I quit. (post of the year)

Sirelrohir said:
Well, there ya have it chasym. Do you know of anyone in kaizen thats hacked? They wanna know, so if you do, you should tell em. Its a community service after all. =)

If there is proof sure, but I don't think anyone but you are going to take someone whose lied word for it lol
 
Crosis said:
If there is proof sure, but I don't think anyone but you are going to take someone whose lied word for it lol

why not, u like believing things w/o proof, unless its your friends or ls. I dont see why he would lie about anything anyway. And i'd be willing to bet i wouldnt be the only one to believe him.
 
Sirelrohir said:
why not, u like believing things w/o proof, unless its your friends or ls. I dont see why he would lie about anything anyway. And i'd be willing to bet i wouldnt be the only one to believe him.

Really? I don't see me going after Hellstorm for hacking even though Chasym said he did it. If he brings proof then sure. You on otherhand just believe it.
 
Crosis said:
Really? I don't see me going after Hellstorm for hacking even though Chasym said he did it. If he brings proof then sure. You on otherhand just believe it.

Well, then im glad you learned something and changed your ways. I'm proud of you.
 
Zalbag said:
I think 1+1=3, doesn't make me right. SE says flee hacking and botting is cheating, they are the gods of the FF world in a way. So how each person feels about it doesn't change the fact that its cheating.

You're in Kaizen right? Not sure, I really honestly don't know. But I believe you are and you're probably friends with Crosis, Neo and probably Jamal as well. All three of them argued Windower is not a cheat and yet, SE states it is. I see some inconsistancy is all. They want to tell me it's not, but here you are telling because SE says it is, it is, the very same justification I had been giving them about windower. Now, I know windower has very little interaction with other players, but so does flee hacking and POS warping when just used to get to places faster and not in direct competitions.

Neo, the reason no one else responds, is not because you are right, but because no one cares. It's not exactly earth shattering one way or the other.
 
Lavi said:
You're in Kaizen right? Not sure, I really honestly don't know. But I believe you are and you're probably friends with Crosis, Neo and probably Jamal as well. All three of them argued Windower is not a cheat and yet, SE states it is. I see some inconsistancy is all. They want to tell me it's not, but here you are telling because SE says it is, it is, the very same justification I had been giving them about windower. Now, I know windower has very little interaction with other players, but so does flee hacking and POS warping when just used to get to places faster and not in direct competitions.

Yeah because only the four of us on the entire qcdn boards argued against windower being a cheat comparable to flee hacking and POS warping. Are both cheats by SE standards, yes. As a community does the majority think windower is? Nope, and that is the difference which you don't seem to understand.

Sirelrohir said:
Well, then im glad you learned something and changed your ways. I'm proud of you.

Looks like your just a hypocrite though. You go on and on about how I say I had no proof of you hacking, yet here you are doing the same thing. Pot meet kettle. Oh and have fun in Limbus with them cheaters! So sad, Limbus isn't even hard.
 
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Crosis said:
lol Its so pathetic how bitter you are. Still upset that we claimed Tiamat after NH wiped to it months ago and it was fair game at 100%. How about you stop worrying about us and look at the people you associate with since a ton of them hack and have been caught.



First off wall of fucking text, learn to use ENTER. You don't need to be good at English for that.

What exactly are you right about? Please tell us. And we blow things out of proportion? This is you Hellstorm, with good grammar.

1. Buying Autumnstones from unknown bazaars, how dare you!? It's a 99.9% chance that it comes from RMT, don't ask me how I came up with this statistic but that is right. How could you not remember every single bazaar you have been to in the last year and record the names?

2. Parsing is cheating.

3. My LS Andres cheats and hacks but I don't see it, theres no evidence online or anything that shows it.



You are such a stupid twit. Get over the comparsion of the analogy and focus on the point he was making. Though that would require some actual critical thinking.
he give the right analogy and i will, but bank robbery come on now.

parse is cheating? yep it is. yet you still treat it as a program that was interduced with the game. I would not even brought it up except till this day you act like it nothing.

uli stones- look at the odds in appox last 6 months (maybe longer) gil sellers have moved into sky using warp tool and pocketsniffer and a ph renamer program. There also has been a increase in sky shells. So yes there a 99.9% chance that those stones you have bought from unmark bazaar in BD was infact rmt. Am I saying all the stones that you have gotten from are rmt? course not. Am I saying it wrong to buy uli stone? course not. Am I saying that the odds that 9/10 of stones that you have bought from BD from unmark or unknown ls was rmt very good chance of it.
 
I hope this topic isn't going to become another "is windower a cheat?" debate. This has been discussed into the ground in dozens of topics. We can circlejerk about this for 10 pages or we can just drop it now and everyone can agree to disagree about it. Considering we've seen it so many times before, I'd prefer the latter.
 
hellstorm said:
he give the right analogy and i will, but bank robbery come on now.

parse is cheating? yep it is. yet you still treat it as a program that was interduced with the game. I would not even brought it up except till this day you act like it nothing.

uli stones- look at the odds in appox last 6 months (maybe longer) gil sellers have moved into sky using warp tool and pocketsniffer and a ph renamer program. There also has been a increase in sky shells. So yes there a 99.9% chance that those stones you have bought from unmark bazaar in BD was infact rmt. Am I saying all the stones that you have gotten from are rmt? course not. Am I saying it wrong to buy uli stone? course not. Am I saying that the odds that 9/10 of stones that you have bought from BD from unmark or unknown ls was rmt very good chance of it.

Yet the cheating your LS does is fine and dandy eh? Glad you glanced over that.
 
Crosis said:
Looks like your just a hypocrite though. You go on and on about how I say I had no proof of you hacking, yet here you are doing the same thing. Pot meet kettle. Oh and have fun in Limbus with them cheaters! So sad, Limbus isn't even hard.

Like i said, ive never seen them cheat in limbus. Ive never seen them cheat at all. I saw what chasym posted, and im not defending them; they did what they did. But not around me, because as u said, limbus is easy. I dont suppose they need to up there.

As far as if chasym posts, then he probably has proof. If he doesnt then there ya go. I dont see why you are so upset about this. Are you worried that there is indeed people in your ls that hack? He obviously isnt saying names just to say names. I mean you DO want to know if someone in your ls hacks, right? Or would you just rather not know? Im tryin to do you a favor here =)
 
Sirelrohir said:
As far as if chasym posts, then he probably has proof.
Well, so far he has called out a few people that have then countered what he said and he pretty much reneged his claims. He seems to be accusing based on memory and his memory seems incredibly faulty when he gets called out on it. If he's literally got proof like the OH hacker forum then okay. Otherwise, his word's all but dung at this point.
 
Chasym said:
while i spent as much time on this game as anyone, it was an addiction that took away years of my life and caused problems that i regret. it was a terrble addiction, luckily i never took it that serious tho. I got mpk'd, i didnt cry. i lost some exp, i didnt care, i was always broke, oh well. RmT? didnt care
and of course i hacked every aspect i could, its one of the things i like to do to anything to figure out how it works, game consoles, pc's, other games and programs. i mean i dont need ffxi to do that, but the thing that draws you into hacking ffxi is that its soooo "Taboo" when your a hacker in this game, kinda makes you wanna do it more.
Ive hacked games like halo 2, soft modded (i hate mod chips!) my xbox, ps2, 360 to do things so nuts it made it that much more fun to own.
Its a hobby to me, i like that kinda thing. Im a tech addict and i like to know how things work.
that leads to me being able to do other things, music, videos, my own games etc.
while i loved hacking the game, and had fun playing. I didnt take it as seriously as some of the people who treat it like a second life or something.
like i said which one is it have you hack halo 2 or not
 
Rappa said:
I hope this topic isn't going to become another "is windower a cheat?" debate. This has been discussed into the ground in dozens of topics. We can circlejerk about this for 10 pages or we can just drop it now and everyone can agree to disagree about it. Considering we've seen it so many times before, I'd prefer the latter.

The only reason I mentioned it was because the way Zalbag stated cheating. Only SE decides what is cheating basically and if that's true, then windower is cheating. If windower is cheating, then everyone cheats one way or another and yet we justify it in some way. All I am saying is cheating in a game is nothing to some people. They justify it and don't care. How serious you take cheating is all based upon how seriously you take the game and how much you care, not how much someone else does.

People that hate cheaters are far too bent out of shape over something they can do nothing about and something that will always be there. I can honestly say Chasym is a complete asshole and I wish a moderator would be kind enough to just ban him, it serves him right. But I honestly can't say that doing it would amount to anything. The cheats are still out there, the people who plan on using them will still use them. I can't and won't let myself worry over something I cannot stop and I sure as hell won't start pointing the figure accusing everyone I see of cheatting... People should and probably do know I am against it and those who know me, should they cheat, I guarantee I would be the last to know if they can keep it that way. I don't think anyone here is much different. If you know someone who cheats, they won't let on or tell you if they can help it and they've already justified the use in their mind so they sure as hell won't stop either. Bickering in such a manner does nothing, absolutely nothing. This post went on far longer than it ever should have based upon crap that doesn't even belong in civil conversation. Yes, this is the flameboard, but right now it feels more like a nut house.
 
Crosis said:
Yet the cheating your LS does is fine and dandy eh? Glad you glanced over that.
what cheating according to chasym he stop supplying them months ago. Though you keep tring to change the subject.
 
Sirelrohir said:
As far as if chasym posts, then he probably has proof. If he doesnt then there ya go. I dont see why you are so upset about this. Are you worried that there is indeed people in your ls that hack? He obviously isnt saying names just to say names. I mean you DO want to know if someone in your ls hacks, right? Or would you just rather not know? Im tryin to do you a favor here =)

I'll just be like you and not care, because they don't do it around me so it's all good right? Glad you support them hackers :D
Hellstorm said:
what cheating according to chasym he stop supplying them months ago. Though you keep tring to change the subject.

wtf? How am I changing the subject? The subject of the OP is Chasym calling out people for hacking. These people are in your LS. Just because he stopped supplying them doesn't mean they still don't work and have access to them lol.

I really need to stop replying to mentally challenged people.
 
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Rappa said:
Well, so far he has called out a few people that have then countered what he said and he pretty much reneged his claims. He seems to be accusing based on memory and his memory seems incredibly faulty when he gets called out on it. If he's literally got proof like the OH hacker forum then okay. Otherwise, his word's all but dung at this point.

Hey, i believe him when he said jamal hacked; he had proof at one point. Why would he lie about this guy and not people that he actually dislikes? Why didnt he call out pere or anyone else he doesnt like? You dont wnat to believe that your friend hacks, then live in ignorant bliss. People will make up their own minds.

As for kaizen, like i said, im just tryin to help them out. They claim to hate hackers w/ a vengence. Well, if thats the case, he can say if there is anyone in their ls that hacks; that way they can do their own investigation into it, u know, cuz they dont cheat and what not.
 
hellstorm said:
what cheating according to chasym he stop supplying them months ago. Though you keep tring to change the subject.

lol@this

Using the fact that they were cut off is probably one of the worst strategies for prooving their innocence you could use. It does just totally imply that they were using them after all. I mean, if someone hacked up until 5 minutes ago, when they quit cold turkey, does that mean they're not cheaters? If that were the case, them Chasym isn't a cheater either.
 
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Sirelrohir said:
Like i said, ive never seen them cheat in limbus. Ive never seen them cheat at all. I saw what chasym posted, and im not defending them; they did what they did. But not around me, because as u said, limbus is easy. I dont suppose they need to up there.

As far as if chasym posts, then he probably has proof. If he doesnt then there ya go. I dont see why you are so upset about this. Are you worried that there is indeed people in your ls that hack? He obviously isnt saying names just to say names. I mean you DO want to know if someone in your ls hacks, right? Or would you just rather not know? Im tryin to do you a favor here =)
problem is chasym throwing so much bs out that it be impposible to tell the truth from the lies. Unless he has that black list of isp adresses that downloaded his hacks, or his friends hacks or whatever he said. Yet the only ones he seem to be able to finger is the ones he once called his friends.
 
Sirelrohir said:
As for kaizen, like i said, im just tryin to help them out. They claim to hate hackers w/ a vengence. Well, if thats the case, he can say if there is anyone in their ls that hacks; that way they can do their own investigation into it, u know, cuz they dont cheat and what not.

But your friends do and thats fine by you because you don't see it. Even though there is proof. The proof Chasym had on Jamal is nowhere near as conclusive as seeing posts to forums of your buds cheating and talking about it. But you keep telling yourself they don't.
 
hellstorm said:
problem is chasym throwing so much bs out that it be impposible to tell the truth from the lies. Unless he has that black list of isp adresses that downloaded his hacks, or his friends hacks or whatever he said. Yet the only ones he seem to be able to finger is the ones he once called his friends.

If such a list existed, I don't think it would be easy to validate. Just off the top of my head, I can think of AoL botching something like that pretty feirce. Would you really like a list of IPs? I mean, would that actually help you? Do you even have something to cross check it with? Think this shit out before you say it. If he did post a list, which he says he doesn't have any more, what would you gleam from it that would tell you anything, or confirm anything for that matter?
 
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