Is Pyro Serious?

I have no beef with BoL really, I still have/had friends in it, so I wont bad mouth them, and I did try to help them that one day at Serket, but 2 gil seller wars is just nuts.

As far as a Razerratic led LS :lol: if you join his ls, I AM sorry for you.

http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?t=8313&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

There is your heroic leader, the lowest of the lowest dumbshits to ever play this game. Enjoy your LS.
 
um idiot did i say i was in the ls metioned with all the gilsellers? no i didn't. I was in another ls. I am talking about a different case where a rng shadowbinded roc after it moved out the range of the pld and headed for the mages making it unclaimed for a second.
And no my ls didnt only make 1 claim if you actually do know the right ls. We got simmy 2 times during a week would have gotten it 4 times if the thf has a war sub like she was suppossed to and if it hadnt spawn behind the lv 75 bst our first day when we had no idea where it popped at. 2 other days we didnt have the people at the site for it so we only got tod.
2/6 claims is kinda decent for a claim rate when 2 of the times were mistakes that quite literally would never happen again if we ever go back to simmy. So even if we were realative newbie on the hnm scene we still gave you a run for your money and you honestly couldnt call my ls noobs.
You dont have a grand total of one ls that has had bad experiences with BOL>.>. So Watchyourstep please STFU before you get any facts. You merely assumed i was in that other ls and just came out acting like an ass.
 
Oh and i have no problem with BOL in general just the people that have no respect for others and steal claims ect. That newbie ls does sound like a bunch of idiots though. honestly why wouldn't somone camp a 15 mil drop?
 
LOL funny how our rep may seem so damn bad, but yet everyday people that everyone knows, still wanna join for whatever reasons. As yes if you all think Lucifar is a saint, and think he'll change his ways, I encourage you and your HNM LS to give it a go, and try out Adaman, KB, or Fafnir :D , hell i'll even get the ToD for you all, and then you see for yourself. Point being, I dont give 2 shits what peoples opinions are towards BoL, because #1, we doing something productive, #2 we aint going nowhere #3 we earn our keep. And if Lucifar MPKs you all, I wanna see you guys keep your cool, because its already proven fact, GMs wont do shit about it, but spam they're same gay macros over and over again.
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Lucifar only hunts Adamantoise/Aspid. Serise and Cashell have a deal with KB. And Serise is now hunting Fafnir/Nidhogg. Alleluia used to hunt Fafnir/Nidhogg but I dunno what's going on with them... And I don't really get some of this bullshit... why do people flame an entire LS when they have problems with only one or few of its members? And then they claim that they flame the LS cause the people in charge don't do anything? From what I've seen, being a LS leader isn't easy in any way. Setting up events where enough members will show up and get things that they want and to work as a LS. Weeding out every member to make sure that the members within the LS are ones loyal and dedicated to it. Making sure everyone in the LS gets a shot at things like HNM, Gods, etc. I have no problem with BoL and yes.. I've always wondered why they take so many people sometimes to things that are done easily with fewer members and the only reason I really figure is because they want their members to get a chance at all these things and when it comes to a HNM like Simurgh, getting the claim. For that I think they are great. It's not easy to be a HNM LS and get everyone a fair shot at everything. I've seen people leave all the HNM LSs because they felt "useless" or because they were seeing a lot of favoritism and such things. People flame NH, BoL, Ascension, OH, and other LSs for some pretty stupid reasons.. and granted.. I have no love for some of the members in OH... like the leader for one. But there are good people in that LS such as Damita and Uzor and many others I've known. And I don't have love for BoL or Ascension or Valkrys but only cause I don't really know them entirely or all their people. I have no problems with them and the crap I thought about Ascension I learned was a lot of bullshit from Ingwe who is in Ascensions and whose word I take seriously. Valkrys is very successful and I have a good friend in it and know there are lots of good people in it. Sometimes they can be arrogant but so are others that have done so much. Still tend to be pretty helpful and so no big deal. BoL may seem to be kinda foolish to bring so many people to certain things or the "wrong jobs" to certain HNMs but they do get those HNMs or Gods done well enough and though they might not win the first time they still go back up and try again and do pretty well from what I've seen. NotoriusHunters, the LS I'm in.. people think some stupid things about our LS and think all our members are arrogant or assholes or such and true.. we have our share of members that are pretty selfish but there are lots of good people in NH. People have had problems with Maseki but he tend to work things out with those people or they work it out with him. SoraNoHi or whatever, a newer LS, seems to know what they are doing for most things and tend to just go along at their own pace and though they are new they shouldn't be really looked down upon because I know some very good players in that LS such as Uzor and Anttaru and such. I'm not sure which LS seems to be the one being flamed right now because I haven't read over the first page in a few days since I've been lacking an internet connection -_- But if they are a new one then just give them time and I'm sure they'll be doing great in due time if their members are serious and truly wanna play. If they have gilsellers in their LS..whatever... I know I have no love for gilsellers but they really are impressive. They are there when needed.. they have what's needed.. and they work really well together. From what I've seen.. gilsellers, if given the strategy needed to take down the monsters, could prolly take down everything in this game because they really don't seem to have a problem with a single member or other members being greedy for an Abjuration or for a Rare/ex item or for gil and that's prolly due to the fact that they are all working for the same goal... Something I think every LS needs to start realizing.. that people need to start working together and working toward the same goal for the LS... and put down the petty shit like "well I deserve this Abj more because I've been at it longer" and realize that you will get such things in due time and that helping others will only help you in the end. Just kinda sick of this "well that LS sucks" attitude.. and yes.. I don't like OH but not because of all the members but because I've seen people getting screwed from it and seen people being treated poorly in sky by the leader himself. But again.. I still think they have a lot of good talented people and I just wish they'd get some new leadership that wouldn't screw others over and act like an ass. And if he wants to come in here and bitch about how he's not an ass to anyone or such bullshit we could just bring up his nice little chat he had with Maseki and what he did to members that have left his LS or things he's done in sky.. or maybe that he left Serise's LS right after he got an M.Abj: Legs that he wasn't supposed to lot on but did. Now of coarse I don't know if that M.Abj: legs is true but I wouldn't put it passed him at this point. That's all I really have to say.. enough with the hating an entire LS bullshit because of a few members or a misunderstanding..
 
It's funny how you act like Genbu and Seiryu is a big deal. Have you guys even popped Kirin yet?

There you go against blinded by arrogance.

Why don't you stop playing the "My penis is bigger than yours" game and realize you are just mediocre.

I never really had problems with any BoL members in direct, even after kicking me for pointing out that you guys were breaking your own rules, but sometimes you guys can be Power-hungry-egotistical mofos.
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**Why KRONO Was Kick, Takin from the BoL Archives**


Hello!

I am greatly upset by some of the members of BoL today. You guys took it to far, and really made me angry.

I think it's unfair, and it also breaks the rules, that Vasage goes to Simurgh at LV61. Tank or not, it will still against the rules. If you choose to break them for what ever reason, don't expect people to just look the other way. I can do well at Simrugh as well, I'm a LV59BRD, fought Simrugh once or twice, and camped him 4 times in total.

I think it was uncalled for that I was kicked from LS, for stating my opinon and complaining that things are not right. I think people got greedy, and powerhungry, and decided to kick me to avoid accpeting my point.

WYS, I think you are unaware this happened, please post back so we can discuss, if anyone else wants to dicuss, let us keep this a dicussion not flame.


PS: I admit I was a little bit overboard, but you must realize how upset I was. I still feel like I am being ignored and mistreated, and some people are still being unfair.
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**Justification from one of my moderators**

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Krono, speaking as a mod, you were unreasonable and pushed things way out of porportion that day. You posted that we wouldn't accept your point?! That's because your whole arguement of 59 brd @ sim > 61 pld @ sim was just ridiculous.

All that I've seen from you are complaints and negativity, and we don't need that crap in the LS. Rules or no, that arguement was just ridiculous, and you still feel that you're justified just because you were on more than one hunt!?

Before you start bringing the whole favoritism crap in this, Pheona acted given the situation. TN was the only tank at the time, and the reason Pheona picked Vas over you was to give TN a chance in recasting shadows during the fight. Vas would be able to grab hate from TN and take a few hits from sim. This gives TN a chance to recast shadows. Vas was not there to tank, he was there to support TN.

Now going back on your whole "Stick to the rules" issue. If you want, fine, Pheona can stick to the rules. By my understanding, she will only take ppl that are lvl 65+ now, and that still cuts you out.

And if you're gonna go with the whole "Just hunt the HNM for ToD if you don't have what it takes to take down the HNM atm" issue, that is reasonable, but given Pheona's situation, she did have what it took to take sim down when she chose Vas over you. So I see no fault there. If she had taken you, then by that whole philosophy, all of you would be sitting and watching someone else take down sim because you did not have what it took to take down sim.

If you wanna take this to WYS, fine, but given Pheona's situation, I feel WYS will agree that what Pheona did was reasonable, rules or no. It's not about favoritism because there isn't any. It was about taking steps in taking down the HNM with what was available at the time.
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**MY Final Word in this**

To justify and cleify the actions that were taken :

1st off, I appoint certain people Moderators for a reason, because I trust they're judgement in my absence. Now the whole "Favoritism" issue and "Breaking the rules" is def. uncalled for, nor ever true.

Rules stats 65+ to simmy, and 70+ to serket 4 a REASON. Why? Because I wanna give everyone who has EARNED that level, and spent the dedicated times of camping it, a fair chance at making some gil. Now I do hear alot of bickering from you Krono all the time about "I need this gear", or "I need gill", and I will simply say the same thing I said before, Level up. Its not an excuse, having good gear is now a neccessity, its a luxury. I've seen many ppl lvl fast and quick, with shorter playing time that you put in.

Hunting HNM's is a "Privilege", and with Pheona stepping up to run HNM's its in "Her" orders who gets to go or what not. Usually 8-12 for simmy, anything more is not needed, and anything "less" THATS when we dig into possible xtras to help with "Specified" tasks, if its for Healing/tanking/claiming.

Obviously Pheona needed an extra "Tanker" that day to hold/manage hate, therefore she called Vasage in to help take some of the hate off TN. Now I wasnt there, and i've heard everyones sides to it, and its a justified course of action, even beyond this argument of the HNM's, Krono you seem to have caused more headaches than handshakes (I have also talked to you personally about this issue also).


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I think alot of you of guilty of wrong doings, but w.e. As of now I can really care less about BoLSF. I was not going to tell you guys but alot of your own members talk shit about you guys behind your backs, and are about to leave. I am gone for good, for just a word for the road.



I said it before, BoL isnt for everyone, and its not like I havent seen ppl abuse the LS before, and leave on they're way, so if "you" are one of these members, do me the damn favor and drop the pearl. It seems all some people do is "talk" than "do" things, because lets face it, you can want all you want, but you'll never have if you don't give. Begging for help wont get you anywhere. Happy hunting
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As far as us being a mediocre LS, we've ran 9 god pops straight, and went 9/9 we have spent 7+hrs in Den of Rancor and got 12+ LS Members Optical Hats, we've committed much time to camping HNMs, we do promies, get members sky, and have fun. But it doesn't matter to me what you think, because "those" members who I kick, always have something to say :roll:

um idiot did i say i was in the ls metioned with all the gilsellers? no i didn't. I was in another ls. I am talking about a different case where a rng shadowbinded roc after it moved out the range of the pld and headed for the mages making it unclaimed for a second.
And no my ls didnt only make 1 claim if you actually do know the right ls. We got simmy 2 times during a week would have gotten it 4 times if the thf has a war sub like she was suppossed to and if it hadnt spawn behind the lv 75 bst our first day when we had no idea where it popped at. 2 other days we didnt have the people at the site for it so we only got tod.
2/6 claims is kinda decent for a claim rate when 2 of the times were mistakes that quite literally would never happen again if we ever go back to simmy. So even if we were realative newbie on the hnm scene we still gave you a run for your money and you honestly couldnt call my ls noobs.
You dont have a grand total of one ls that has had bad experiences with BOL>.>. So Watchyourstep please STFU before you get any facts. You merely assumed i was in that other ls and just came out acting like an ass.
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Again I have no clue who you are, or what your talking about, or what LS your in lol, nor do I care :wink: you sure act like ur a member of that other LS though hehe
 
Watchyourstep does kick people, as we all see, and i don't disagree with wys' statement about twille. Perfectly valid.

The only thing i see is a seeming double standard, one that says "we kick people who break the rules", and another of protecting the people who knowingly break the rules for whatever reason.

When wys refers to kicking people who break the rules, it seems very obvious it's for repeat offenders. Most of the flames on this topic are about others outside of BoL wanting people in BoL kicked for one offense (not repeat offenses, to the best of my knowledge)

as i said in my first post in this topic, some people in -every- LS can be asses, and seeing as how no LS is perfect, it's kind of inevitable.

One thing i will say, achievements don't exactly make an excuse for people being rude, regardless of the LS
 
As far as I see it, HNMs is just drama period, and there will be millions of opinions thrown around, so the way I see it, I would rather keep someone who does alot for his LS (with his own jusitfication to his actions), than kick him, because people, outside of my LS (who quite frankly dont do shit for me in this game, but give me headaches), than kick him. And im very sure on different levels, other LS-Leaders will agree. Happy hunting
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As a member of BoL we have a few strict rules when it comes to CC'ing against other ls's for hnm's. If we get caught trying to steal a hnm from some that already won claim, we are banned from the ls.
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See my point?

Like I said, I've seen other LS do FAR worse things at HNM camps, so in general the tactics that BoL uses don't bother me in particular.

But when you run around saying that things like that DON'T HAPPEN, and if they do that the PEOPLE INVOLVED GET BANNED, don't be upset when people call you on the fact that those two lines are a complete and utter load of crap. Yeah, sure, it's one guy, it's a personal vendetta, blah blah blah, not LS policy, etc etc. So what? If I had, say, gone and tried to MPK Deniro because he insisted on camping on top of me, you'd have thrown a complete and utter hissy fit regardless of my motives. Oh wait, you already did that! Though please note that I did NOT attempt to MPK Deniro after he insisted on camping on top of one of my LS mates long long ago at Roc. I am, of course, referencing the Maseki incident that garnered a 17 page topic on the Flameboard.

I could put together a laundry list of offenders off the flameboard alone, and I'd wager that not ONE of them had been kicked for the offense that spawned the post.
 
Watchyourstep, can you do us all a favor and let us know what the rules BoL stick to when it comes down to it are? It would be so much better to just have this out of the way for good :P
 
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Watchyourstep, can you do us all a favor and let us know what the rules BoL stick to when it comes down to it are? It would be so much better to just have this out of the way for good :P
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Its honestly no ones business... he can set/change rules to whatever he wishes, or kick whomever he wishes. Its like you get a job, and you sign a paper that your boss can fire you, for whatever reason he wants, as long as its not against the law (your sex, age, religion, those are against the law, and more, but like lets say youre late even once, he can just fire you).
 
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Watchyourstep, can you do us all a favor and let us know what the rules BoL stick to when it comes down to it are? It would be so much better to just have this out of the way for good :P
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Wow, why does everyone care so much how someone chooses to run the internal workings of their LS? Just mind your business, people. I really hope this isn't the nitpicky shit that happens in all end-game LS. :roll:
 
See my point?

Like I said, I've seen other LS do FAR worse things at HNM camps, so in general the tactics that BoL uses don't bother me in particular.

But when you run around saying that things like that DON'T HAPPEN, and if they do that the PEOPLE INVOLVED GET BANNED, don't be upset when people call you on the fact that those two lines are a complete and utter load of crap. Yeah, sure, it's one guy, it's a personal vendetta, blah blah blah, not LS policy, etc etc. So what? If I had, say, gone and tried to MPK Deniro because he insisted on camping on top of me, you'd have thrown a complete and utter hissy fit regardless of my motives. Oh wait, you already did that! Though please note that I did NOT attempt to MPK Deniro after he insisted on camping on top of one of my LS mates long long ago at Roc. I am, of course, referencing the Maseki incident that garnered a 17 page topic on the Flameboard.

I could put together a laundry list of offenders off the flameboard alone, and I'd wager that not ONE of them had been kicked for the offense that spawned the post.
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LOL again, who are you? you seem to care so much about wuts going on in BoL, and how I run things like I give 2 shits. Stealing and MPKing are 2 way different things, and you are welcome to try them both, not like they havent been tried already lol. But its really funny to see how people care soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much about what I do, and how I run things, if you guys wanted my autograph u can just ask. Seeing that ur lvl 61 PLD, you'll just be stuck at Roc for awhile, so until you really go thru camping HNMs, on a monthly rate, expect "EVERY" possible and complete utter bullshit/or truth of someones story to arise, quite frankly I dont gloat around and bitch and complain about nonsense. YOU WILL NOT find 1 topic on this forum website, where I bash or call anyone out, because I could careless about flaming someone. I take it to them personally. Being that your in a Respectable LS, I wont continue to ease your bitch fit, but ima say it to you, what I say to everyone... Take it how you want it, judge me if I care, me and my guys getting shit done, while everyone else can jusst sit back and cry about little things. Happy hunting :roll:
 
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Watchyourstep, can you do us all a favor and let us know what the rules BoL stick to when it comes down to it are? It would be so much better to just have this out of the way for good


Its honestly no ones business... he can set/change rules to whatever he wishes, or kick whomever he wishes. Its like you get a job, and you sign a paper that your boss can fire you, for whatever reason he wants, as long as its not against the law (your sex, age, religion, those are against the law, and more, but like lets say youre late even once, he can just fire you).
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Watchyourstep, can you do us all a favor and let us know what the rules BoL stick to when it comes down to it are? It would be so much better to just have this out of the way for good


Wow, why does everyone care so much how someone chooses to run the internal workings of their LS? Just mind your business, people. I really hope this isn't the nitpicky shit that happens in all end-game LS.
Lol thank you for bringing that up, being that this thread is 1 day old, and over 1200 views, Im quite flattered that im so popular among a bunch of people who mean shit to me, or have no clue who they are, but yet everyone wants to put they're 2cents in lol. Comments from the peanut gallery {No thanks} :wink:
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Reishu wrote:
Watchyourstep, can you do us all a favor and let us know what the rules BoL stick to when it comes down to it are? It would be so much better to just have this out of the way for good


Its honestly no ones business... he can set/change rules to whatever he wishes, or kick whomever he wishes. Its like you get a job, and you sign a paper that your boss can fire you, for whatever reason he wants, as long as its not against the law (your sex, age, religion, those are against the law, and more, but like lets say youre late even once, he can just fire you).
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Reishu wrote:
Watchyourstep, can you do us all a favor and let us know what the rules BoL stick to when it comes down to it are? It would be so much better to just have this out of the way for good


Wow, why does everyone care so much how someone chooses to run the internal workings of their LS? Just mind your business, people. I really hope this isn't the nitpicky shit that happens in all end-game LS.
Lol thank you for bringing that up, being that this thread is 1 day old, and over 1200 views, Im quite flattered that im so popular among a bunch of people who mean shit to me, or have no clue who they are, but yet everyone wants to put they're 2cents in lol. Comments from the peanut gallery {No thanks} :wink:
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It affects all of us, and you can not care all you like, but when it affects people, people care. Now it is our business, whether you like it or not. Just like people in a city, you mind your business, i mind mine, but people will care about things such as being two-faced.

I came to your defense, and asked a civil question. You attacked back. Yes maybe you're defensive about the whole issue, but come on, you have no excuse.

Give us an answer for us all, that's all i ask. What you reply is the kind of behavior i'll expect from all of BoL, since you're speaking for your LS. Choose your words wisely.
 
A party in the dunes grabs aggro from a goblin and they cannot take this mob alone. Someone else is in the area, maybe another party or a higher leveled player.
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Healing ppl whos CCing you, can paint a bad image upon you. Heal = gains hate, you gain enough hate spam JA, invincibale and run away and steal the mob. You may of had the best intentions or w/e... but what that person did by healing CC may make it look like he is Stealing.

That shit happens too many times at Dragons Aery...

Heal + JA + 2hr, bam spike faill
 
Neche said:
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Oh and all that talk about you being a "Grown Linkshell" . . . well sure you have tons more experiance they we do, your more organised and you do alot more HNMs then we do (I assume you do at aleast). But if youve grown so much why dont you move onto higher things such as Gods and the more challenging HNMs like Timate, Gruiver, Adamantoise. Oh I know BoL vs Vitra ^^ You trifle with easy HNM that "our shit" as you called it can take on with only a minor pulling death. It seems all the organisation of a "Grown Linkshell" cant even keep there members alive ^^ Maybe its the whms or the tanks fault, idk, just stating a fact I noticed today.
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Ummm check my sig..
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It's funny how you act like Genbu and Seiryu is a big deal. Have you guys even popped Kirin yet?
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Krono, that's funny. Acting like YOU'VE popped Kirin. Last time I checked you weren't even close to going to gods... :roll:

He wasn't flaunting his sig at the forums. He was telling Jemanie that we have moved onto Gods, and other higher HNM.
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There you go again with the whole "My penis is bigger" shit! No I have no popped Kirin, you're acting like a little kid. The fact is that you yourself havent even faught gods yet, and that I'm just 3 levels behind you now, WITH 2 other LV50+ jobs.


Oh and WYS. Calbrone kicked me, not you. Calbrone kicked me because he was going on a fucking powertrip, and when I told him and everyone that they are wrong for bringing me when I was a LV54BRD to simmy, when I complained I needed money or not, and Vasage a LV61 at the time to Simmy IS wrong, he flipped out, because he knew I was right. Everyone knew I was right. And now look, people are leaving your LS any fucking chance they get.

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Watch, you don't get it. Probably because you're hung up on trumpeting the size of your e-penis, but whatever. The point is simple: Your LS has people in it that do shady things. As such, don't be surprised when people a.) call you on it, and b.) get irritated when you and your LS mates run around telling people how you never do shady things. It ain't true, we all know it ain't true, and you acting holier-than-thou is just sad. What's REALLY irritating is how whenever someone brings up something that a BoL member does, you feel compelled to climb down their throat. Usually saying something like "It can't be true", "It's all your fault anyway", or "It's none of your business".

Like I said, I could care less what BoL does. Right up until the point where BoL members start talking out their asses about how nothing shady ever goes on.

So yeah, if you steal/mpk in BoL you'll get banned.. if nobody likes you, if you're not high enough level to be immediately useful, and so on.

And I love how you felt it necessary to bring my level into it... :roll: I do have a life outside the game, and friends IN the game with whom I've chosen to advance in lockstep. I've had the same White Mage for 51 levels, and we leveled together as other jobs for damn near as many again.
 
One more thing...

Stealing and MPKing are 2 way different things
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Not really. Yes, the XP loss associated with an MPK attempt is irritating. So what? The goal remains the same: Taking the mob.

you are welcome to try them both
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No thanks.
 
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