Ignorance and Arrogance

Kat your totally right. How I see people on here often affects how I view/treat people in game. Kat take yourself for example, I think highly of you on these boards, and when I had Cleofis i'd often wave to you as I walked past, most of the time you were afk in Sandy though, I think. What i'm saying is if I see someone act like an idiot on here I wont be quick to help/party with them in game.
 
The Druw said:
SO liek. I'm holding you to that next time I do something stupid. <_<;
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You go right ahead Mal^^. If you need me, I'll come in a heartbeat. As long as I'm not doin' an LS event (Proph would kill me if I wanted to leave something to raise someone in a totally different zone; unless it was him of course^^).
 
Kat said:
Firstly, in my own personal reason I'm "jumping on the bandwagon" as you so call it, I haven't been home for the past week. Therefore I had very limited computer access. I was able to start reading this the day before yesterday, but did not have time to respond.

Secondly, I have been playing this game for over 2 years personally and have met a lot of online friends over that 2 year period in FFXI. If I need help for something, I know I can depend on them to help me and vice versa, in a heartbeat.

For a small example, people trusting me enough with millions of gil worth of gear. I am so honored they trust me enough to let me borrow it. It's not every person in this game who can say they have friends like that. And I would do the same for them.

I do not believe you can say the same thing. Hell you even have Hali saying he's regretting helping you with your Rank Missions. So please don't even try to speal the bullshit that what you do here at qcdn will not affect your FFXI life. It will, you mark my words.

Lastly, you need to think before you do stuff. On more than one occasion, you've come off as being totally ignorant. I know for a fact, if I saw you dead ingame, I would run on by. I don't say that about anyone pretty much. That's how much you disgust me with your stupid ideals and posts. To add to that, I am one of the people who have been playing this game for over 2 years, and I will still drop what I'm doing if at all possible, and cross country Raise III you.
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I know very well of your reputation, and I still highly respect you. Your character has some things that could be worked on but that is expected.
You forget, while you are a pristine princess of perfection.. some of us lesser people fuck up a lot.. (and no.. I am not being sarcastic)
You say so much of me, but I have never once ignored a dead body, even in a hostile zone, so that to me, says quite a bit about yours, over what.. a dispute you had no part in? I've raised people who the day before insulted me for merely not pling them for gil. Why? Humane.
Yeah, I make mistakes.. called being human. I didn't think in this situation.. that doesn't mean a bloody thing about my character, just perhaps a bad day, any valid reason.
but look.. does anyone care to hear the 2nd side of the story? before I even logged QCDN theres a slew of ignorant bastards jumping in early..
Anyone with the intelligence of a 9 year old knows to hear both sides THEN formulate.
However.. seeing as you have never once spoken to me, never even SEEN me.. you are rather judgemental. Looking as I see from you?
Don't take offense, because I honestly mean none..
you seem like an overzealous obnoxious loudmouth with a temper to match a volcano.
Hmm.. is that you?
I REALLY doubt it.. seeing the other misc posts of you in other areas, you seem like quite a lovely person.. yet were I to do like you did, and judge based off here? Come on now. Attacking my sexuality is as bad as hating someone because they are black/white/asian/whatever.. that's pretty cheap. Again, I hold no hostility.. god forbid you ever died in a zone I was near? I'd offer a Raise. Yes you may say "go to hell you 'carpet munching bitch'" but the offer would be there.. even Rhyan, as much as I find him to be the most ignorant person I have ever met.. this is a game. Nothing more.
This is a Flameboard.. nothing more. I take everything here, grain of salt.
I still find you highly respectable and still wish you the best of luck on everything. If you wish to be judgemental based on a few incursions (only seeing the dark, not the light) you may. Just think how society would be then.
If my city was like this? There'd be no minority... we'd be nothing but caucasian here.. no one would be poor.. why? Well minorities are in the news daily for doing bad things.. yes, whites are too but notice what shows up more? so lets shun them and banish them.. oh.. poor people have a higher chance to steal (according to statistics) so lets banish them too..
Sorry to go a bit overboard.. but admit, you are judging without any knowledge aside what you are fed on a FLAMEboard by angry children.
Just something to think about.~
 
Cleofis said:
Kat your totally right. How I see people on here often affects how I view/treat people in game. Kat take yourself for example, I think highly of you on these boards, and when I had Cleofis i'd often wave to you as I walked past, most of the time you were afk in Sandy though, I think. What i'm saying is if I see someone act like an idiot on here I wont be quick to help/party with them in game.
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Awww, well thankee Cleofis. I must have been afk, cuz I try very hard to wave to everyone when I see them. I'm very sorry I missed those waves^^.
 
How am i ignorant? please post some things that I have said that are ignorant.
 
I presumed you were as it was right outside South Sandy MH. Well Cleofis is dead so if you see Ponikarovsky waving its me :P
 
I'm not even gonna touch on the rest of your post, but the carpet muncher thing? Well that is not derogatory of you bein' gay. Not in the least. It is a fact, by your own admission that you are a 'carpet muncher'. You are a lesbian are you not?

Secondly, my husband and I love Melissa Etheridge. I also <3 Hali dearly. I have many many many gay friends in rl. Granted most of them are male. I have bi- friends in rl. Calling you a carpet muncher is basically the same as calling you a lesbian. I call male homosexuals gay. Mebbe I'm weird and have no clue what I'm talking about, but I feel those words are less hurtful than bein' called lezbo, homo, fag etc.

To reiterate, I am not a rasist of any nationality, race, sexual preference, whatever. I use the words I use because in my mind they are not as hurtful to your sexual preference. And indeed you are a carpet muncher. It just comes off as more derogatory toward you, because thus far, you have proven nothing to me, except your ignorance.
 
Also, I want to add one more thing ... I see you type over and over again how you have bad days. I'm sorry, but you have no clue in your short 17-18 years what a really bad is. It is a totally bullshit excuse, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who is sick of you trying to use it.

Have you had a sister killed in front of her 2 sons by a drunk driver? Have you lost a brother-in-law who was a diabetic to crack cocaine? Have you lost a mother-in-law who had diabetes so bad they had they to amputate not 1 but both her legs, her kidneys failed, she was goin' blind, and finally it was a relief when she passed because you knew she was no longer in pain? A grandmother to cancer? Having female problems since the age of 18? My list could go on and on. Needless to say, I'm sure there are people out there who have had even worse tradegies than myself happen in their lives. The above is called life. Deal with it. IF you are 'having a bad day' then friggin' log off the game and don't bring your misery unto others.

Time and time again, I see you doing hurtful things to people ingame cuz you're having a bad day. Gimme a friggin' break.
 
Shaidalyn said:
you are judging without any knowledge aside what you are fed on a FLAMEboard by angry children
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Actually, you are the one who is doing the feeding, in case you somehow missed that. Sure, there is always a lot of noise on the FB, the reader will usually skip that. Your posts on the other hand substantiate the opinion people have now formed about you.

Sure, there is more to Quetz than QCDN, even if every single of the 3.5K+ users would not want to pt with your anymore, you would probably still get invites. Good for you, really. However, in the end you will be treated as you treat others (whether you believe that or not is irrelevant), and you have sufficiently demonstrated in this thread just how much regard for others you have.
 
Ok i have avoided posting on this for sometime due to the fact that I quite honestly didnt wanna get into a pissing war with an idiot.

Let me break this down for you very simply shaid...

First come first serve.
Bst, parties, Npc'ers - All have equal rights to an area if they can be supported there.
If someone comes in (the 2nd party for example) and makes it so that the xp is slower than usual that 2nd party is the one that should be expected to adjust not the people who were there. Just wait til u hit 75 and wanna get a deco weapon party and go to all the camps and find out that they are all taken so you have to go fight aura's. You knowingly go to a harder camp. why... because your xp will be better in doing so. You could camp right on top of the party that has the good camp but you will kill your own xp in the process. Its this wonderful idea called mutually beneficial. If you come into an area and there are not enough mobs around you should move to another area.

In this case.. you are being a complete asshat. You did not ask the bst to leave (even tho you never should have) you just purposefully decided fuck with his xp. On that note what made you decide that it was your place to improve the situation of the 2 parties by screwing the bst. As far as has been stated no one in either of the parties asked him to leave or for you to help. In fact, the "bandwagon bard" actaully stated that he didnt mind the bst there and actually was saved by the bst once.

Shaid your logic and values are both in question in this thread and sadly i think there is enough evidence here to show that you dont posess either. With what you have shown on this board good luck ever trying to get anything done in the future. Atm i respect you enough to drop something before giving it to you.

I remember once there was a thread in the general discussion section about possible contests and one of those was to vote someone off of qcdn for a month. I posted on that thread saying that it would not be a contest cause pere would take it by default. Guess what... you are some strong competition now. You'd have my vote at least. Do everyone a favor and play wow or something.

How would you like it if someone came while you were xping and killed all your xp mobs for the sole purpose of hurting your xp. Why dont we try it and find out.
 
Poor responses. Very poor.. if you read, (if you can) you will realize 99% of the same thing is said over and over.
"well then, it must be true!"
or people cant formulate their own opinions.
Kat, sorry to hear you've undergone quite the negative experiences. But, you know nothing of mine, nor would I spew them onto this godforsaken forum. Granted, I have some lesser ones than that.. I do have QUITE a number of not so pleasantries of my own.
Take note I've mentioned before.. when I was 17, now 18.. I have a room mate.. meaning I :o don't live at home.. haven't in a long time.
Yeah that's an open door that I'd like to close before I get into it. Fact is, I got enough going on in my life to trouble 5 people. I come to an MMO to not have to worry about BS morons.. and I find only more?
To the repetitious morons who keep saying to leave.. I will -never- leave based on anyone's actions, thoughts, or opinions.
You can attempt to "hassle" me and oh noes, kill my exp mobs.. and you'll end up in GM jail repeatedly.. if you wanna play liberal youre talking to someone who's spent more time with lawyers than at home.. don't bullshit yourselves.

And Kat.. while you have bi/gay/lesbian friends.. the fact you pointedly say it makes it an insult. It's like the "n" word.. yeah SOME people can say it.. but if you were to say it to a random person, I hope you're somewhere safe. Calling someone by their sexual preference or race, is always derogatory. You use it as an insult. Yes, I am.. does it mean I like some slang term tossed in my face every time I read your post?
And notice.. people read prolly what, 2-3 lines? Sad sad reading. I don't know what people take to get so upset over obviously so little.. but whatever.. y'all wanna rant and flame go for it. I've said absolutely everything worth saying, anything else would be "repetitious" and ill needed. If you form a full opinion based on the flameboard alone, everyone in QCDN is an asshole and should be shunned. So, no. As I said, whatever though.. this is pathetic, this flame isn't even a flame as much as people griping. Gripe away then.
 
Shaidalyn said:
People steal NM's/HNM's.
Peopls steal gear.
People buy/sell gil/accounts.
People go out of their way to make this game hell for others.
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None of the bolded here has to do with this flame. You can't pull the wool over my eyes and try to compare it.

Shaidalyn said:
This.. is a bandwagon. no one has any right to speak aside those involved as I see it. your opinions? mean nothing. even Meeze said it in another thread.
"no one cares what's said on QCDN" and he's right.
Will this effect me in ANY negative way in my entire XI life? No.
So hmm.. why am I apologizing? I dont care about the opinions.. nor will this effect me.
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Everyone has a right to speak about what happened, and this along with many other things you've done will affect you in this game greately. You will find getting help for things harder if not near impossible from the event schedualling board. Since most of the larger NA LS in the server are represented in some form on this forum you stand a good chance of not being accepted based on the actions and reactions you show here. No one wants to deal with someone who's shown themselves to be overly confrontational and involved in shady business.

Now you may just try to take the side that you don't care, and you wouldn't want to deal with people unaccepting of who you are anyways, but even that would be a sign that you have been affected. While people can pretend this board wont affect them ingame, its already shown to be usefull in setting up numerous runs:
Missions
CoP
Zilart
AF
NM Rare/Ex Drops
Dynamis

And thats not even counting some of the discounts that can be found on the AH board, and the Linkshells that you have access to via the LS recruitment board.

Pissing off a large chunk of the QCDN community alienates you from taking advantage of all these benefits. Enjoy the game solo, or learn the speak Japanese, because the notion that acting like a jerk wont net you penalties is a crock.
 
Shaidalyn said:
Poor responses. Very poor.. if you read, (if you can) you will realize 99% of the same thing is said over and over.
"well then, it must be true!"
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To quote Marry Tyler Moore:

Mary Tyler Moore said:
40,000 French men can't be wrong.
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Just because everyone calls you a bitch doesn't make them uncreative or bandwagon jumpers. It does, however, make you a bitch.
 
You just don't friggin' get it do you? Mebbe that's why people keep saying the same thing over and over. You just don't get it ...



Shaidalyn said:
Granted, I have some lesser ones than that.. I do have QUITE a number of not so pleasantries of my own.
Take note I've mentioned before.. when I was 17, now 18.. I have a room mate.. meaning I :o don't live at home.. haven't in a long time.
Yeah that's an open door that I'd like to close before I get into it. Fact is, I got enough going on in my life to trouble 5 people. I come to an MMO to not have to worry about BS morons.. and I find only more?
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Again, so what? This is a game for enjoyment, not for you to think you are friggin' holier than thou ingame and push a bst out. It's not your place. Then, again as always, you use your bullshit excuse that you weren't thinking and having a bad day. Whatever Shaid. We ALL have bad days. We play the game to escape and relax.

You call the people on this board BS morons, yet who has been the moron not only with this bst situation, but countless threads on the board since you've first signed in? That would be you, Shai. You are an attention whore.

You say that you won't tell about your rl, yet there are links to different posts where again, you tell about things that if you would've kept them to yourself, you probably wouldn't be disliked as much as you are.


Shaidalyn said:
And Kat.. while you have bi/gay/lesbian friends.. the fact you pointedly say it makes it an insult. It's like the "n" word.. yeah SOME people can say it.. but if you were to say it to a random person, I hope you're somewhere safe. Calling someone by their sexual preference or race, is always derogatory. You use it as an insult. Yes, I am.. does it mean I like some slang term tossed in my face every time I read your post?
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Again, I'm calling bullshit on this. It is derogatory toward you Shaid. I think you are trailor trash, I do not like you or the person you are at this point in time. I see nothing but crap spewl from the words you type. You try to come across as bein' knowledgable whereas in truth you don't know squat.

Lastly, a spade is a spade. A person who is of African race is black or Afro- American. A person who is white is Caucasion or white. A person who is Spanish is Spanish, a person who is Japanese, Chinese, Asian whatever is whatever the generic race is for them. Can't think of it off the top of my head, I'm tired. Anyway, that's like calling every place of employment you apply at rascist. They all want to know your ethnic background.

It's the same thing with a persons sexual preference. There is hetero-sexual, bi-sexual, homosexual. As far as something happening to me for calling a lesbian a carpet muncher. Well I've yet to see someone in rl be offended, let alone try to kick my ass for it in rl. Mebbe you're actually ashamed because of it? Mebbe you're still warring with your sexuality? I have not clue. But, I'll tell ya, most of the people who I know, don't give two shits about what they are called bein' gay. Hell, they call themselves certain words. And that is all they are ... words.

You really have a helluva lot of growing up to do. My suggestion to you is, next time you're 'having a bad day', log off the game. Mebbe you won't do something detrimental and end of on the flameboard once again.
 
Glad I don't have to party with you.

<- 61RDM /SMN/WHM/BLM/WAR if you really wanted me to. Nothing you say can justify the fact that you MPKed a BST, who, unless he can always buy Reraise Earrings/Gorget/Hairpin, 90% of the time, has to HP or take a Raise 1. And get off Kate's back, if she wants to call you a carpet-muncher, she can. If she wanted to call you the N word, she can. Doesn't mean its true, doesn't mean its right, but in the end, she can say whatever she wants.
 
Shaidalyn said:
And Kat.. while you have bi/gay/lesbian friends.. the fact you pointedly say it makes it an insult. It's like the "n" word.. yeah SOME people can say it.. but if you were to say it to a random person, I hope you're somewhere safe. Calling someone by their sexual preference or race, is always derogatory. You use it as an insult. Yes, I am.. does it mean I like some slang term tossed in my face every time I read your post?
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This is such utter BS, I'm bi and I don't care if some refers to me as such, it's me lol no different than staying the beastmaster or the redhead, it's who I am. The only way it could possibly be an insult would be if I were ashamed of being bi or considered it a bad thing to be bi.

You really are stupid.
 
Shad, you keep saying you are going to be in sky by the end of the week. What exactly are you gonna do once you get up there as a lvl 62 rdm? My point is you keep bringing this up, but im not sure you understand exactly what you need to be up there.

As for the bandwagon thing, like i said before. I did not post b/c everyone else did. I posted b/c i saw your original comment where YOU said some inflammitory things towards bst.

I want to ask you a question, how you like it if some high lvl came in and camped on top of your xp pt, just because s/he 'pays for this game'? On top of that, what if you asked them to please leave as they could be skilling up or w/e somewhere else, and they flat out say no and act like a jerk?

As a lesbian, im sure you have been discrimated against, and thats terrible. however, for you to come back and do the discrimating against bst, is even more so. Bsts are the lesbians of final fantasy, they dont need anymore grief =P
 
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