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Lavi said:The problem isn't her, it's you. There are a dozen or so mods, a majority of them know enough to keep a low profile when they are moderating and assert it in a partial way, but several feel they need to clean things to THEIR liking and assert their authority when they disagree. You disagree, you edit or lock. I called you out in a previous thread as the shitty mod you are and what did you do? You trolled, PC+1 the entire thread and locked it AFTER you said you wouldn't shit on it. I guess your word is that worthless.
Seriously, get over the power trip, do what you're expected to do and nothing more. Don't jump into the thread and suggest you're going to lock it. Leave them be unless they clearly violate the rules, are from a bot or some troll wanting to spam the board. That was the only reason mods were ever given the authority to moderate the flameboard and you should have enough common sense to know that's all you should moderate.
I know Reeve isn't exactly around much nor does he know all the past history, but you do. Take into account that has been the way the board functioned in the past for years without problems and when the problems arose, the solution wasn't gestapo like moderation, it was minor fixes. Stop the editing, stop the locking and leave shit be.
People asked for the OLD flameboard back, not some half wit edited, watered down BS you call flaming.
And for the love of fucking god, remove the damn edit function. Only fucking pussies need an edit funtion on the flameboard.
Alyada said:I was just having some fun with Lanien.
I understand where you're coming from, here, and I know it would certainly be easier on you. I genuinely don't intend to whip up mob mentality against you, but in the end ... grievances against board practices in general are best aired in public ... on the board itself.Eleibfrid said:Though, if you have any constructive criticism for us, don't relay it in a post on a thread in the FB. I ask you PM any of the mods or Reeve for changes you want to see.
As for equality with thread treatment: If you see that one thread has been handled the way another should have been, please report it or send a PM with thread link to someone and it will be taken care of.
Sharpe said:Alyada is a good mod...
Alyada said:That's what I do, Lavi. I haven't locked anything in the FB. The rules were unclear and unfocused before the FB was back. Most of us had no clue what to do in certain situations, we did what we thought was best. I worked hard & fought for the FB being reinstated. Now that there is clarity, I haven't touched a thread yet. I ban 6-7 bots a day & remove their stupid posts. I take a look at every thread inside the flameboard, even though I wouldn't do crap to any of them. I make sure the more popular boards (Lounge, Reality Sinks In) are clear of spam/flames and then I call it a day. Occasionally, I'll pop in my 2 cents on a thread I find interesting. What more do you want?
Winklewil said:1) Going over and over and over the motivations for locking Rufus's thread, and why you felt it was the "right" thing to do ... you still basically admit it was done not out of the breaking of any rule, but because you didn't like it. No guidelines were broken, none that you woudn't have to interpretively stretch to encompass a whole lot more than that thread alone.
2) Bearing that reality in mind, I really want this question to be answered, once and for all: is the highest rule, here, that a moderator will lock anything he/she wants to? Is there restrictions on your power, guidelines that you're supposed to be following ... or is the only true guideline whether or not you personally want something gone?
If so, fine. Just spell it out, in black and white, here:
http://www.qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=34848
Otherwise, don't even maintain the PRETENTION that there are a set of boundaries that have to be crossed before moderator intervention occurs. Don't even prop up the illusion of an easy-to-understand set of rules that, once obeyed, should protect you from forced silence.
Be honest, and call it what it is, so those that are in utter contrast against that sort of philosophy can give the place up for dead, stop causing so much trouble and in-fighting ... and just move on. Anything else is stringing people along, prolonging the mistaken idea that there's going to be any sort of censorless environment (like the Flameboard) around for them.
In short, I really only beg for one thing: consistency. If there's no rule broken, then no matter how distasteful, stupid, or downright rotten you feel a certain thread is ... you've got to let it be free to stand. Hell, if you've noticed something about it that's the primary REASON for you wanting to lock it, but isn't technically a rule, just ADD THE RULE! Don't like flames in which the flamee has absolutely no chance to defend him/herself?
Fine. Insert the new line: "Attacks cannot be lobbed at those incapable of defending themselves." The only thing is, once you add the rule, make it consistent, and enforce it for good.
If you don't want to bother with any of that, just change everything to one rule: "The moderators will just lock anything they feel to be 'inappropriate,' which is a completely subjective decision."
Any of these solutions will work, but they share one thing in common: they've been spelled out clearly. If you're not going to take the third option (absolute moderator power), for consistency's sake, you're going to have to:
A) Add a new rule to apply to Rufus's locked thread to explain the moderator action, and begin enforcing it regularly.
B) At the very least, concede the fact that it was locked as a result of no specific rule being broken.
Winklewil said:1) Going over and over and over the motivations for locking Rufus's thread, and why you felt it was the "right" thing to do ... you still basically admit it was done not out of the breaking of any rule, but because you didn't like it. No guidelines were broken, none that you woudn't have to interpretively stretch to encompass a whole lot more than that thread alone.
2) Bearing that reality in mind, I really want this question to be answered, once and for all: is the highest rule, here, that a moderator will lock anything he/she wants to? Is there restrictions on your power, guidelines that you're supposed to be following ... or is the only true guideline whether or not you personally want something gone?
Eleibfrid said:A. Done
B. It was, and I apologize.
Well, I was actually talking to Eleibfrid, there ... and even then, I wasn't really trying to attack him, but trying to elicit some further explanation for his decision in locking the thread. As for you, I had little but grudging praise.Alyada said:Like I said a couple of pages back, I didn't lock it.
Winklewil said:The best, actually. ^_^
Winklewil said:I have still yet to see a green name address the following issues
Marajade said:No, he came out all guns firing on a flame.
The FB was never ingame related only.