Kirin's Osode {I don't understand.}

either way 100 > 58.
Math was a bit off.
 
Did anyone want to parse?
 
Bajaratt said:
I have to show you obvious common sense, what everyone that's intelligent already accepts as fact?

Maybe next you'll want me to explain why a faith torque is better than chivalrous chain.
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Ha! I think I asked that one a long time ago @_@
 
To sum Up, Osode is easier to obtain than Togi, because it can be bought. Also there seem to be a JP 'phlosophy' there, and I see a lot of good JP monks use it, it seems they believe STR is the best stat for monks. The non JP community is convinced that attack is better. Same reason you'd see JP WS or even TP in AF gloves ( other than being cheap <.<).
 
I thought 101DEX was one of the crit tiers against Mamool, assuming your mithra with unmerited DEX, i think you're sitting at 79, less for other races +5 from Rajas +15 from Byakko puts you at 99, depending on the meat you use (Coeurl subs add no DEX) you don't even break the lower tier, let alone 119. Personally i almost always use sushi on monk, i admit i don't have great gear for it mainly because i very VERY rarely use it for anything but i do have 8 H2H merits and still find accuracy to be an issue in alot of cases, i'd use a KO over SH, until i get a D.body if or when i decide to gear it again.

On a side note, if you asked me to pianimisso(sp) you a Madrigal while keeping March+Min and 2x Ballad on the mage, all while pulling, i'd tell you to go fuck yourself in no uncertain terms, BRD should be used to enhance other jobs, other jobs SHOULD NOT be dependant on a BRD to be able to pull there own weight. If there's 2 BRD in the pt, then maybe the BRD not pulling could be persuaded.
 
is that a pixie earring?
 
Haha, i can wear it in the parse if you want, i doubt its gonna change things in your favor.

Caerloc said:
No, its the ability to almost always eat meat while maintaining capped haste that is really great with usukane. I get an additional like 45-50 atk on ws, not couing boost. But unless full usukane, i really wouldnt use meat unless in a 2brd PT.
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I would be using meat tho, just like i said in the other thread, only full usukane-users should be using meat in most situations.

Ps. I somewhat agree with your opinions about meat. In a 2 brd PT. Thats about the only place. I just like to parse against people who think they are all that and a bag of chips.
 
although we were discussing parsing osode vs SH, so i fail to see how i'm a bag of chips.
 
Rhaddy said:
you're a towel.
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Nothing wrong with that.
 
The main reason I believe someone would wear a K.Osode over a Shura Togi is because maybe they have more than one job at 75 that can take advantage of the Osode. Then maybe they are just too lazy to work towards getting a Shura Togi. That could possibly be a reason why.
 
Sketchzter said:
The main reason I believe someone would wear a K.Osode over a Shura Togi is because maybe they have more than one job at 75 that can take advantage of the Osode. Then maybe they are just too lazy to work towards getting a Shura Togi. That could possibly be a reason why.
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But for almost every job that can wear Osode, there's a much better option available. For sam/nin/bst/war, a haubergeon is far better than the Osode(except for charming) is and it's a much cheaper purchase.
 
Hehe then the question as to why people do use it may never be answered o.o
 
its something people swear by blindly.
 
Bajaratt said:
Unless you're fighting something weak like imps or you're wasting your bard(or you're an idiot PUP), sushi's going to outperform meat easily.
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Depends also on what kind of kind of gear you are using. Top gear/average gear/ crap gear.I fail to see what pup has to do with discussion, considering 1) pup is not a monk 2) pup can't equip osode..
 
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Hmm because kirin osode is one of the best gear for RNG and BRD.

Anyway back to the argument of Osode and togi. Regarding the Gnome blog, I have always wanted to say it but.. i do not believe the parse result of osode > togi. I have always wanted to post a reply in that section but i do not know how to (Someone help me post pls). If you notice the parse.. SURPRISINGLY Kirin Osode ACC is HIGHER than shura togi which is DEFINITELY wrong. I do not not know why no one notice it if they both have the same equipment and food.....

About monk using sushi or meat in merit party. Sorry I will agree that sushi is the best for merit parties. When i was sparsing my monk (only 1 H2H merit) at the colibri camp, i wear FULL ACC gear which include O.hat, P.body, PCC, Potent Belt, Usukane Feet, Byakko pants. Earring was ethreal and brutal. I only manage to overall average my hit accuracy at 80% only. Go and do the caculations and see meat or sushi is better =o

Usually when I am soloing, I tend to use Kirin Osode because it does not give me the -HP, If i am soloing it that mean i dont have much of accuracy problem, Genome blog supposedly say agi can help in guard and kick activation rate. Regardless of whether the 3rd point is valid or not, the first two points is good enough to sway my decision especially when i am a tarutaru MNK.
 
He's full of crap about it helping kick attack rate, and I'm doubtful about it helping guard since I haven't noticed a difference, but it would make sense for it to have some effect since it effects every other boxing skill.

I did one small parse comparing Togi to Osode one time. It was only about 30 minutes for each, but Osode came on a little on top. The accuracy rate was a little lower, but I got insanely lucky with Osode and had a 24% crit rate(that's above cap, I believe) whereas the Togi only had 15%. It wasn't a very good test, the sample was too small to balance out the crit rates; but that might be how he was getting those results, or maybe he just mixed up the body pieces he wore.
 
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