KH3 trailer!

I said it before, I'll say it again... Elemmire hates all good things in this world. Not that the Roxas part was particularly good, but... it was better than Atlantis. That time my cat decided his claws looked good connected to my hand while playing KH2 was better than Atlantis.

Oh, and as for the trailer... <insert Yotsuba I CAME image here, at school and can't get it>
 
I still just love how this is a continuation of the secret ending from Kingdom Hearts 2. God damn I'm still pumped over this.
 
I don't remember all the plot points particularly well since it's been so long, but I don't recall Sora being "racist" against anyone unless it's racist to defend yourself and I don't recall the concept of Nobody's making that much sense in particular, with regards to the rules behind them existing but them not being a problem in Kingdom Hearts 1.

If I'd just played the game I'd be able to articulate my qualms better but right now it's hard to say.
 
I don't remember all the plot points particularly well since it's been so long, but I don't recall Sora being "racist" against anyone unless it's racist to defend yourself and I don't recall the concept of Nobody's making that much sense in particular, with regards to the rules behind them existing but them not being a problem in Kingdom Hearts 1.

If I'd just played the game I'd be able to articulate my qualms better but right now it's hard to say.

I seem to remember Sora saying things like: "You're just a Nobody!" which is pretty harsh in context. He was basically saying: No one cares if you live or die.

The Nobodies are created when a person with a strong heart becomes a heartless. Their body still lives on, searching for the heart. While they weren't in the first game, they still existed, probably moving behind the scenes. In fact, you fight Xemnas in the Final Mix+ of the original game.
 
I wanna know what happaned to the Organization XIII's Heartless bodies. We fought their Nobodies.. they were so strong, where are their Heartless forms? O.o and where's the badguy from Tarzan's Nobody. He had a Heartless form that retained his shame seemingly showing his heart/body strong enough to be similar to Ansem Heartless or Organization XIII...
 
I believe my feelings at the time of playing kingdom hearts 2 were that if I played kingdom hearts 1 again with the knowledge of nobodies then you'd expect things to happen that didn't. The whole concept was tacked on in KH2, and I don't really mind, but to go say that it's a terribly fruitful subplot is a bit much. Other random things didn't make any sense. The heartless existed before Sora left his island, was Sora the first to kill one, ever? Sora's not even the only one with a keyblade. Then Roxas being used to restore Sora was weird as well. It was just a convoluted. It seemed to be an attempt to throw an existential plot curve our way but you need to make things like that planned out from the beginning when you're building a plot up so you can tear it down effectively instead of making people go, "Huh? That doesn't work."
 
I think you guys are over analyzing a kids game. Just my opinion. -.-;;
 
How about we ask a bigger question? I Sora in a coma again? Why the hell is Roxas moving about? Personally I thought when the old dude grabbed him that was Sora because his hair is darker than Roxas's and as he froze him Roxas came back

/shrug

Looks okay one of those knights is probrably Rikku's nobody as well
 
How about we ask a bigger question? I Sora in a coma again? Why the hell is Roxas moving about? Personally I thought when the old dude grabbed him that was Sora because his hair is darker than Roxas's and as he froze him Roxas came back

/shrug

Looks okay one of those knights is probrably Rikku's nobody as well

I'll write a bigger post when I'm not busy, but to answer this one:

No Khidir, no. All three of the knights, Nomura has officially stated, we never met. Secondly, Riku's nobody would be a *lot* more bad ass and slightly less feminine. Thirdly, that wasn't Roxas. Did you see the boobs? There are boobs.
 
the lighting of the vid wasnt so great so I missed the boobies=/ only watched twice
 
Supposedly the three knights have been named. Two of which are supposedly...

Blue Haired one is Aqua
Blonde is Ven

Ven = Sora = Sky
Aqua = Kairi = Ocean/Water
other knight will prolly be something about land since Riku = Land.

And it's not really a kids game considering it has far more mature underlying tones to it. It's kinda borderline XD A kid can enjoy it but not understand its depth.
 
Well the first 2 were PS2 exclusives, so it'd be big news if it wasn't for PS3 but there's far from any guarantee.

probably ment PS2 Vs PS3, which they'll put out for. Money is on PS3, but duno.
 
They might make two versions, one for PS2 and PS3. Though that could be a lot of work on their part.. hmm.. right now the PS2 still out sells a lot. That is, I think they are still a larger market than Wii, 360 and PS3.
 
I believe my feelings at the time of playing kingdom hearts 2 were that if I played kingdom hearts 1 again with the knowledge of nobodies then you'd expect things to happen that didn't. The whole concept was tacked on in KH2, and I don't really mind, but to go say that it's a terribly fruitful subplot is a bit much. Other random things didn't make any sense. The heartless existed before Sora left his island, was Sora the first to kill one, ever? Sora's not even the only one with a keyblade. Then Roxas being used to restore Sora was weird as well. It was just a convoluted. It seemed to be an attempt to throw an existential plot curve our way but you need to make things like that planned out from the beginning when you're building a plot up so you can tear it down effectively instead of making people go, "Huh? That doesn't work."

I agree with you in that some of the plot was a little underdeveloped. I don't think they gave Nomura enough time to realize his original goal of KHII. He did create the movie hinting at it for the PAL version, since it had sold so well in Japan. But before that he had to create a game that would/could stand alone. In fact, I remember reading that originally you fought Malificent and that was the end. Thank god that didn't happen.

The whole past and the mechanics of the KH universe is a bit hidden. Hints are there, but it's mostly vieled. For example, when you visit King Tident he instantly recognizes a Keyblade and scolds Sora for bringing "one of those" here.

The Heartless and Nobodies existed way before KHI even started. However, they had just recently invaded that corner of the universe. Ansem, with Xenohart, had been experimenting on them at the behest of Xenohart. Hm. I believe that Xenohart created a way for these 'nobodies' to become sentient after their detatchment from their heart. This is why we have characters like Axyl and Siax and even Roxas, but Roxas & Namine were created through a special circumstance.

I try to understand the idea of multiple keyblade bearers is that each person, with a pure heart, can call a keyblade from the void (or wheverever they come from). Sora called one when he needed to defend his friends from a heartless invasion led on by Xenohart's heartless. Riku had to call on one to save himself from the darkness, even becoming a heartless himself. Riku is a very complex character, one of my favorites. Mikey has been trained to be a keyblade bearer, in fact, he may have the purest heart in all the universe. Who knows.

I know there are a lot of unanswered questions, but most of them come from the past. What happened during the keyblade wars? What, or more importantly, who was Xenohart before he washed up on Hollow Bastion? Is Roxas an extension of Sora's personality, or a completely different person?

I'm afraid I only have more speculation for those questions. Hopefully they'll be answered in KHIII or whatever they decide to name it. Personally, I believe the secret ending is the 'past,' during the keyblade wars. The man with brown hair is Xenohart (and mayhap, be Sora's father). The blond-haired and blue-haired person are his friends.

Sorry, I've turned this into an analysis. XD

P.S.
If you pay attention to the trailer, when the Blond-Haired-Knight is frozen his/her eyes move ever so slightly. That person isn't dead, methinks.
 
I think you guys are over analyzing a kids game. Just my opinion. -.-;;

If it had a plot like a kid's game, you'd be right.

But it has a crazy Square-Enix plot that goes WHOOOSH over kid's heads. It's bad -not- to analyze it. And really, who can possibly define the point at which people have over-analyzed something?
 
Well the first 2 were PS2 exclusives, so it'd be big news if it wasn't for PS3 but there's far from any guarantee.

Maybe that's why they chose to go with "another" name. KH might be legaly tied to the Playstation brand in exclusivity. If they create a "new" franchise from the start they can go multi-platform. And seeing how the PS3 is doing vs the 360 and the Wii that was SE's way out.
 
Maybe that's why they chose to go with "another" name. KH might be legaly tied to the Playstation brand in exclusivity. If they create a "new" franchise from the start they can go multi-platform. And seeing how the PS3 is doing vs the 360 and the Wii that was SE's way out.

Wow, I never thought of that. @_@
 
They already made a Kingdom Hearts for DS or Gameboy, forget which one. I don't think they have any legal obligation and I doubt there will be any multiplatforms. I'm going to guess there are 2 upcoming non-handheld console games, and "kingdom hearts 3" will be for PS3 and another seperate game will be for Wii. The reasoning I'm using is that Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 used the PS2 control scheme and a Wii game would attempt to use the Wiimote as a sword(hopefully a lot better than Zelda).

I can see Kingdom Hearts 3 for the PS3 focus on the same gameplay as 1 and 2 with incredible looking graphics and huge worlds to fill up the blu-ray disc. If there's an Xbox version coming(I doubt this is happening), it'll be a third unique game as well, probably with very different gameplay and more focused on online functionality.

I think though what Xbox 360 is getting from Square isn't a Kingdom Hearts game but a FF13 spinoff that will be a shooter like that FF7 spinoff with Vincent.
 
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