but everything I've seen and heard of her is "Loot whore" and I'd be surprised to think she'd let a little cheating get in the way at least as long as she can before she jumps ship to the next best thing.

 

[quitita]

Just adding in a bit since I was there >_> we showed up to kill the NM after your group wiped to it like 2-3 times. So it wasn't like we were stepping on your toes or taking the NM.

And as for not killing it? I think we only need one or two more kotes total from that NM since we've killed it so many times ^_^; And I think like one more P. Harpe.

Anyways, continue n.n;

That was like a month or more ago??? and it wasnt 10 people we had 2 smns a thf and a mnk there that was it and we tried it for fun waiting on people to show up.

 

[Hmkiroko]

He might be referring to the time where some members showed up to Xolotl.

My aren't you observant. When we show up to Xolotl with 4, what do you think we are doing? Legitimately trying to kill it?

I think it's closer along the lines of trying to fuck with you, given your complete ignorance as displayed with the Love Torque > Vang and Necrosis. You need new standards in regards to your views on acceptable THF gear.

 

[Chasym]

Just adding in a bit since I was there >_> we showed up to kill the NM after your group wiped to it like 2-3 times. So it wasn't like we were stepping on your toes or taking the NM.

And as for not killing it? I think we only need one or two more kotes total from that NM since we've killed it so many times ^_^; And I think like one more P. Harpe.

Anyways, continue n.n;

lol i remember when i was there for Cop mission and we ran outside and gil sellers were wiping to it and i cast dia on it and killed it from 1% with my 51 pld XD

 

[quitita]

just cause you didnt get caught dont mean shit, one of the biggest hackers in the game i know has never been caught at all.
Hell cyro has never been flagged either.

Yeh but you are only assuming i cheat. You shouldnt have listed my name on there unless you had proof i do. The people you listed you have proof because they get the hacks from you. You will never have any proof because i play on ps2.

 

[Chasym]

Yeh but you are only assuming i cheat. You shouldnt have listed my name on there unless you had proof i do. The people you listed you have proof because they get the hacks from you. You will never have any proof because i play on ps2.

i think your time in the hack forums and the screenshot of that convo and your following post was enough.
im not assuming quit, i know you cheated. You wont admit it on your lolps2, i used that excuse all the time "i dont hack, i cant, im on ps2".
but move on man. you apparently didnt do anything so no need to keep up the defensive show.

 

[Uzor]

i think your time in the hack forums and the screenshot of that convo and your following post was enough.
im not assuming quit, i know you cheated. You wont admit it on your lolps2, i used that excuse all the time "i dont hack, i cant, im on ps2".
but move on man. you apparently didnt do anything so no need to keep up the defensive show.

What screenshot? The one I find is from Cyro =/

That is only partially true. Most people will defend themselves to prove they're not guilty. If a GM comes and sends you a tell that you MPK'd someone you didn't, and tell you you will be banned, that person will sure as hell defend himself. He won't just sit there quiet and say "Meh, I'm innocent" and then /blist the GM.

 

[quitita]

You need new standards in regards to your views on acceptable THF gear.

Yeh because love torque is like the worst neck peice for thf. I dont go boasting about the gear i have; unless it is in ls just messing around. And to vang of course because he is so overwhelmed about his limbus items that are soooo hard to get.

 

[Blancho]

This doesn't add up. If someone had a voke bot and used it regularly enough in front of gs's that they report them for cheating how they could possibly be poor?

Was even before then. I don't know Chasym that well (other then doing some things through the years with him) but I also did a fuck load of stromper chyme camping my self got 3 in like 4 hours one night. Was fucking awesome. But I have known of Chasym for a very long time now we both started playing about the same time and I saw him camping stromper alot also.

 

[Hmkiroko]

Repeating Vangs arguement here:

Would a real Thief do this?

http://www.qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=34916

Continue.

 

[Chasym]

What screenshot? The one I find is from Cyro =/

the one where tisbolo says he has the video and quit says grays is taking care of it.
the fact he wanted access to that section at all, the fact he fleetooled all the time. he will not admit it, im not expecting him to. so he should just move on from it and play the game if hes got nothin to hide.

 

[quitita]

i think your time in the hack forums and the screenshot of that convo and your following post was enough.
im not assuming quit, i know you cheated. You wont admit it on your lolps2, i used that excuse all the time "i dont hack, i cant, im on ps2".
but move on man. you apparently didnt do anything so no need to keep up the defensive show.

You dont have any screen shots of me actually downloading cheats from you or wanting information about them. If so id like to see them.

 

[quitita]

the one where tisbolo says he has the video and quit says grays is taking care of it.
the fact he wanted access to that section at all, the fact he fleetooled all the time. he will not admit it, im not expecting him to. so he should just move on from it and play the game if hes got nothin to hide.

Wheres this video? lol

 

[Firestreak]

Alright I'll say my piece on this which is pretty much going to be one of the few times my ego'll let me admit I was wrong.

First off, from a personal angle - as I've said before. I'm from other games like Asheron's call and have adopted pretty much a "I don't give a shit about cheating" attitude because that's how it was in that game.

Til the OH scandal, cheating was not really discussed widely on these boards, there were plenty of rumors floating around in-game, and plenty of finger pointing at all the different shells and especially towards the Japanese shells. After my first sky shell broke, which was a combination of the same shell with 2 names led by first Nnep and then Neise, I decided to just chill and level.
At this point, for a year or so I leveled instead of doing endgame and merited and built up good gear and some gil reserves, only doing smalltime NMs when people offered and KS and BCs, nothing big. I think one time Svina invited me to help tank Aspido on my Paladin and I think that was it.

Well they offered me to join OH if I wanted to and they were the only shell that tried to CC the Japanese in endgame, and I wasn't interested in sky, as at the time all my jobs already had sky gear and that's the only thing other shells were doing. There was like BoL and Valkys in sky, Ascention doing their wyrm thing and OH was doing Fafnir and some other kings. So I thought it might be fun and joined.

For a year or so there weren't any hacks used, it wasn't until Prophecy disappeared at which point I've referenced that from then on the real OH - like the one where we legitly did a lot of great things, was no more. I could have quit when I saw people starting to use hacks, but I didn't really care to be honest so I felt leaving the LS would be wrong if I don't actually have a personal problem.

I wanted to leave because we never did anything. As in, I never got my Yingyang robes as one of the oldest members because people wouldn't leave their exp parties to help me. I considered quitting then but instead I just logged on less.

I'll talk about this Jamal incident. Chasym was telling me around this point he had a video of Jamal flee hacking. Various people were telling me all sorts of rumors about different shells using hacks. Some of which I confirmed, many of which I took them on their word. Nobody talked about hacks and I just figured it was "understood" people used hacks. Then Farys posted some video showing Prophecy, to which all these people I'd been under the impression were in shells that hacked started to talk shit about it on QCDN.

To which I was confused. And Chasym was telling me he had a fucking video of Jamal flee hacking. Hence it was around this time I decided to tell Neo in private message that his own people weren't so clean. Neo then talked to his shell about this private message and then Almaut called me out on this.

I wanted to respond at this point with "aha!" and show them Chasym's video, only when I asked him for it, he explained it wasn't very solid and could be explained away with lag. To which I was personally upset. If you recall, when this was going on some people pointed out Chasym was saying who was hacking on the OH news about something or other.

So I am sorry, Jamal, now you know why I said your name in that Private message to Neo. I didn't intentionally lie, I got fed bullshit, and then didn't want to say "well Chasym told me there was a video" because he was still a linkshell member.

That was the first time I'd ever accused anyone of hacking and the last time as well.

I decided on this post when Chasym said he'd call out anyone who claimed they didn't hack because he doesn't like hypocrites(it's actually lying not being a hypocrite, but let's not squabble over diction), that, knowing I don't hack myself.

After Chasym named Uzor among a few others I've never seen hack or honestly could imagine hacking I decided to have a little personal test if Chasym is really full of shit or not. The bait was myself, and of course, being as I'm the only one who can know I've never hacked, it's only a workable test for me.

Well Chasym bit, so I knew one of 2 things must be true...

1) Chasym jumps to the conclusion of hacker without actually being able to know it.
2) Chasym is outright willing to lie to accuse others of hacking.

I figured it was number 1 for the longest time. But being a self professed king of hacking, I think if I as a shellmate of his for a while had used hacks he'd know about it. If he said "well I saw you moving fast once" I'd have taken it as a fluke. But that he says tons of times, just shows he's drawing straws. Because there's no way he could have mistakenly seen me hacking "tons of times." I'm either a hacker or he's a liar. There's no middle ground here.

To which I'm sorry to Alm and Jamal. Put my trust in someone I thought first was unreliable but now I see is just a liar. It was my fault for perpetuating without ample evidence on a personal level. It wasn't an intentional lie on my part, it was a mistake and my fault and I'll man up to being wrong.

 

[Chasym]

Wheres this video? lol

ask tisbolo, why would i have his video?

 

[quitita]

Repeating Vangs arguement here:

Would a real Thief do this?

http://www.qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=34916

Continue.

Sorry for asking questions about a certain job. Im sure you never asked anyone EVER for help on anything. I got alot of helpful information from nasya and it has helped me alot.

 

[Uzor]

the one where tisbolo says he has the video and quit says grays is taking care of it.
the fact he wanted access to that section at all, the fact he fleetooled all the time. he will not admit it, im not expecting him to. so he should just move on from it and play the game if hes got nothin to hide.

you mean this one?

http://www.outerheavenls.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=301&sid=fad5faaa0b5e54c6e5decf68fe402598

That one is from Cyro, not Quit