I quit. (post of the year)

[Sirelrohir]

problem is chasym throwing so much bs out that it be impposible to tell the truth from the lies. Unless he has that black list of isp adresses that downloaded his hacks, or his friends hacks or whatever he said. Yet the only ones he seem to be able to finger is the ones he once called his friends.

I dont know what made him turn on his friends. I cant speak to that. I dont know how close he is to jamal, faule, and tagrineth. What i am trying to do is to help out the folks at kaizen. They dont condone cheating. Well, if chasym has information that there are hackers in kaizen, wouldnt they want to look into that?

 

[hellstorm]

lol@this

Using the fact that they were cut off is probably one of the worst strategies for prooving their innocence you could use. It does just totally imply that they were using them after all. I mean, if someone hacked up until 5 minutes ago, when they quit cold turkey, does that mean they're not cheaters? If that were the case, them Chasym isn't a cheater either.

who argoing there innocence, they hacked when they was in OH. Everyone know this, can't deny that. You act that that means every thing they do from now on is cheating, it not. Ive never seen any the current member use any hacks at sea or limbus. Your welcome to come watch if you like. Im in andres because I like doing sea and there the only shell that does sea as a main theme.

 

[Crosis]

I dont know what made him turn on his friends. I cant speak to that. I dont know how close he is to jamal, faule, and tagrineth. What i am trying to do is to help out the folks at kaizen. They dont condone cheating. Well, if chasym has information that there are hackers in kaizen, wouldnt they want to look into that?

Though the folks of Antares do condone cheating as long as it isn't in plain view! Limbus is tough!

 

[Sirelrohir]

But your friends do and thats fine by you because you don't see it. Even though there is proof. The proof Chasym had on Jamal is nowhere near as conclusive as seeing posts to forums of your buds cheating and talking about it. But you keep telling yourself they don't.

I dont tell myself they dont; i said i stopped defending them on that point. I did say i havent seen them cheat in an event i do with them. lol, quit making things up.

Well, i still think others in your ls would like to know who cheats, even if you dont. I mean, you guys dont hack, right? Then you should be telling chasym to tell u if anyone in your ls hacks; cuz they dont, so he wont be able to say that they do.

 

[Urywury]

Of Chasym and Ego:
Or, more rightly, of Ego and Chasym. For I am sure the ego is much greater than the man.
I've known Chasym for a long, long time. This being the second of two accounts I've had, I first met Chasym as the Tarutaru Viridian. When I again joined FFXI I met him again as the Hume Benen. When I stopped playing FFXI the second time, I gave my account to an acquaintance of mine, whom some of you knew as Silshade before he sold his account. Some time after giving Sil my account, I got another and became the Tarutaru I play as now. During each of these times, I shared several common friends with Chasym, including Excim, who many of you know. On several occasions, I expressed to Excim, Faule, and even Graydaze my dislike for him, his attitude toward FFXI, and gaming in general.
More than once I've seen him fingered for activities against the FFXI ToS. Each and every time he denied these accusations. Even now, when he has admitted to using hacks, he still only tells half-truths. This is quite normal for him, from what I've seen over the past years. He claims he never used his hacks for personal gain. I've personally seen him spend hours camping monsters to get drops, largely to sell. Granted, most of these times weren't recent, but they certainly happened, and, if Chasym's claims are true, then he was using hacks that entire time, as well.
Chasym, I hope you enjoyed not really doing all the things you claimed to have done in game, because even if you did some things without hacks, the items you had surely came from hack-earned gil, so none of your accomplishments are your own.

As far as Chasym's ousting of others who supposedly hack, I cannot say I'd trust anything coming from a man who isn't even true to himself and his friends. How far can you really trust a person who is already admittedly a liar?


I'd also like to state my opinion on hacking, and cheating in general. As far as hacking in FFXI goes, it's wrong regardless of if you get caught or not. If you can't either find enough friends to help you, or obtain items/gil on your own merits, you shouldn't have it. With the exception of the Elshimo Marble Chasym helped me get, everything I have I owe to good, honest friends, hard work, and love of the game. I think that the folks that say games are designed a way for a reason are right. Not everything is supposed to be easy, or it wouldn't be worth doing.

After all this, I'd still like to say that I wish Chasym, Graydaze, and their children the best in life. Hopefully they'll all realize that there are no shortcuts in the real world.

 

[Sirelrohir]

Though the folks of Antares do condone cheating as long as it isn't in plain view! Limbus is tough!

thats fine, im not in anteres. sorry u find limbus so difficult...

 

[hellstorm]

If such a list existed, I don't think it would be easy to validate. Just off the top of my head, I can think of AoL botching something like that pretty feirce. Would you really like a list of IPs? I mean, would that actually help you? Do you even have something to cross check it with? Think this shit out before you say it. If he did post a list, which he says he doesn't have any more, what would you gleam from it that would tell you anything, or confirm anything for that matter?

im sure some you can do that, you found out shintroy pretty fast.

 

[Bigboy]

who argoing there innocence, they hacked when they was in OH. Everyone know this, can't deny that. You act that that means every thing they do from now on is cheating, it not. Ive never seen any the current member use any hacks at sea or limbus. Your welcome to come watch if you like. Im in andres because I like doing sea and there the only shell that does sea as a main theme.

Hey, if you wanna roll with some cheaters, ex-cheaters or not, thats your call. But I would hesitate myself before acting like they won't or don't do it still if they did before. If anything, I would assume a long time user would only get better at disguising it. Just tread carefully when tossing words around about cheaters when you're in the midst of a minefield full of them.

 

[Crosis]

I dont tell myself they dont; i said i stopped defending them on that point. I did say i havent seen them cheat in an event i do with them. lol, quit making things up.

Well, i still think others in your ls would like to know who cheats, even if you dont. I mean, you guys dont hack, right? Then you should be telling chasym to tell u if anyone in your ls hacks; cuz they dont, so he wont be able to say that they do.

Sure others in my LS would like to know, so would I. Will we take Chasyms word without proof and his word alone for it? Nope. I never said you were defending them, I said you were supporting them by turning a blind eye. So maybe you should update that sig of yours, I think one of them is a big time cheater. I mean if you don't you sure are supporting them!

 

[Bigboy]

im sure some you can do that, you found out shintroy pretty fast.

I found no one. But I would assume you read that thread if you managed to gleam that much from it. His IP was handed out in the first post of the thread by a mod of this forum, who would deffinately have access to logs to gain that info from.

Personally, I was a little perturbed that such info was given out to the public, but I would doubt such a thing will occure again without alot more thought going into it, if ever.

 

[hellstorm]

But your friends do and thats fine by you because you don't see it. Even though there is proof. The proof Chasym had on Jamal is nowhere near as conclusive as seeing posts to forums of your buds cheating and talking about it. But you keep telling yourself they don't.

then again the proof jamal had on Sirelrohir was not either, I believe that the point he trying to get across, but I'd have to agree with the peanut gallery on this one the stuff he has on jamal is not is not credited info. One thing I don't get this was at KB was it not, would there not been over 40 people there yet only 2 or 4 people saw this?

 

[Rappa]

I'd just like to see him change his sig cause it's honking huge. But anyway, so far most of the things Chasym has said went about like this:

Chasym: I saw Soandso hack! I clearly remember it and I have movies and logs!

QCDN: Cool, let's see that movie!

Chasym: I... don't have it anymore. But I know his IP address visited a hack site of mine!

QCDN: Cool, let's see that info!

Chasym: I... don't have it anymore. But I remember one time someone said such and such and...

Person In Question: That was actually about something else.

Chasym: Oh, nvm.

 

[hellstorm]

I dont tell myself they dont; i said i stopped defending them on that point. I did say i havent seen them cheat in an event i do with them. lol, quit making things up.

Well, i still think others in your ls would like to know who cheats, even if you dont. I mean, you guys dont hack, right? Then you should be telling chasym to tell u if anyone in your ls hacks; cuz they dont, so he wont be able to say that they do.

I agree with this aswell

 

[Urywury]

This IS typical behavior from what I've seen, after all.

 

[Sirelrohir]

Sure others in my LS would like to know, so would I. Will we take Chasyms word without proof and his word alone for it? Nope. I never said you were defending them, I said you were supporting them by turning a blind eye. So maybe you should update that sig of yours, I think one of them is a big time cheater. I mean if you don't you sure are supporting them!

Sorry, my friends may have faults, but since my life doesnt revolve around the game, im not gonna abandon them. Friends > ff in my opinion. I like my sig just the way it is. You guys did to me, what your defending for jamal. Its funny to me.

 

[Watchyourstep]

Welp, guess we all know the answer to the million dollar question "

Yo wtf, that shit poped purple"

Fuck man.. FUCK! this shit pisses me off so much, the excitment of claiming an NM when shit was pure died when the pioneering NA LS's 1st entered sky (BoL, NH, OH, Valks, Kaizen) so on and off NA's have been hacking for close to over 2yrs now, worthless server now truely.. the damage has been done, and Quetz is forever tainted..


Maybe I should bust out my Atari and get on some old school Asteroids or Pong, atleast there aint no Game Genie type shit for that.............

 

[hellstorm]

I found no one. But I would assume you read that thread if you managed to gleam that much from it. His IP was handed out in the first post of the thread by a mod of this forum, who would deffinately have access to logs to gain that info from.

Personally, I was a little perturbed that such info was given out to the public, but I would doubt such a thing will occure again without alot more thought going into it, if ever.

not you as you but you as in the qcdn population. I also agree with this It was wrong; but if he did have the ip and posted it. The ls (kazin for example) admins can cross check the personal ls website members then the ls leader can get there "hackers" out of there ls.

 

[Rappa]

not you as you but you as in the qcdn population. I also agree with this It was wrong but if he did have the ip and posted the ls site (kazin for example) admins can cross check the personal ls website members then the ls leader can get there "hackers" out of there ls.

I believe he (being Chasym) said at least 20 pages ago that there is NO IP LIST and that even if he had one he wouldn't post it, or something to that effect. So why it's still being brought up and asked for is beyond comprehension.

 

[Bigboy]

not you as you but you as in the qcdn population. I also agree with this It was wrong but if he did have the ip and posted the ls site (kazin for example) admins can cross check the personal ls website members then the ls leader can get there "hackers" out of there ls.

I suppose thats true, as long as the IP list is remotely current. Reguardless, there would still be nothing YOU could gleam from it. I know I have changed IPs numerous times just from moving and from back when I used AoL to play. Not that it falsely incriminate someone, but it would miss alot of people and be kinda useless. To top that off, Chasym said he matched the majority of the IPs on QCDN over the course of 3 days, which would mean he missed anyone posting from a different ID than they play from and possibly (unlikely, but possibly) might match someone who may be clean, but was using a friend who does hack's computer. It really is a luck of the draw as to what he got durring those 3 days. To mess things up even further, no one who downloaded a hack is guaranteed to have even used it. Like if someone asked me to download stuff for them onto a disk, or was just using my connection for a faster download.

I'm not saying anything like that happened, but that fact that it can deffinately does exist. Even if it means 12 bad guys get away with it, I'd prefer it over 1 innocent being hurt and possibly shunned. Especially over something so piss poor as a list of IPs gained from what I would think of myself as a horribly wrong meathod. He abused the system, a crooked cop maneuver, if you will.

 

[hellstorm]

I believe he (being Chasym) said at least 20 pages ago that there is NO IP LIST and that even if he had one he wouldn't post it, or something to that effect. So why it's still being brought up and asked for is beyond comprehension.

it going towards chasym creditability.

now my favorite part is that most people who download a hack from any site, are well known. because some of those sites were owned by groups of mine, who could look at an IP and compare it to IPs on other servers forums and see who they were, this is why i was only a mod for QCDN for 2 days (betcha didnt know that huh!?) i was cross checking IP's from downloads to IP's of users to see who on our server hacked besides me, youd be surprised at some of the names who thought they were downloading and hacking anonomously, we often discussed these people on OH ventrillo server, so we knew who were were voking against and what they had.
Just remember that next time you download a hack and think no one will know, chances are you are on the radar.
But i wont name names again, its none of my business and im not puttin anyone out in the spotlight. would be fun, but not my taste.

the record would still be there would they not? They don't just disappear? Or if he cant do that give us some those people that post on that ffxihax site? He can't do either, because from page 1 he been lying though his teeth.