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Do latent effects and hidden effects on weapons work even when they're subbed? For example.

Main: Durandal
Sub: Martial Anelace

Would my Durandal WS get the hidden effect of the Martial Anelace

Or

Main: Princely Sword
sub: Save the Queen

Would my Princely Sword gain the Accuracy +20 from the cover effect?
 
I can say martial weapons dont work when subbed

Dunno about other one
 
For martial weapon you only get the 100 TP when using THAT sword for WS. for saving the queen, you gain the +20 acc when you have cover active. So I'd guess you can sub save the queen and still get +20 acc
 
Mariox said:
For martial weapon you only get the 100 TP when using THAT sword for WS. for saving the queen, you gain the +20 acc when you have cover active. So I'd guess you can sub save the queen and still get +20 acc
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You can't really assume that, though. It could be a weapon specific effect, like the Critical+%'s, and the TP Bonus on Martial items.

It'd take a good bit of testing to prove it as well.
 
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Skaw said:
You can't really assume that, though. It could be a weapon specific effect, like the Critical+6%'s, and the TP Bonus on Martial items.

It'd take a good bit of testing to prove it as well.
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prasier :P
just go to kuf tunnle hunt crabs get a skill up party and say u want AM if pops as your here for it preety simple
 
Kire said:
prasier :P
just go to kuf tunnle hunt crabs get a skill up party and say u want AM if pops as your here for it preety simple
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Allow me...

What Blazn Really Meant said:
Parser :P
Just go to Kuftal Tunnel and hunt crabs, or get a skill up party and say you want (Amemet?) if it pops. Pretty simple
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Kire said:
prasier :P
just go to kuf tunnle hunt crabs get a skill up party and say u want AM if pops as your here for it preety simple
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This game, and just about every MMO, is based off random chance. Parsers can't tell you everything, since even the slightest string of beneficial, behind the scene dice rolls, will throw everything off. Besides, what the hell were you trying to say? A Parser is used to see the results of the test I mentioned. One persons 1000 crab test isn't enough proof. You'd need many people working to test it out.
 
then why not make a list of all rumored/confirmed Latent/Hidden Effects items ?

i sure most ppl well like it , its help ppl know abot the gear they wear or if that gear have a Hidden Effects or not

iam not saying its shoud only one man who do the work .. we can make a Thread and post info abot it there
 
Thusfar I have found latent effect abilities to only effect the weapon they are on, as opposed to a weapon with just plain old acc+ on it. So if it is listed as latent it seems to only effect swings with that weapon. Since WS tend to only involve mainhand, a weapon with latent effects in offhand wouldn't affect the WS. I have been told there are a few Katana WS where the offhand weapon is involved, but I can't say from personal experience.
 
just go try mainhanding a martial anelace and off handing it and using spirits within at full hp. difference is light and day. off hand you lose the tp bonus.
 
I say we create a master list of latent effects. I'll start a post in the guide's section, with all the ones that I'm dead positive of.
 
I remember I found a list of latent/hidden effects on a forum at one point. I can't believe I didn't bookmark it, but I'll try looking for it again.
 
Nah, it was a different forum that I'd never used before, not alla. I just remember someone told me to try the forum because there was a sticky on hidden effects, I just can't remember what the forum was.
 
hellstorm said:
nice list to bad they dont have the one I wanted anyone know how to activate the Expunger bow Dmg: 26 Dly: 360 Ranged Accuracy: 9 Latent Effect: DMG: 39
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I think that goes along with the critical hit rate weapons. You get 500 WS points to unlock it forever.
 
Skaw said:
This game, and just about every MMO, is based off random chance. Parsers can't tell you everything, since even the slightest string of beneficial, behind the scene dice rolls, will throw everything off. Besides, what the hell were you trying to say? A Parser is used to see the results of the test I mentioned. One persons 1000 crab test isn't enough proof. You'd need many people working to test it out.
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Actually, although it is random, I believe the effects in this, and other games, are still based off a % of a chance of working. 1000 crabs should be plenty to get a test from. At that amount, the test could be off by what, .1 % at worst.
 
Ewok said:
Actually, although it is random, I believe the effects in this, and other games, are still based off a % of a chance of working. 1000 crabs should be plenty to get a test from. At that amount, the test could be off by what, .1 % at worst.
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It's all about sample size. At 1000 crabs, you have a very large sample size. An unlucky or a particularly lucky streak could happen, but you have to play the odds. Odds are, with 1000 crabs, any lucky streak would be insignificant.
 
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