JP Players (Serious flame)

[Audino]

This thread is fucking hilarious in so many ways.

Whenever I see something like this it makes me thankful for the people that I'm able to surround myself with.

 

[K. Ishitar]

So playing like shit is a 5 second delay? 5 seconds delay is like 2 attack with a scythe, not a huge deal when it happens one every 4 or 5 fights.

Yes, I am targeting all JP players because communication is key in an MMORPG, if you don't have it, people get screwed over. I said numerous times I'm not away nor was I going to be. Yet he still kicks me? I mean, if I'm away, I'm obviously not supposed to be typing or moving my character around. That's just crazy...seriously.

I don't see how I get the right to be given all the blame. I used the auto translator device to communicate saying {/no} {/away}...what else can I say? They ever pulled before that an I was there the ENTIRE fight. Did my "attack" macro...

/attack <bt>
/wait 1
/ma "Bio" <t>
/wait 10
/ma "Stun" <t>

~

I was not away once since he said that to me...so why do you all say all this is my fault? I fixed the problem he had with me, yet I still get kicked. Fuck that.

First what I bolded was a stupid statement, communication can occur regardless of language barrier if you attempt to use the tools you have. A lack of communication can happen with people that speak the same language and can potentially result in unfavorable outcomes(read:kinda like your previous flame?).

Putting the problem at the fault of them being Japanese and only speaking Japanese as you only speak English is incredibly arrogant and nationalistic. If you think there are people that speak the same language and all of them get along, you've obviously not partied with players like Vsague and such lol.

I'm not quite sure you put up with all of that stuff you could have simply left. Seemed like it was going downhill with the 10 minute wait and intercessions of threatening to boot you seemed condescending(read: your cue to get the fuck out).

Seriously, take a breather and cut your account off for awhile and get some fresh air; when you come back you'll feel much better and more at ease. No one should play this game on end without breaks and from what I see it has a big hold on you.

 

[motley]

This thread is fucking hilarious in so many ways.

Whenever I see something like this it makes me thankful for the people that I'm able to surround myself with.

I don't know about that I seem to remember you with some pretty shady characters back in august.

I hear theres more coming in march.....

 

[Romper]

Helius the RL emo drk.

 

[motley]

actually helius, I shouldn't be so hard on you, I just got my 10th Epeen dot, and I realized that if it wasn't for you, I'd have like 3 or 4

 

[Genkaku]

I really wish I didnt blow all my rateup's this morning.

 

[bootz]

Theres no reason to be missing the first two attack rounds of a fight if your paying attention.... If your not pulling then why can't you engage (this can be done at 30 paces) cast bio (can be done at 21) and be done with it before the mob gets in range (5 or less)

Also, why do you automatically cast stun? stun is an extremely handy tool and could be useful to not have to wait 45 seconds to come back up. Theres no way that your tank needs a stun in the first 5 seconds of a fight. What if you have a ninja tank and he gets double attacked or hit with a multi-hit WS??? your stun could save his life, or at the very least save some MP that is needed to cure him now. There is absolutely no reason to have stun in your engage macro....

I know its just a game, and maybe they over-reacted, but here we go again, you're making another flame with snap judgements about an entire ethnicity this time, and giving everyone plenty of ammunition to tear you down... You know why the "Fucking JP" were acting like you suck, because you probably did.... as you've demonstrated in almost every flame/thread you've made in in last 6 months at least. Take out your pen and pad, because your about to get schooled again.

I don't know what other advice to give you at this moment, I'm sitting here scratching my brain, trying to make sure that i'm being impartial and giving you an honest opinion. And I think I am, but man this is getting ridiculous... If I had to force it I would say, Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house"

Maybe you could just pretend it was one of those parties where they should've kicked you and didn't.

Oh snap!

 

[Veresko]

Who the shit has an attack macro?

People who aren't paying attention when exping, that's who. Can just hit the macro without looking, I guess.

I remember partying with Helius in the Dunes (yes, was a while ago). I remember cause I was leader of a LS party that included Neyla and a few others, who repeatedly asked me in LS chat to kick you. You were always AFK, taking 10-20 seconds to attack a mob after a pull and then going afk during the fight. Here's a hint: if the mob moves during a fight (which happens a lot in the Dunes) and you just stand there, people know you are afk. Not only that but whenever someone had to go AFK, you'd all of a sudden start cussing at us for not pulling, unaware that someone was afk since you were yourself.

I'd bet this is what happened in this party of yours with the 3 JP players. This isn't the Dunes anymore so if you still take 10-20 sec to engage AND go afk soon as you do engage, people ARE going to kick you. One would have thought you would have understood by now.

Stop blaming everyone for you half-assing your way to Dynamis.

 

[Nyett]

I fixed my problem and still get yelled at. For the 3 time, that's why I'm still bitchin

Maybe you didn't fix the problem. Perhaps you should calm down, stop blaming another race (lol), and think about your play style.

 

[Nycon]

People who aren't paying attention when exping, that's who. Can just hit the macro without looking, I guess.

I remember partying with Helius in the Dunes (yes, was a while ago). I remember cause I was leader of a LS party that included Neyla and a few others, who repeatedly asked me in LS chat to kick you. You were always AFK, taking 10-20 seconds to attack a mob after a pull and then going afk during the fight. Here's a hint: if the mob moves during a fight (which happens a lot in the Dunes) and you just stand there, people know you are afk. Not only that but whenever someone had to go AFK, you'd all of a sudden start cussing at us for not pulling, unaware that someone was afk since you were yourself.

I'd bet this is what happened in this party of yours with the 3 JP players. This isn't the Dunes anymore so if you still take 10-20 sec to engage AND go afk soon as you do engage, people ARE going to kick you. One would have thought you would have understood by now.

Stop blaming everyone for you half-assing your way to Dynamis.

I have given out too much repz today

 

[Audino]

I don't know about that I seem to remember you with some pretty shady characters back in august.

I hear theres more coming in march.....

Who? Me? What? That had to have been someone else.

I forgot to point out another thing I love about this thread. It says (Serious flame) in the title, lol. Oh man. I need to pee.

<obligatory "elitist" comment to please certain people> I would have kicked you too if you took that long to attack. If you're xp'ing/meriting and you have something better to do, don't waste a spot that someone would actually put effort into and not macro half their performance during the fight. I also don't care if thats what you're bitching about or not. Its no longer what the thread is about.

 

[Eilistrae]

Yes, I read those screenshots. I seem to recall seeing a lot of "fucking prick" "fucking JP" and "idiot" in there. Maybe if you'd shut your mouth and did your job instead of whining about how noone understands you and /wristing then things would have been different.

Also, wtf at having a stun in your attack macro? So now in addition to apparently blowing souleater guillotines at the start of a fight before tanks establish hate, you're also generating hate by pissing away stun when it's not needed? Dude, I'd kick your ass for that anyway, and I'm not JP.

yeah, I gave him a rate down as soon as I saw what he had in his attack macro. Seriously, using stun when it is not needed is just retarded.

 

[Kerowynn]

Yeah I'm not even touching that macro...it flames itself.

People who aren't paying attention when exping, that's who. Can just hit the macro without looking, I guess.

I remember partying with Helius in the Dunes (yes, was a while ago). I remember cause I was leader of a LS party that included Neyla and a few others, who repeatedly asked me in LS chat to kick you. You were always AFK, taking 10-20 seconds to attack a mob after a pull and then going afk during the fight. Here's a hint: if the mob moves during a fight (which happens a lot in the Dunes) and you just stand there, people know you are afk. Not only that but whenever someone had to go AFK, you'd all of a sudden start cussing at us for not pulling, unaware that someone was afk since you were yourself.

I'd bet this is what happened in this party of yours with the 3 JP players. This isn't the Dunes anymore so if you still take 10-20 sec to engage AND go afk soon as you do engage, people ARE going to kick you. One would have thought you would have understood by now.

Stop blaming everyone for you half-assing your way to Dynamis.

Great post!

Also, where have you been?

 

[K. Ishitar]

I really wish I didnt blow all my rateup's this morning.

yeah I think I hit my cap as well=/

blame Audino

 

[Deertail]

I know Kikuyakko personally, she speaks English and Japanese fine and can between them both, you could probably selected to have learned that, when she explained the problem to you, in English, "they" had with you slow attack.

They are too, seeing on the other end of the auto-translating system, which is not perfect with any means, you said literally: "No., am I AWAY" over and over again.

A Japanese/English player myself, I am frightened, which would be for someone so impolite as you regarding the offense everything of us on a whole one, which was completely your disturbance. We do not need people like you on FFXI.

 

[Vilurum]

I'm surprised nobody's bothered to comment on attacking, and promptly Bio'ing, a <bt>. That's got to be extra fun when there's two mobs at camp due to a sleeping link.

(Hint: <bt> is to be used, and then only sparingly, in a macro consisting of nothing more than "/target <bt>". And generally "/assist (puller name)" or "/assist (tank name)" are better. If you can't manage to target things all on your own in the first place. For everything else, you want to be sure that you're doing it to the *right* battle target, because <bt> is notorious for being rather inconsistent about which of multiple claimed targets it decides to pick out.)

And yes, insert comments here about attack macro, Bio at all (it is only to be used if Dia 2 or Dia 3 is being used, and then only for skillups; if Dia 1, don't touch it at all), automated Stun, lack of paying attention, partying (in fact, leading a party) while knowingly doing something else, being unclear (not to mention downright rude, never mind racist) in your communication, being unreasonably slow to engage mob, and maybe a few other things that I'm forgetting but which have already been covered in the topic anyway.

Your other flame was a case of understandable ignorance ... but you're really going overboard to make yourself look like a dumbass to be avoided for exp and possibly endgame, in this one. Does someone really need to spell out to you, in detail, what you should and should not be doing when partying?

 

[Raesvelg]

A minor note on the Auto-translator.

{Pull back.} does not mean "Bring me a new mob". It means "Back up a bit". It's one of the most ill-used phrases in the auto-translator, and at times I wonder wtf SE was thinking when they phrased it.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Auto-Translator:_In-Depth

A decent listing of what the various phrases actually mean, and how some of them are distinctly misleading.

 

[Helius]

My attack macro is for skill ups and not used on Colibri or when multiple targets are claimed. I lack in the dark magic skill and it's leveling quite nicely because of that macro. I do know about the /assist macro as it is used for Dynamis.

As for everything else. I'm someone to do something, then no matter the result. I move on. And yeah, I look back at things and regret it, but it's not like I can change it. Is it worth fixing? Maybe. Highly doubt people will take the chains off for past actions. Specially a few I know on here. Owell.

 

[Lucki]

My attack macro is for skill ups and not used on Colibri or when multiple targets are claimed. I lack in the dark magic skill and it's leveling quite nicely because of that macro.

You should skill up Dark Magic in Besieged, not while PTing.

 

[K. Ishitar]

As for everything else. I'm someone to do something, then no matter the result. I move on. And yeah, I look back at things and regret it, but it's not like I can change it. Is it worth fixing? Maybe. Highly doubt people will take the chains off for past actions. Specially a few I know on here. Owell.

You aren't really applying what you've done previously to improve future situations. Your flames have backlashed horribly because of a lack of communication(read: the consistent cause of them).

Someone can acknowledge what they do is wrong and keep doing it again and again, hence the backlash, because it hasn't set in yet.