Wow, hasn't this kinda gone on long enough? Seriously ya'll, even if it was amusing in the least, which I personally find it to be entirely sad, this thread is and has been over. Kink, people who you perceive to be liars and assholes are going to lie and be assholes to you no matter what. You're not going to change the minds of people who don't care for you, and they are going to keep on being who they have always been. Very few people know who's lying and who's telling the truth, and all of you are saying different things. So if you're not changing anyone's mind, and truth is obviously not something that will feasibly be revealed, then what is the point of continuing? I don't know who is wrong and who is right in all the mess that has gone on for 30+ pages, and to be honest, I think few people have shown any real insight in their posts. What I DO know is if you want to truly BE the better person, and not just talk about being it, then you'll let this die. I'm asking you, as a neutral person here, can you please just ignore what they have to say if it means so little to you? Just tell your friends not to be upset, and if they are real friends, they will know what the truth is and will ignore anything to the contrary. You could always just request for it to be closed and just move on. And I don't think I'm alone when I say that I really wish you would, if only for your own sake.