iaredrew trash.

[Orinna]

This is the correct course of action.

PMs regarding this would be considered harassment. He brought it to the flameboard.

I completely agree with you. Yes, random rl flames on the flameboard shouldn't be tolerated.. But if there is a Real life section, and someone would like to flame a someone who posted there, it should be allowed. I'd rather not see people yelling and screaming at each other in Elenne's post, as she was just asking for advice. I think this is definitely the appropriate venue for this conversation to take place.

 

[Dejavu]

maybe the flameboard should be changed to FFXI or QCDN flames.

 

[Bluefrost]

I don't see what characteristic a 12 year old may have that an 18 year old wouldn't.

Just look how much you go through from 12 to 16 alone. If you can't find someone in four years waiting, then there may be something wrong with you.

 

[Zephayra]

There's a difference between helping someone get through their mental illness and dealing with pedophelia. Would you want a known child molester pleading the insanity defense and getting a year at the local luxery mental hospital, or would you prefer them find their way into a body bag through a high-security prison?

I was under the impression that it could be treated,so I guess I am wrong there?

 

[Jimmydaneck]

Another I think I'd like to point out. If iamdrew is really a pedophile, then he should be encouraged to seek professional help and be treated, rather than flamed/threatened/etc. I don't think we should be able to flame someone's mental illness, and as mentioned before, have them seek out the help they need.

OMG!!!! What a liberal "It's not his fault, he wasn't loved by mommy", pansy ass, no accountabilty response to PEDOPHILIA!!!! Even the worst of the worst criminals in jail don't hate that crap. The only therapy pedophiles should get is 1) padded room thrown away key FOREVER, 2) ass raped in jail therapy and 3) death therapy (best option).

 

[Carste]

I was under the impression that it could be treated,so I guess I am wrong there?

I don't really know. Is there a reformed-pedo club out there somewhere? I don't think there is a real desire to treat something like this since it's highly likely that someone with this kind of "desire" has already acted upon it. Once someone acts upon doing this, I doubt there is any treatment to fix the pedo AND save the child from the possibility of a lifetime of mental anguish (I don't consider drugs and therapy as saving a child from something that shouldn't have happened in the first place).

If there is some sort of treatment out there, then iaredrew seek some help before you find a 12 year old that you just can't live without (if it's not too late). You probably don't think so, but you will fuck that kid up for life, and one can only hope that you'll find a special someone (or multiple special someones) in prison that just can't live without you.

 

[Jimmydaneck]

OMG!!!! What a liberal "It's not his fault, he wasn't loved by mommy", pansy ass, no accountabilty response to PEDOPHILIA!!!! Even the worst of the worst criminals in jail don't hate that crap. The only therapy pedophiles should get is 1) padded room thrown away key FOREVER, 2) ass raped in jail therapy and 3) death therapy (best option).

oops! meant "worst of the worst criminals DO hate..." Sorry was all fired up and didn't proofread. There goes my thunder.

 

[jamal]

I don't really know. Is there a reformed-pedo club out there somewhere? I don't think there is a real desire to treat something like this since it's highly likely that someone with this kind of "desire" has already acted upon it. Once someone acts upon doing this, I doubt there is any treatment to fix the pedo AND save the child from the possibility of a lifetime of mental anguish (I don't consider drugs and therapy as saving a child from something that shouldn't have happened in the first place).

If there is some sort of treatment out there, then iaredrew seek some help before you find a 12 year old that you just can't live without (if it's not too late). You probably don't think so, but you will fuck that kid up for life, and one can only hope that you'll find a special someone (or multiple special someones) in prison that just can't live without you.

My sentiments exactly. Why people are worried about him when they should be worried about the children he may touch is beyond me.

 

[Kerowynn]

He should be encouraged to meet the business end of a shotgun.

I don't think I've ever agreed with a comment on qcdn more than I do with this one.

I was under the impression that it could be treated,so I guess I am wrong there?

No, they cannot be rehabilitated. No, no, and no again.

Also, to Iaredrew, whether or not you meant that how you said it, it was a stupid thing to say. I'm not sure how old you are, but if you're over the age of 14 and are even mentioning a 12 year old that's pretty messed up. If you ever acted on anything like that I would wish worse things on you than being hit by a bus...

 

[Miros]

Goddamn, quick flame. I'm not sure how I feel about this and what I'd like to do. It's going to remain locked for now until I get my dinner finished and talk to a few closer personal confidants. On one hands, yes, this I guess would be the place to go to for flames related to this. However, I have been speaking to a few people regarding this site and when they visit it, I don't want this to be the thing they see. I'll accept PMs while I'm cooking to discuss further if need be. I'll let the decision be made when I come back.

Pedophilia is no laughing matter. And I will also be reviewing the thread that sparked this as well.

 

[Audino]

The staff doesn't want to see anymore "get hit by a bus" or "I'll hit you with a bus" arguments. You can point out whatever technicalities you want about it. Bitch about it (again) in S&F if you want to waste your time. Stop trying to see what you can and can't get away with it when the guidelines are clear enough. I question the reading ability of some of you, however. Here's a direct excerpt from the guidelines themselves.

"Any other possible permutations/combinations of making a threat, the action of detailing a personal intent to harm someone's RL physical state or RL property state, will be moderated and dealt with.]"

And here's another that came up. Lemme bold the extra relative part.

Flames back to FFXI
Staff decision here. Flames need to start resorting back to FFXI and FFXI only. Afterall, if you look where its listed, its under "FFXI Discussion." Certain QCDN issues will be allowed, however it is encouraged that you attempt to resolve any issues pertaining QCDN in the Support and Feedback area.

When its clear as day, I really just don't get why people would say such a thing like...

maybe the flameboard should be changed to FFXI or QCDN flames.

Instead of trying to jab at "the man," bitching about the moderation and what you don't agree with and making such a case about damn near everything, why don't you open your eyes and read a bit more? What you just suggested is ALREADY IN PLACE!

Then of course, ultimately it comes down to this...

Final Word:
Global Moderators/Admins - Situations will arise that these rules will not cover.

I really can't see whats not covered that came up in this thread though. The "Minors.." thread in the off-topic area was starting to get out of hand, as I had a feeling it would. Once it got a little heated, PM took his issue with another QCDN user here to the FB instead of completely destroying the thread and personally, I do commend him for that. Since there was some major confusion in this thread, no infractions for any off color comments are going to be given that occurred before this post. Since everyone should know the deal now, if the thread is re-opened then moderation according to the guidelines will indeed take place.

 

[Arctyrael]

How irritating when people say these people deserve to die. What is it about people that inspires this kind of rhetoric?