Jamesy (And other's who wouldn't listen)

Why are we still arguing that this retard can out-DD a normal melee?
 
I have never harassed RL. where?
I asked the question because i really did not know, if it was taken as harassment well then im sorry.
 
charlo said:
thankyou for the name drop ruffy. you really have these idiots that like to argue going.
That party as do 85% of the party i melee in rocked, yes.
The reason i meleed is because
A. i was the leader and chose jobs that were online seeking that made it able for me to melee
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lol

charlo said:
B. We were fighting colibri

Dont get me wrong guys i KNOW i can get better exp/h in a setup of 4xwar brd and me or blu x 4 me and brd , ect
But for gods sake its not always pos to get partys like that because the jobs that are seeking doesn't make it pos.
So i do what i can with whats online. I admit that if i cant get a fast exp/h party ill get one that i can melee in on clolibri WHILE keeping up with all hastes and refreshs and split healing. Dam a good pld in nysle isl can near enough mainheal himself with autorefresh sanction and refresh so im doing more good meleeing and doijng 50 a hit with 15-18 enspells and 500 ws than standing back like a waste of party space.
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lol

charlo said:
And let me tell u, i out parse any DDs DOT without a good high ws that are half stepping and are not up to scratch gear wise. Its the speed of melee with blau/joy thats the killer so by the time a drk has swung twice with a scythe ive gone 3 rounds of 2-3 hits + enspells. AND im wsing about the same time. Faster if i did not have to cast spells.
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LOL

charlo said:
As for lol nuking over melee on colibri, we will leave that to your commen sense shall we.
My dagger is @ 266 sword is @ 266 sushi puts me over 90% acc i have 10% haste + suppa with 15% from haste. i also have p bady and full crit merits and a gear swap for evescration.
This is not a lets let rdm melee debate, its a meripo rdm melee on colibi statement. IT IS BETTER if you cant get a better party with whats on at the time.
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lol

lol p bady!

charlo said:
Hope i see anyone on forum that wants to party with me and hope to see you soon ruffy because 4 x blu rdm and blu on a free camp on colibris is THE best exp ive ever gotten. and guess what... I meleed in that one too. lol
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lololol
 
charlo said:
lmao romper im using joytoy main hand unless /nin where i can put it sub anyone who doesnt use joytoy in a rdm melee setup is an idiot. Thats the reason it gives escrevation.
Also you said earlier you had a hard time hitting and only got tp while blocking and being hit... now your saying pld can hit fine because of there high sword skill. Make up your mind dude
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It's a known fact Paladin has piss poor accuracy on damn near anything. I hit fine on colibri, but that's because I have more skill thus I have more accuracy then you do. The colibri aren't evasive at all. Take any other mob, and I will still hit better than you. The only difference is you have more acc gear so it will be a close race.

Evisceration is a dagger WS also. You only get one off hand hit from Joytoy when WS because of duel wield. Joytoy gives Savage Blade because it's a sword.
 
Garvin said:
Dual Wield 5+...
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Yarg you caught my brain fart. I don't know why I said Blade: Jin. My mind is oozing out brain goo from this guy. I meant to say duel wield is enough alone. I ninjar'd my post.
 
Anyone wanna come parse ill be happy to accept. As i have said if the party is right ie. healer, tank and any dds. we will parse then post results and end this. Bare in mind i do not expect to out dd all but want to show the results can be supprising to all that want to know.
 
charlo said:
uzor your right but you forget that nins dont have access to multi attack weapon on katana and a pierce damage bounus. Hmmm its something i would like someone to parse. As for acc, well birds are very evasive so the extra attack round of joytoy and extra acc from sushi might make it closer than you think.
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With the simple calculations I just made, assuming no double attack and always have latent active:
Code: 
Quieren

402 = 6,7
281,4 = 4,7

damage: 63 = 13,43 DPS

Charlo

402 = 6,7
341,7 = 5,7

damage: 68 = 11,92
This is with no haste gear or dual wield gear. Basically, naked with only weapons, and no double attacks. Assumign you use Joyeuse/Blau Dolch and Quieren uses U/U.

Now, if we go more in-depth, you say you have suppa and 10% haste. Quieren have suppa and 20% haste. That puts us at:

Code: 
Quieren

402 = 6,7
281,4 = 4,7
261,3 = 4,36
209,04 = 3,48

damage: 63 = 13,43 DPS
damage: 63 = 18,1


Charlo

402 = 6,7
341,7 = 5,7

321,6 = 5,36
289,44 = 4,82


damage: 68 = 11,92
damage: 68 = 14,1
This is assuming no double attacks and no food.

Joyeuse and Blau Dolch will get a slight bonus damage bonus, increasing your per-hit by 25%. Additionally, you will deal 30 extra damage per attack round. While this is all good in theory, it doesn't hold up in the long run, since you're not fighting things that would give the best exp potential, and you're assuming melees don't use attack food. The gap is further widened when you realize that you attack more then 1 sec slower then him, have lower base damage due to him having higher attack, and that his WS's are naturally stronger then yours. While yes, you could parse close to him if he NEVER used any WS's at all, that's a rather redicilous condition.

edit: it is also assuming he don't use any abilities such as warcry and berserk, and that Double Attack never procc's
 
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charlo said:
Anyone wanna come parse ill be happy to accept. As i have said if the party is right ie. healer, tank and any dds. we will parse then post results and end this. Bare in mind i do not expect to out dd all but want to show the results can be supprising to all that want to know.
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I would gladly tank if my laptop wasn't fucking up today. Luckily Quieren has a tank that will still parse better than you. I am sure Baja will take his SAM or MNK, and out parse you. The same goes for Antor. Hell I am sure Myrrh can out parse you on his WHM or his SMN.
 
HAY SURE I'LL COME PARSE ON MY RNG kthxbai
 
Areya said:
HAY SURE I'LL COME PARSE ON MY RNG kthxbai
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Scratch Antor then. We have another piercer that can get the 25% damage boost.

Edit: What I meant by swords being piercing is technically a rapier like sword (like joytoy and small sword) should be piercing swords because simply that is what rapiers are best for is piercings attacks.
 
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ok can you guys make tomorrow about 6pm GMT time. Thad be great baja as whm quieren as nin and anyothers as i know you are all well geared i dont expect to win but just see how close i can make it.

baja come as monk then idm just need a healer thats all
 
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charlo said:
ok can you guys make tomorrow about 6pm GMT time. Thad be great baja as whm quieren as nin and anyothers as i know you are all well geared i dont expect to win but just see how close i can make it.
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LMFAO Charlo is afraid of Baj's monk.
 
romperstomper said:
Scratch Antor then. We have another piercer that can get the 25% damage boost.

Edit: What I meant by swords being piercing is technically a rapier like sword (like joytoy and small sword) should be piercing swords because simply that is what rapiers are best for is piercings attacks.
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I don't have time to come anyway. D: Got class in 15 mins.
 
lol actually my gear isn't all that fantastic...

I have sea, but not sky yet, so I have an osode, however I don't have seiryu's kote/crimson or seiryu's feet

full af2 has to count for something though
 
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Kage said:
Nub, only daggers, polearm, and Ranged Attack are piercing. Swords are slashing.
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Rapier and Epee-type swords are Piercing, with a few exceptions.

And Quieren, NIN and RDM have access to the same Dagger WS's. And if you sub RNG, you'd still have access to Slug Shot, assuming you have Archery at that level. Same deal with RDM subbing something with Vorpal Sword. A RDM75/BLU37 would still get Vorpal Sword, even though BLU37 naturally don't.
 
Areya said:
lol actually my gear isn't all that fantastic...

I have sea, but not sky yet, so I have an osode, however I don't have seiryu's kote/crimson or seiryu's feet

full af2 has to count for something though
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Gah, I just got sky a couple of days ago. If I knew you needed it I would have contacted you.
 
ownd.
 
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