Ima Kill Matchuu

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Who is Neolink and why is he on our forum?

EDIT: Got the fucking sea kraken story wrong, it was another 75RDM 75RNG who also resided in Bigfunn... nvm that part.
 
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I'll address each point of stupidity in this post individually, m'kay?

matchuu said:
Thats funny, i never said anything idiotic, only you kids did.

Um...what? I didn't know there were any kids here. I'm 18, you fuckin' dimwit. Point out what I said that was idiotic. Go ahead. Go and make your quote and your failed explanation. I'm waiting.

matchuu said:
I can call you gimp cause i know what a non gimp sam is, and your not that.

Again...what? I'm gimp? You know how I play? Oh, thats right, you don't. Find some evidence of this, please. I beg of you to find some proof that I'm gimp. Until then, keep your fucking mouth shut so the bullshit stays inside.

matchuu said:
Maybe if you actually got invited to partys in highschool you would know what im talking about, but its clear to me you dont.

Oh, boo-hoo. I didn't go to parties in high school. Lemme go /wrists cuz I have no friends. I don't see how you saying this has any validity whatsoever. Your stupidity has proved boundless.
 
Miruyasha said:
I'll address each point of stupidity in this post individually, m'kay?



Um...what? I didn't know there were any kids here. I'm 18, you fuckin' dimwit. Point out what I said that was idiotic. Go ahead. Go and make your quote and your failed explanation. I'm waiting.



Again...what? I'm gimp? You know how I play? Oh, thats right, you don't. Find some evidence of this, please. I beg of you to find some proof that I'm gimp. Until then, keep your fucking mouth shut so the bullshit stays inside.



Oh, boo-hoo. I didn't go to parties in high school. Lemme go /wrists cuz I have no friends. I don't see how you saying this has any validity whatsoever. Your stupidity has proved boundless.


Let's start off with things you said that were idiotic

1.Can you flame the OP when the OP is flaming someone else for a different reason?

Post#39 in this thread. To begin with, this thread is not a flame, and it should not have been put in here, it should have been in good times or general discussion.

2.I think everyone loves pussies.

Also post#39 You idiotically participated in the derailing of the thread.

3.This thread...it lacks something...what is it...oh yeah, win. And a competant OP who didn't sell his hard drive for drug money and then come back because that drug money is gone.

Again with post #39. Further a different derail of the thread, thus helping cause or further two derails in the same thread.

4.Uh...garvin didn't go on a PUBLIC (see what I did there?) forum and post his life for all to see. He posted his opinion, which is that your a moron. He's not wrong.

Post #89. Furthering the derail of the original topic of this thread.

5.Uh...garvin didn't go on a PUBLIC (see what I did there?) forum and post his life for all to see. He posted his opinion, which is that your a moron. He's not wrong.

Post#89. Attacking some's point of view for not agreeing with someone else's point of view, thus making you hypocritical about the whole situation at hand.

6.Interesting...very interesting...how would you even decide on a winner? Oh, thats right...there's no winner in a fight with only losers. lol

Post#91. Helped further a 3rd derailing of this thread.

7.That sums it up right there. OP is just an idiot. Who comes in a public forum and tells everyone who reads the thread that he robbed a house and sold his FFXI stuff for meth and crack? What idiot does meth and crack period? Oh the questions...

Post#93. Coninueing<sp> to further derail this thread while taking jabs at the OP at the same time.

8.How noble of you, to quit your band to take care of your mother. You should've just left it at that and kept your mouth shut, but because you kept it open you made yourself look like an idiot.

Post#97. Dissing someone for taking care of his mother. Wether or not it was meant to be sarcastic, the meaning of the paragraph proposes that it is so.

9.A gimp sam? I know your not talking to me. I know this because only a complete moron would call a sam who's higher than he is gimp. At least, this is what I hope, I could be (and probably am) wrong.

Post#97. Thinking that just because you have one job higher then someone means you automatically are not gimped in that job. Although you may not truly believe so, you idiotically make it seem so in this post

10.I thought the same thing. I'm still having a hard time believing that someone could be so dumb as to post something that could be used as evidence against them in court. No one could be that stupid...at least I hope not.

Post#99. Participating in yet a fourth derail of the thread.

11.Actually, I think Fayta was lying about half the shit he posted. Now, I'll explain that, since people seem to associate half = all. The robbing and working at wal-mart, bullshit. The doing crack and meth? Most likely true, and thats whats made him so idiotic now.

Post#102. On any given assumption on an internet forum the worst of the things are the least likely to be true, in this case Meth and Crack are the "worst wrongs" that he could commit, yet you think to two realistic things he has stated are completely false.

12.Thats pure win, right there. Now its just a matter of dealing with whatever e-thuggin crap Fayta's gonna end up spewing when he gets on.

Post#105. Participating in derailing even more, even talking about someone who hasn't replied back in a while saying things such as "Gotta deal with what e-thuggin crap fays gonna spew now" when he hasn't spewed anything for last 35 posts, many of which were directed to him, if he hasn't shown up by now then most likely he's not showing up again.

13.Oh, boo-hoo. I didn't go to parties in high school. Lemme go /wrists cuz I have no friends. I don't see how you saying this has any validity whatsoever. Your stupidity has proved boundless.

Post#143. Saying one person has no validity because they are from a different background and a different kind of lifestyle then you, that isn't even rational thinking. Maybe if you even knew of the background he was speaking of you would have known something of what he was speaking, yet you, doing as you usually do, start typing without thinking because you were insulted.

I will be finding you in game to determine wether or not you are gimp.

I have already proven the invalidity of your statement challenging the validity of his statement.
 
wow, i actually bothered to read this thread.

*popcorn* let's see a rep to that ripping from BoF...
 
Actually...gimme a few mins. I gotta mess with a huge quote now...
 
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Blazeoffury said:
1.Can you flame the OP when the OP is flaming someone else for a different reason?

Post#39 in this thread. To begin with, this thread is not a flame, and it should not have been put in here, it should have been in good times or general discussion.

I'm flaming the OP for being an asshat in regards to Garvin posting what was HIS OPINION and getting flamed for it. Did it involve me? No. But did this thread originally involve any of us who posted? Absolutely not. By your logic, none of us, even you, should've posted in this thread.

Blazeoffury said:
2.I think everyone loves pussies.

Also post#39 You idiotically participated in the derailing of the thread.

Oh noez, a FB thread got derailed. Big fuckin deal, the OP made his post and what followed was just the result of him posting it in the FB.

Blazeoffury said:
3.This thread...it lacks something...what is it...oh yeah, win. And a competant OP who didn't sell his hard drive for drug money and then come back because that drug money is gone.

Again with post #39. Further a different derail of the thread, thus helping cause or further two derails in the same thread.

And? Since this is a public forum I'm entitled to post my opinion, just the same as anyone else. If that opinion gets insulted, well, thats where a flaming thread begins.

Blazeoffury said:
4.Uh...garvin didn't go on a PUBLIC (see what I did there?) forum and post his life for all to see. He posted his opinion, which is that your a moron. He's not wrong.

Post #89. Furthering the derail of the original topic of this thread.

Again with the counting of derailings. The original topic was derailed long before I posted.

Blazeoffury said:
5.Uh...garvin didn't go on a PUBLIC (see what I did there?) forum and post his life for all to see. He posted his opinion, which is that your a moron. He's not wrong.

Post#89. Attacking some's point of view for not agreeing with someone else's point of view, thus making you hypocritical about the whole situation at hand.

No, it makes me a poster of my own opinion. Did I say that what I posted was a bona fide fact? No, yet you seem to think that I did. From MY point of view, Garvin was right.


Blazeoffury said:
7.That sums it up right there. OP is just an idiot. Who comes in a public forum and tells everyone who reads the thread that he robbed a house and sold his FFXI stuff for meth and crack? What idiot does meth and crack period? Oh the questions...

Post#93. Coninueing<sp> to further derail this thread while taking jabs at the OP at the same time.

So your gonna tell me that posting the stuff he did was intelligent? That it contributed to the thread? No, didn't think so.

Blazeoffury said:
8.How noble of you, to quit your band to take care of your mother. You should've just left it at that and kept your mouth shut, but because you kept it open you made yourself look like an idiot.

Post#97. Dissing someone for taking care of his mother. Wether or not it was meant to be sarcastic, the meaning of the paragraph proposes that it is so.

You completely missed the meaning of that statement. All he had to say to save face was that he quit for the reasons he did. After getting to the point he was at and having to quit for family is a rough patch to go through in life, and not one that most experience.

Blazeoffury said:
9.A gimp sam? I know your not talking to me. I know this because only a complete moron would call a sam who's higher than he is gimp. At least, this is what I hope, I could be (and probably am) wrong.

Post#97. Thinking that just because you have one job higher then someone means you automatically are not gimped in that job. Although you may not truly believe so, you idiotically make it seem so in this post

Couldn't agree more. Except thats not my reasoning for saying that. He doesn't know how I play SAM, so his statement is null and void. I know I'm gimped gear-wise, mainly because I have to farm. Thats why I'm still at 59.


Blazeoffury said:
11.Actually, I think Fayta was lying about half the shit he posted. Now, I'll explain that, since people seem to associate half = all. The robbing and working at wal-mart, bullshit. The doing crack and meth? Most likely true, and thats whats made him so idiotic now.

Post#102. On any given assumption on an internet forum the worst of the things are the least likely to be true, in this case Meth and Crack are the "worst wrongs" that he could commit, yet you think to two realistic things he has stated are completely false.

So meth and crack are worse then robbery? I said that because no one in their right mind would post something like that which could be used to get the arrested or as evidence in court. Gonna call me on that too? Gonna tell me that I'm wrong?

Blazeoffury said:
13.Oh, boo-hoo. I didn't go to parties in high school. Lemme go /wrists cuz I have no friends. I don't see how you saying this has any validity whatsoever. Your stupidity has proved boundless.

Post#143. Saying one person has no validity because they are from a different background and a different kind of lifestyle then you, that isn't even rational thinking. Maybe if you even knew of the background he was speaking of you would have known something of what he was speaking, yet you, doing as you usually do, start typing without thinking because you were insulted.

It has no validity because he doesn't know who I am irl. The statement didnt have validity, not the person. I'm sorry I didn't go out and start doing pot and drinking in high school. I guess that means I'm a bad person, huh? Doing as I usually do? Wtf, are you stalking me on the forums or something? Matchuu's statement, due to its utter lack of validity, couldn't have been further from an insult to me. He doesn't know me, and neither do you.

Blazeoffury said:
I will be finding you in game to determine wether or not you are gimp.

Oh noez, I better watch out, huh? BoF is commin to get me! Gonna hide in my MH so you cant see me.

I have already proven the invalidity of your statement challenging the validity of his statement.[/QUOTE]

Stop acting like some kind of righteous poster here.
By your logic, since your post doesn't contribute to the OP's intention of the thread, isn't your longwinded post derailing it as well? *coughhypocritecough*
 
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I dont know what else to post on this thread, i think most of just about everything has been dealt with. Everyone get your last strikes in and lets leave it at that.
 
exodusamphi said:
I dont know what else to post on this thread, i think most of just about everything has been dealt with. Everyone get your last strikes in and lets leave it at that.

Last call for flame-ahol.
 
Miruyasha said:
I'm flaming the OP for being an asshat in regards to Garvin posting what was HIS OPINION and getting flamed for it. Did it involve me? No. But did this thread originally involve any of us who posted? Absolutely not. By your logic, none of us, even you, should've posted in this thread.



Oh noez, a FB thread got derailed. Big fuckin deal, the OP made his post and what followed was just the result of him posting it in the FB.



And? Since this is a public forum I'm entitled to post my opinion, just the same as anyone else. If that opinion gets insulted, well, thats where a flaming thread begins.



Again with the counting of derailings. The original topic was derailed long before I posted.



No, it makes me a poster of my own opinion. Did I say that what I posted was a bona fide fact? No, yet you seem to think that I did. From MY point of view, Garvin was right.




So your gonna tell me that posting the stuff he did was intelligent? That it contributed to the thread? No, didn't think so.



You completely missed the meaning of that statement. All he had to say to save face was that he quit for the reasons he did. After getting to the point he was at and having to quit for family is a rough patch to go through in life, and not one that most experience.



Couldn't agree more. Except thats not my reasoning for saying that. He doesn't know how I play SAM, so his statement is null and void. I know I'm gimped gear-wise, mainly because I have to farm. Thats why I'm still at 59.




So meth and crack are worse then robbery? I said that because no one in their right mind would post something like that which could be used to get the arrested or as evidence in court. Gonna call me on that too? Gonna tell me that I'm wrong?



It has no validity because he doesn't know who I am irl. The statement didnt have validity, not the person. I'm sorry I didn't go out and start doing pot and drinking in high school. I guess that means I'm a bad person, huh? Doing as I usually do? Wtf, are you stalking me on the forums or something? Matchuu's statement, due to its utter lack of validity, couldn't have been further from an insult to me. He doesn't know me, and neither do you.



Oh noez, I better watch out, huh? BoF is commin to get me! Gonna hide in my MH so you cant see me.

I have already proven the invalidity of your statement challenging the validity of his statement.

Stop acting like some kind of righteous poster here.
By your logic, since your post doesn't contribute to the OP's intention of the thread, isn't your longwinded post derailing it as well? *coughhypocritecough*[/QUOTE]

Response #1.
I'm flaming the OP for being an asshat in regards to Garvin posting what was HIS OPINION and getting flamed for it. Did it involve me? No. But did this thread originally involve any of us who posted? Absolutely not. By your logic, none of us, even you, should've posted in this thread.

My beginning post was on topic with the thread.

Blazeoffury in Post#10 said:
Only some nigga like you /sigh


on another note

Welcome the fuck back bitch.

To be honest with you, this is my one and only post that is actually on the original topic. I, also, am not the one who asked to be showed the idiotic things I posted inside this thread, that was you my friend. Oh, and Fayta coming back does invlove me, I was his friend when he played, I will be his friend upon his return.

Response #2.
Oh noez, a FB thread got derailed. Big fuckin deal, the OP made his post and what followed was just the result of him posting it in the FB.

I completely agree he was in the wrong posting this in the FB, I already stated that fact in my last post. Techinically, the thread getting derailed, no matter where it is at, is a "Big fuckin(g) deal." It takes away from the original topic of the thread. Not many people actually care about this, and sometimes included in that group is the OP of the thread, either way it still should not happen.

Response #3.
And? Since this is a public forum I'm entitled to post my opinion, just the same as anyone else. If that opinion gets insulted, well, thats where a flaming thread begins.

Sure, go post your opinion, have fun, but in its proper place. If yall want to flame him about his Real life then do so in another thread, not in this one. Although you should be warned even at the current time you have repeatidly broken a Flameboard rule today. I will show you this rule since you apparently don't know or understand it.

Eleibfrid said:
2. Also, use this board for game-related threads only. This board is NOT to be used to flame peoples real lives in any way, shape or form. If you do, the thread will be locked, removed, and you will be temp-banned. If it happens again, permanent-ban.

P.S. You were right, someone disagreeing with your opinion is where a flaming Thread begins, not where you should continue to derail another thread.

Response#4.
Again with the counting of derailings. The original topic was derailed long before I posted.

Yes, of course it was derailed by other. Yes, of course it should only be fair that you join in on derailing<a.k.a. Craping in> someone elses thread. Even then just derailing is not enough, you have to go into and start flaming someone's real life which is on this forum considered an temp-ban worthy offence.

Response#5
No, it makes me a poster of my own opinion. Did I say that what I posted was a bona fide fact? No, yet you seem to think that I did. From MY point of view, Garvin was right.

Yes, you are quite your own poster. You have a mind of your own, use it. You are attacking Faytajr's point of view because it disagrees with Garvin's point of view (which also happens to be your own point of view). You are a hypocrite in this situation because, unless you attack everyone who disagrees with you, or you even fail to attack yourself when you condone others to break your beliefs around you everyday on here.

2.a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

Example: You are belittling Faytajr for taking these drugs and commiting acts of crime, yet you do not attack everyone else on the forums who admit to drug usage.

Response#6.
So your gonna tell me that posting the stuff he did was intelligent? That it contributed to the thread? No, didn't think so.

Did I ever say that anything Fayta said was relevent to the OP of this thread? No, I did not. If anything he was making himself look bad, all the while you are jumping in throwing gas on the fire trying to get him to explode in fury so you can have a good laugh at him for his wrong doing in his Real life, which all goes back to the fact that you are flaming a person's real life which breaks rule#2 of the flameboard.

Response#7.
You completely missed the meaning of that statement. All he had to say to save face was that he quit for the reasons he did. After getting to the point he was at and having to quit for family is a rough patch to go through in life, and not one that most experience.

What meaning did I miss? The fact that you decided to go on and bash him because of the stuff he accomplished in real life, to go on breaking Flameboard Rule #2 over and over again? Besides as you quoted me saying, it only sounded like a sarcastic statement, which made the whole statement sound like he was in the wrong to go take care of his mother.

Response#8.
Couldn't agree more. Except thats not my reasoning for saying that. He doesn't know how I play SAM, so his statement is null and void. I know I'm gimped gear-wise, mainly because I have to farm. Thats why I'm still at 59.

Sure he doesn't know how you play sam, but you don't know how he plays either, to belittle him just because he isn't quite as high of a level as you are is completely biased and very idiotic. I do, however, want to commend you for actually taking the time to farm for your stuff unlike most newer players.

Response#9.
So meth and crack are worse then robbery? I said that because no one in their right mind would post something like that which could be used to get the arrested or as evidence in court. Gonna call me on that too? Gonna tell me that I'm wrong?

Nothing of what you supposedly meant showed up in your post. All your post achieved to do was to call him stupid for maybe taking meth and crack and to call him a liar about robbing and working. You're taking your argument here from another post not even listed among those rubuttled. Sure you posted it, but these two posts are completely different, calling him out on two different things. I completely understand the legitimacy of your post stating that it's stupid to post such things in a public forum.

Response#10.
It has no validity because he doesn't know who I am irl. The statement didnt have validity, not the person. I'm sorry I didn't go out and start doing pot and drinking in high school. I guess that means I'm a bad person, huh? Doing as I usually do? Wtf, are you stalking me on the forums or something? Matchuu's statement, due to its utter lack of validity, couldn't have been further from an insult to me. He doesn't know me, and neither do you.

The statement you rebuttled it with made it valid. You may have been being sarcastic or even lieing in it, but your statement validated his post. He said you haven't been to the parties, you haven't been in the groups who does these things. You rebuttle with "so what if i didnt go to the parties, or have those friends." So what isn't a very good arguement. Simply stating it had no validity instead of validating it your self would have had a much better effect and would not have been included among the idiotic postings in which you asked for.

Response#11.
Oh noez, I better watch out, huh? BoF is commin to get me! Gonna hide in my MH so you cant see me.

Being a gimp takes more then just bad gear. It also has to do with playstyle and with what you do while you seek for a party, with how much pride you put into your character.

Response#12.
Stop acting like some kind of righteous poster here.
By your logic, since your post doesn't contribute to the OP's intention of the thread, isn't your longwinded post derailing it as well? *coughhypocritecough*

I never claimed to be a righteous poster here, or to be righteous at or in anything. You asked for the idiotic things you posted, so I gave you a list.
 
Hey, guess what!!
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Oh snap! & was!
 
I'm not going to mess with another massive quote here, and just address the whole post.

I commend you on being so thorough, almost to the point of being anal, in this. In retrospect, I do have to agree with a large amount of what you said here.

However, that doesn't mean I'm just going to roll over, either.

I don't flame the people that admit to drug use because a large portion of them don't brag/talk about it as openly as Fayta did. Anyone that would willingly do that to their own bodies (taking crack or meth) has issues. Pots horrible for you too, but not nearly to the extent that meth or crack is.

Flaming someones RL is bad, yes. But don't single only me out (even at my own request, since its a rule, all that did it apply) with it, more people than me flamed RL's of posters. Be it true or not, its still a shot at their life. Does that put me in the wrong? Of course, but does it not also put Fayta and Matchuu in the wrong as well?

I'm well aware that my rebutal alone would've validated it, hence my saying his statement had no validity. You say I should've said it lacked validity, and I did.

Again, I'm not considering myself better because my sam his higher than his. I'm well aware of the idiocy regarding this mentality. And your right, I don't know how he plays sam, but I didn't make the gimp accusation.

"unless you attack everyone who disagrees with you, or you even fail to attack yourself when you condone others to break your beliefs around you everyday on here."
I'm not quite sure I understand you here. Its late, so forgive me if my linguistic skills aren't up to snuff at the moment.

I won't address every issue in this post. I will admit that I was in the wrong, among many others, including the OP and Matchuu.
 
Miruyasha said:
I'm not going to mess with another massive quote here, and just address the whole post.

I commend you on being so thorough, almost to the point of being anal, in this. In retrospect, I do have to agree with a large amount of what you said here.

However, that doesn't mean I'm just going to roll over, either.

I don't flame the people that admit to drug use because a large portion of them don't brag/talk about it as openly as Fayta did. Anyone that would willingly do that to their own bodies (taking crack or meth) has issues. Pots horrible for you too, but not nearly to the extent that meth or crack is.

Flaming someones RL is bad, yes. But don't single only me out (even at my own request, since its a rule, all that did it apply) with it, more people than me flamed RL's of posters. Be it true or not, its still a shot at their life. Does that put me in the wrong? Of course, but does it not also put Fayta and Matchuu in the wrong as well?

I'm well aware that my rebutal alone would've validated it, hence my saying his statement had no validity. You say I should've said it lacked validity, and I did.

Again, I'm not considering myself better because my sam his higher than his. I'm well aware of the idiocy regarding this mentality. And your right, I don't know how he plays sam, but I didn't make the gimp accusation.

"unless you attack everyone who disagrees with you, or you even fail to attack yourself when you condone others to break your beliefs around you everyday on here."
I'm not quite sure I understand you here. Its late, so forgive me if my linguistic skills aren't up to snuff at the moment.

I won't address every issue in this post. I will admit that I was in the wrong, among many others, including the OP and Matchuu.

Had they asked for what they had said like you did, they would have been shown what they did wrong. The difference between you and them in this whole thing is you asked, so I decided to give you what you asked for.

As for the statement you don't understand is that even though you attacked just this one person on his drug abuse, it could still be considered hypocritical to treat others who openly admit to abusing any type of drug any better then him. The only difference between him and them is he let it get to far. Maybe when he got hooked on meth he didn't know what he was taking, he could have just been at a party and someone handed him some, and he didn't ask questions, I've seen many meth addicts who have become addicts because of this. After one dosage of meth you can become highly addicted to it, it's almost scary how fast meth takes over your life even though it isn't what you wanted ni the first place.

Besides, why are you only condemning him for his past actions, why aren't you congradulating him on overcoming that addiction, on being strong enough to stay sober from now on for himself and the ones he cares about.

There are many people in this thread who broke that rule, I just stated it out to you, but you are not the first person i showed it to in this thread.
 
Thread not about FFXI, gets this long...Hmmm, I wonder which LS this kid was in before.
 
I find it difficult to conratulate someone who acts out towards others in the way he did. Overcoming addiction is a grand accomplishment, one that should warrant a sense of pride that no mere flame can tarnish. Not so in this case. He let a small comment get to him, one that shouldn't have even mattered.

And I don't treat other drug abusers any better. If they're as open as Fayta was, of course I'll attack them. Most people don't even know what drugs do to your body, just that they feel good. That feeling comes at a price, one which takes its toll on the body and mind. People shouldn't have to go through that, hence why I attack open drug users...ish
 
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miruyasha can you change your sig so its not a lie you dont have an osode and probaly wont get one. let me do this ill lvl sam to 59 and we can pt together then we can settle this arguement the only way it can and believe me i can catch up. god i hated sam too. im done posting gotta lvl sam now....
 
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Miruyasha said:
And I don't treat other drug abusers any better. If they're as open as Fayta was, of course I'll attack them. Most people don't even know what drugs do to your body, just that they feel good. That feeling comes at a price, one which takes its toll on the body and mind. People shouldn't have to go through that, hence why I attack open drug users.

And most people have never seen what happens to people on drugs. Forget the physical stuff, mentally your brain isn't yours anymore. You aren't stealing cause you think it's a good idea, you're stealing because you need that next hit.

Me myself haven't been hooked, but I have friends from childhood who are/were addicted. I've lost many friends to them, and probably going to lose more.

A group of my friends went to get some blunts and one of our friends stayed home at my house. Came back he had blown his brains out.

Hindsight is 20/20 and looking back he left clue after clue. But in the end he felt he couldn't get off the drugs himself and took the "easy" way out.

If you were to ask me how he died, I'd tell you Meth killed him. You'd probably think he ODd or stayed up too long and his heart stopped. But it was my shotgun that did it.
 
Um...no, I'm not gonna change my sig just because you want me to.

The fact that you hate sam tells me alot about how you play it, at least in theory. I love sam, so I put my all into everything I do. Your going to level a job that you hate so you can prove what? Nothing?

btw, if you hated sam, why'd you bother lvling it past 37, even if for use as a sub?
 
If you put your hear into SAM, then you'd never use Osode except for standing around jeuno.
 
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