Kadin Jonason and the rest of you sissys.

I don't see you translated me saying Thief out-dot's monk. Thief out-dot's elemmire. Kiddos, elemmire is a RED MAGE. I was talking to ELEMMIRE. Unless you both have vaginas and breasts, aka NOT you.
 
Skaw said:
Whatever, whatever.
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Not whatever whatever, you irrecollecting worthless pile of Kraken manure. What's your dysfunction? I'll look it up in my references. Maybe we can get you some help.
 
Peregrine said:
I don't see you translated me saying Thief out-dot's monk. Thief out-dot's elemmire. Kiddos, elemmire is a RED MAGE. I was talking to ELEMMIRE. Unless you both have vaginas and breasts, aka NOT you.
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Another stance change. Typical. Remember my magic pot dispute with you? It wasn't too long ago, it might be in your selective memory somewhere.

Anyway, I've got stuff to do finally, my fun is done.
 
Skaw, Bajaratt just said thieves make better soloers than monks. What part of this conversation are you not getting? That soloing is more than just DoT? That I said a thief can out-dot a red mage with no downtime? Or that my name isn't Jonason?

All of the above I guess. Peregrine. My name is peregrine. How are you?
 
Actually, I never took a stance on either side, I just said that I never said that mnk solo'd better than thf. Thf's have access to more things to lessen downtime, but monks kill a shitload faster so they take less damage for less downtime. I also only considered MNK/WAR since that's all I use, but as Skaw pointed out, /NIN and /WHM would lessen a monk's downtime considerably. A test for an actual comparison would be interesting though.
 
Like I said, it's not the ninja sub that makes the soloer. It's the thief's evasion. A monk loses shadows fast to an EP. A thief can go Ni-only...they don't take 3 hits in 45 seconds...You'd know this if you camped sozu. Ninja's benefits are largely restricted to thief as a soloer. It's not even that good on a red mage. Too much wasted time. A thief doesn't need ichi. If you get hit while casting ichi, it's stunned. You can cast ni in between hits, and that renders the thief immune to physical attacks while only reapplying ni every 45 seconds at the LEAST. You wouldn't last 45 seconds under ni protection as a monk. You'd be better off going balls-out with warrior most likely.

Monk does not damage when they're casting, and they're casting a heck of a lot more than thief. I've seen a dozen mnk/nin chiwhores at the sozu camp. They kill fast, but they end orange.
 
Yea was Jonason with the RMT which really made no sense because him and the RMT were the only ones there =/

He the proceeded to /check me over 1,000 times in a row for what reason I don't know (yes a 1,000)


Peregrine

Your argument would make a bit more sense but I think you are forgetting one important detail. MY THF IS 68-70! I am just now to the point where I evade most of his hits with the 70 Evasion boost and O hat. Since when is Sozuu EP to a 70? Now I am not saying he is hard because as anyone can tell you I have no problems at all soloing him. On top of it all provoke has only beaten me once, even if i had the choice I would still sub Ninja so I wouldn't be tempted to use that blasted Provoke JA that is fucked now.

Were you down there subbing War at 68-70? Didn't think so.
 
vang said:
He the proceeded to /check me over 1,000 times in a row for what reason I don't know (yes a 1,000)
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Yeaaaa..... he does that from time to time. Saw him do that one day at Sozu camp to some high lvl JP who changed his gear when Jona /checked him. Did it for a good 15 min straight. Was funny as hell seeing the JP flip out tho.
 
completely irrelevent to any of the subjects...

But, WB Asshole glad to see you're still bitching about people and their online pussy fights... ah gotta love it when people act big and bad online XD

but eh none the less gotta love the senseless calling of names and absolutely ignorance of Vang... wb man.. wb :P
 
and the absolute ignorance of Vang*

My bad, don't want all your grammar nazi's to kill me ~.~
 
vang said:
On top of it all provoke has only beaten me once.
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Tell the truth. Everyone who'se camped that NM knows the truth, pre or post patch. I can all but guarantee that you're lying. Let me guess...selective wording. Provoke has beaten you once, but chi blast has beaten you thirty, and dia got you four.
 
1. Mug 2. Steal

Use these directly after each other and it nearly always claims.

Why? 2 immediate claims are better than 1, or Dia/Stun.

If Mug is too fast, it will be set into a cool down time. Then Steal right after for the claim. (Note: Only the ability that was cancelled will receive a cool down time)
 
Peregrine said:
Tell the truth. Everyone who'se camped that NM knows the truth, pre or post patch. I can all but guarantee that you're lying. Let me guess...selective wording. Provoke has beaten you once, but chi blast has beaten you thirty, and dia got you four.
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You're a fucking idiot if you think provoke is better than mug down there. The only ones to give me a run for my money is Scwowzer the love story or Rebandra, everyone else is curtains. Chi Blast has beaten me twice that I can think of. The Thfs get most claims and rightfully so IMO.

No wonder you gave up so quick sally boy.

and Ronith, well not much needs to be said other than:

http://www.ffxiplayers.com/cpg1.2.1_standalone/displayimage.php?album=84&pos=713

Geek.
 
vang said:
You're a fucking idiot if you think provoke is better than mug down there. The only ones to give me a run for my money is Scwowzer the love story or Rebandra, everyone else is curtains. Chi Blast has beaten me twice that I can think of. The Thfs get most claims and rightfully so IMO.
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You've got to be kidding. The thing has to spawn right in front of you for you to be able to mug it. What do you try to compensate with...running at it as soon as you see it? Autotarget and follow macro? The monks don't even have to move. The nins don't even have to move. All they have to worry about is timing. Maybe in a room of seven people, two monks, two nins, and three thieves, a thf/nin might get it with steal. Only because one's going to be lucky enough to get a pop in his face. The other two don't have a chance.

This little crusade doesn't make any sense. Thf/nin and liking it at the sozu camp? Wouldn't have it any other way? Gimp sub-fanboy. You'll probably change your tune when you level your thief more. Not like you're going to use that knife in a xp party. You could level to 75 and start using provoke like a big boy faster than you're going at this rate. I should come down there on an off day and see just how much the monks really take your cookies.
 
Ehh the range is pretty decent in the room and using both steal and mug gets you past the weird delay they added for spawns. Sure others can do it, but the animation rate is pretty quick for those 2 moves so they can be fired off in rapid succession. Not that voke or chi blast isn't faster, but we all know faster is no longer better.
 
we need decidence here to come up with some geek shit with numbers and calculations on which is faster, then we can really know what would win down there
 
A thief has about a 1 in 4 or 5 chance to be able to just stand there and spam steal (or mug for a free time estimate) and successfully be in range of a Sozu spawn. Unless you're willing to take those odds, you'll be doing some running towards the spawn. I've gotten all of one sozu with autotarget and autofollow macros and steal, but it wasn't much more than a foot or two out of my original steal range. The other couple of times with competition, it's been right in front of my face. The rest were lost to monks and ninjas and Fee or whatever that one's name is. The unclaim delay isn't even long enough to take a full running step. You'll see it yellow for around a half second. Even if you're already on the way with autotarget and autofollow, all the monk has to do is hit enter twice, and it's his.
 
Autotarget? Autofollow? What the fuck are those for?

Flee > Steal > Mug

The only problem with this claiming method is if he pops directly on top of you.

Vang the wang, watch your fucken mouth or I'll make sure the Yallery Brown pops everytime you claim Rogberry.

You wanna be a douche to someone you ask advice from? (He's asked Scwall allll about Rogberry, especially how to make him spawn quickly.)

I guess your panties are still in a knot about leaving the Temple just an hour before we got our second knife. Awwww.
 
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