I think i know how Keits feels now....

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OniTatsujin

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I give advise when ever I can to people, and most of the time, they accept it, cherish it, and use the new knowledge I have given them...

So I am playing SAM in the dunes(i absolutely love SAM!) and I have a great party going here...This is late at night, so the party had a few japanese, all with subs and stuff..
Party: SMN/WHM, RDM/WHM, MNK/WAR, MNK/WAR, SAM/WAR(me), i look at the search, only a lvl 16THF seeking, so i invite her...so we are fighting fine, and me and one of the MNK/WAR's were skillchaining(His name was Eldo, he is cool) since his english isn't the greatest, he asked me to explain to the THF was a skillchain is, since it would help with the SA she was doing...so I say sure, and i start to explain what and how you skillchain(havent gone into the SAWS yet..) and while i'm explaining, she says.. "Pull..." and i said, "Hold on, this is important information, it would enhance your fighting ability greatly" ...*Iwillnotgiveouthernameforidontthinkishoulddothat runs to a snipper and hits* Blahperson: "HELP!!"

So we had to fight it..no choice, so after i continue on my explanation...*snip spawns, she hits it* I wanted to flip out! i swear! this is information you should know if you want to melee! So when it finally reaches her brain, i asked "Shall we try a skillchain?" she said "ok.." ...well it didn't go right, she used the wrong WS, and the timing was way off, but i accepted it, first time, i'm not going to get mad...well, so i keep asking her for TP, and when we both have 100% TP, i hit my skillchain macro

Jinnai: (Start {Skillchain} in 5!)
Jinnai uses Tachi: Enpi.
Person....does nothing...
Jinnai (Person! We were trying to skillchain....let us try again...)
Person: (Why would it matter, we are still killing the mob)
=O
So after a ruthless time trying to help the new player out, trying to teach her to set a macro to tell the party TP status, and trying to help her learn how to skillchain...no..nothing...it was impossible, she refused to accept my teaching...The two mnks were skillchaining fine, i, the SAM was left to just sit there..and...not..skillchain ; ; I also don't like being mean to anyone! N00b or not! So i didn't want to force her to learn, if you aren't willing to learn something good, then so be it, i just won't party with you. But someday, if i end up in the same party with her again, i will give her a second chance...

I was taking the nice guy way, and i asked my self if The Keits were there...and he might of gone "STFU n00b" or something, but now i know how frustrated Keits gets when people don't accept his wonderful advise...





Rant number 2:

People need to learn to voke! I swear! Me and This NIN were tanking, i tanked while she casted utsusemi and provoked...well she has the mob, and i even checked, and saw

"Provoke ready! <call1>"

And when the mob moved to the mages, she didn't provoke and she had Utsusemi up(i counted the shadows)...she didn't do anything, accept chase the mob, i had to provoke....and i have been one of the only to voke in a party..and i had to pull....

This NIN didn't have any Ranged Weapon AT ALL! and when i had to run to town to get arrows and the whm wanted cure II, she pulled, i come back, i asked if i could pull again, she said no, i will, so i am like Finally! Your doing something!(after awhile, she wouldnt tank too so) Then she said i need to take a break from pulling

Me: >>;;;

So for most parties, i had to pull, i had to tank, and i couldn't renkai much, except when i had people who could do chains well....The NIN was leeching exp. IMO and also she couldn't do skillchains at all, and she was rank 3, so that thread about "Rank filter good for parties?" i say no! because i have proof that rank doesn't matter(except rank 5+ then thats a maybe)..and i had to do a lot for the parties.. DD(i think i was doing really nice dmg...) Tank, and puller...I don't mind it, but when someone else in the party can pull, or tank a lot better than me, then they should do it...but its ok i guess, i have good voking abilities when it comes to partying and i see the mob run toward the mages...(i never let any mage die...or anyone else, unless i die...) but please people, do something for the party, i don't care if its pulling, half tanking, being a DD, but when you cant do, or refuse to do any of those things, it kinda makes you useless, and a exp. sucker, i could easily get someone else who does something


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Sorry......
 
I know how you feel Oni I've had some bad pt's in dunes as well... but I think sooner or later people will ralize that if they dont do something right someone like Keits will set them in place with a nice pt boot or something. But maybe thats wishful thinking.
 
I could sympathise with you, but this is the flameboard so,

STFU n00b!
 
lol last night i attemped to lvl my war in the dunes and got a party within 10 minutes of getting a teleport-holla, i was like sweet. then i look at the party list i'm tank of course (my job unless nin or pld present) the whm was such a freaken n00b saying that since i'm one lvl higher then everyone that i should pull. i was like wtf i'm tank you expect me to pull and tank at the same time??? she was like well ahh yeah whats wrong with that. needless to say this went on for about 10 minutes and then i decided to just commit suicide and homepoint back to jeuno to try and lvl my rdm in crawler's nest. I swear i will not go there to lvl a job unless its with ls members or i know the people from previous parties.
 
O_o.....

If you were the highest level in the PT, then that means you could most reliably con the toughness of the mobs. Granted you were only ONE level higher, but still, an IT to one person could have been only a VT to you. I fail to see how pulling AND tanking is that much of a problem, unless you just felt like you were the only one in the party doing ANYTHING.
 
I love pulling on my ninja, and tanking also, because frankly i dont trust anyone else to pull. After far too numerous disasters with links, bad pulls, MP low pulls, wrong mob aggro pulls... i could go on and on but i do NOT trust the younger generation when it comes to pulling. No sireebob i can pull, tank, deuff, and attack adn if thats what ti takes to keep the pt going alive strong and with great exp, then by all means i do so.
 
Blowy said:
I could sympathise with you, but this is the flameboard so,

STFU n00b!

Post count +1.


I know it can really get on your nervs seeing people take your advice and wipe there asses with it but if they dont want to follow it its there loss. I know I rarley turn down advice unless its something like "Newb: Daroth go get youerself killed and tell us how long it takes to respawn!"
 
I was in a couple of parties in the dunes last night working on getting blm to 17 so that I could use warp. First party...warrior NEVER voked..ALWAYS used Berserk...and basically let the monk tank..lmao OH OH...and she's wearing Leather! lol WHM leaves and party basically falls apart..up goes flag and I finally get another party. I get into this party there is another blm and an Elvan WHM. The whm asks me to back up heal and also nuke...fine I say. Again though...the melee are quite slow to provoke only doing so after the mages have been hit several times...so I find myself waiting to join the fight until it's well underway. All in all though it turned out ok...I made level 17 plus a good amount of xp towards 18.
 
More the reason why I keep a little black book right beside my keyboard now. I note the good, the bad and the ugly in there. Average doesn't get mention. So if I ever turn down an invite from such and such, I can at least say why I just don't want to PT with them ever again. It's mostly serious infractions, like:

- Voluntarely camping over my PT's mages to chase us away from our camp;
- Sexist comments (towards me or others);
- Idiots who don't even want a free clue;
- People who had plenty of time to farm, but show up in a PT in rags
(leveled down is a good reason, waiting for your old armor to sell to buy a new one ISN'T!);
- Double-crossing a trusted fellow player1;
- AFK abuse;
- Plainly sucking ass at an advanced job past L30.
 
Blowy said:
I could sympathise with you, but this is the flameboard so,

STFU n00b!
LOL, im the n00b because i was trying to teach a newb how to skillchain? That the fact that I provoke faster than any other Tank i've played with as SAM(except this PLD and Darkseph are the only ones who actually voke quick) and i'm the n00b because everyone decides its cool to not have a ranged weapon, not carry food, and spam Utsusemi when its not needed just because you think your badass and run around doing nothing(aka that damn NIN) while i do everything, carry food, and actually take my time to farm for money for a ranged weapon?...wow, i wonder what a good player is.....lol
 
OniTatsujin said:
Keits said:
And I also wonder....

I wonder what a joke is...?
I was joking around too...notice the lol, and LOL...and notice the sarcasm...?

Yeah, but nothing in your post could have been said in a sarcastic way.

From Dictionary.com:

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sar·casm ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s舐kzm)
n.
1.) A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2.) A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
3.) The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.
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Your 'sarcastic' post contained none of the above. It just had a few 'lol's.
 
See, the funny part is that Blowy didnt call you a noob. He made a joke based on the location of this forum.

"Id be on your side, but this is a flameforum, so STFU NOOB"

Then you replied in your own defense about not being a noob.

You see where Im going with this?
 
OniTatsujin said:
Yeah, and i replied back with sarcasm, but you went all English Teacher on me.

Thats because your post contained ZERO NONE ZILCH sarcasm.
 
Also from dictionary.com:

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id·i·ot ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-t)
n.
1.) A foolish or stupid person.
2.) A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.
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...ok want me to rephrase it for you? So you can be all happy?

[sarcasm] LOL, so your calling me a n00b because i do what normally good players do? Hehe, thats funny man, I wonder how you play [/sarcasm]




HAPPY NOW?
 
Keits said:
See, the funny part is that Blowy didnt call you a noob. He made a joke based on the location of this forum.

"Id be on your side, but this is a flameforum, so STFU NOOB"

Then you replied in your own defense about not being a noob.

You see where Im going with this?

:lol: ... this is gooooood!!!!
 
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