Jamesy (And other's who wouldn't listen)

It took me this long to achive "I will never exp with garvin."
Christ this should go on the goodtimes pages
 
Solan said:
lol@mentioning DRG :D
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Let me get my two drg mates eli and apu on their drg/sam's on those birds. You'll piss your pants laughing at what godly geared drg can do to those things.
 
Quieren said:
lol I agree, I wanna know what respectable merit party takes a melee rdm over a mnk, sam, or war. RDM Dagger caps at... 220, and sword around 255 I wanna say.... So even with merit theres no way this guy is out doing a merit'd mnk or war.. A merit cannon gear'd nin could smoke a rdm lol... Damn you Lec for being right err narrow minded..
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RDM's dagger and sword skill is the same. Both cap at 250.

Bajaratt said:
That's so they can solo. I have higher base skill with club on whm than rdm has with sword or dagger, but I'd be an idiot to take off my healing staff for a club and whack away at the mob. Saying that they should be able to melee just because they have skill with a weapon is possibly the dumbest argument for letting jobs who shouldn't be meleeing engage. Yeah, you CAN do it, but it's selfish to do so, since you're going to be holding the party back solely for your own amusement. The reason why the things you're calling "bandwagon" are that way is because they're they best option. You're acting like no one has ever tried going rdm/nin in a party before and it's such a revelation that they can actually hurt a monster; it's been done, it's been proven to death to NOT be beneficial, please stop advocating it.

It's only going to be a successful party if you define it as "few to no deaths," but if you're going for the most exp/hour possible, it's not successful at all.
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Well, technically, you could get a Templar's Mace instead of Healing Staff and whack away at the mob :p But yes, it'd still be stupid to melee.

Personally, the only time I'd melee as a mage is soloing, or in some places in Salvage. All other places is a big no-no in my book. While yes, they can, they shouldn't.

Antor said:
I don't need to open my focus. If the Red Mage in question was not meleeing he would have done his job better. In turn that equates to increased experience points and a much more efficient party. There's no other way around it.

Like was previously said; this shit has been debated to death and has been proven wrong on countless occasions. There is no magical meleeing Red Mage that does his job to his maximum potential because he shouldn't be meleeing to begin with.
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I won't start an argument about it again, but this is wrong... a RDM could do his job to 100% while still meleeing. Auto-attacking doesn't make it impossible to refresh, enfeeble, haste, heal etc. Additionally, you can't pull the "But then you can't /heal!" card, because a RDM does not have time to /heal for over 20 sec at a time, unless he's neglecting part of his job.

that being said, no, I don't agree with meleeing RDMes. It is, however, fully possible to do.

romperstomper said:
I will never invite you to a party. You will be just adding TP to the mob and causing me to be taking more damage using more MP than needed.
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Once again people prove their lack of knowledge of how TP works =/

And charlo, I highly doubt you can outdamage atleast a decent melee. Additionally, since the melees are tanking most of the time, the damage they take (or shadows that eat their attacks) reduces the hate they have. Since you never take hate normally, and cast spells such as buffs and cures, quite naturally you will take hate occasionally. If you're a WHM in a HNM fight or something, you pulling hate doesn't mean you've dealt more damage then others. Just because you happen to have more hate at the time doesn't mean you're doing more damage then the others. Hell, I pull hate on my COR all the time, doesn't mean I outdamage all other melees.

charlo said:
quieren hang on a min you are saying you would out dd me without food (because youd be tanking on colibri) and me eatting food. Your acc would suck unless you swapped out haste for acc reducing your att even more.
Hey maybe you would just about beat me as i would be casting but it wouldn't be by much.
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Um, no. NIN have A- Katana skill, while RDM have B skill. That's a difference of 19 base skill. A NIN also have access to better meleeing gear. A NIN have a skill advantage, and a serious haste advantage, and also access to better melee gear. Assuming you both used identical gear (which I can assure you, you won't). But let's, for the same of argument, say you do, you would have slightly higher accuracy then him with food, yes. however, he would attack faster and harder, which puts damage in his favour. Stack it with better melee gear, then he would outdamage you by quite a lot. Most NIN's accuracy without food is around 90%. Hence why they use attack food. A MNK with A+ skill in weapons need even less accuracy gear then a NIN, and can focus even more on attack gear, hence putting them at a great advantage over you.

charlo said:
Hang on a min guys When the ???k did i say i could out dot EVERY person in the game with my rdm/nin lol. I'm saying i could out dot most if not merited or well geared.
Man you like making up arguements
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Which only further proves our point. You could out DD them if they are not well geared or well merited. I'm sure if I geared my WHM for meleeing I could outdamage a badly geared melee with no merits at all. That's not exactly something to be proud of.

The reason I hate meriting is because the majority of the melees LFG plain out sucks. All of the good players make parties with friends to avoid these morons.
 
we're making a list now?

oh hell sign me up
 
Areya said:
we're making a list now?

oh hell sign me up
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I started that list by saying I would never invite him. You're all fucking band wagoners! RDM/NIN FTW! lol
 
charlo said:
I'm saying i could out dot most if not merited or well geared.
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So, by "not well geared" (yes I know not word for word, but the intent), I'm guessing you mean "main-handing AF1 and sub-weapon of moogle rod"
 
uzor your right but you forget that nins dont have access to multi attack weapon on katana and a pierce damage bounus. Hmmm its something i would like someone to parse. As for acc, well birds are very evasive so the extra attack round of joytoy and extra acc from sushi and enspells might make it closer than you think.
 
charlo said:
Horray the english teacher, stuck up asshole.
Where the hell have your bullying posts been ive been waiting bud.
Hang on i'm posting.... you hate me right.

The rest of you can start thanking me for provoking this lovable rouges unformative remarks.
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youre off to a pretty horrible start and i would be remiss if i didnt say it would be in your best interest to vacate this forum

tldr get the fuck out
 
This is all I have to say about Uzor's post: fucking lol. Do you even play the same game as the rest of us?
 
charlo said:
uzor your right but you forget that nins dont have access to multi attack weapon on katana
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NIN/WAR get double attack from WAR sub along with berserk and warcry. What does nin sub give you besides a slower dual weild than a nin?
 
Quieren said:
Let me get my two drg mates eli and apu on their drg/sam's on those birds. You'll piss your pants laughing at what godly geared drg can do to those things.
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i havn't been on for 6months, but last time i had been on Eli and Apu still had the most godly drg gear i had seen on this server

i just lold coz noone ever mentions us drgs :P
 
vacate the forum?
For having an opinion and standing up for myself.
Why?
Is he you god or is this place THAT clicky.
 
/nin gives me access to a good ws while still keeping the joytoy. + more speed from suppa. anything else?
 
charlo said:
vacate the forum?
For having an opinion and standing up for myself.
Why?
Is he you god or is this place THAT clicky.
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You aren't expressing an opinion, you're expressing facts that are contradictory to well established ones, and proclaiming them as truth, then using that as justification to do what you want to do. That's not an opinion, chief.
 
charlo said:
vacate the forum?
For having an opinion and standing up for myself.
Why?
Is he you god or is this place THAT clicky.
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Both.

Uzor: I do know how mob TP works. They get TP when they hit, and when they get hit. As I take the damage I know that his attacks are feeding the mob TP.

Also Charlo... swords and daggers are piercing. Your sword skill sucks because it isn't a BLU or PLD sword skill. Colibri are easy as fuck to hit even as Paladin with our piss poor natural accuracy rating. They aren't evasive at all.

I don't know about Katanas being piercing, but I highly doubt that.
 
charlo said:
vacate the forum?
For having an opinion and standing up for myself.
Why?
Is he you god or is this place THAT clicky.
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Apparently you haven't been to qcdn for that long...welcome to the forum. Where your opinion doesen't matter no matter what evidence you may have. That's qcdn way, and I might add if you don't like it here.....it has been said before that one can leave of their own free will . Imagine that huh?
 
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