Live and Let Die Jamal Pt. 2

[Hollie]

1. When I joinned SnB there weren't any established rules or times just dates. Mon-Wed-Fri. When we first talked about a lotting system I OPENLY opposed the Point lotting system because for people like my friend Kotsu can't open his schedule to fit others wants and needs. Knowing my objection to this biased ruling of lotting should have been a red flag saying "Hey if we go to this point based system we may lose some people". Like other's that originally joinned and have left because of thier misconceptions upon joinning a ZNM shell because it was so new nobody knew how it were to be run.


2. If you have a problem with me come to me about it, Kotsu is not his brother's keeper. Thats what makes me lose respect for anyone. That I gotta hear about they whining from a 3rd person party that wasn't at the run.

3. From what I remember I went on 2 picture farming runs one of them involving qutrubs and a lot of deaths, then 2 popping runs 1 of them mine yes because I had the points because nobody head any points to pop anything else. Originally I wasn't going to come to the Sandworm fight, Jamal sent me tells asking if I could come even though I was over my friend, Tubuku's house with the intension to help him out that night. Sorry I wanted to help my RL friend out thats 5 feet away from me. He cut his plans for the night short to come help us out with the Sandworm considering he could do what he wanted me to help him out until I quelled the insurrection of over excitement of a Sandworm in the past.

4. The night Jamal went off on me and told me to give back Zahak's mail was after about 2 almost 3 hours of popping ZNMs non-stop I wanted to take a break. Evidently that wasn't good enough. Due to the fact I got lucky at one NM drop before the LS had any lotting rules and no real set times for meeting. I owe my character to Jamal's whim. Sorry I don't bow down to such over bearing suppressive megalomaniacal dictatorship.

5. With the exception of "Sex you want, you can't get. Sex you get, you don't want". FFXI is not HS its a video game people come to genuinely to have fun. But Jamal's retaliation of spreading my name in filth, like I'm the "Dirty old man that bangs any chick, that I've got 3 STDs and 4 kids from 3 different girls". Seriously slandering my name isn't going to hurt my feelings because lets be honest I have my core group of friends on FFXI and other than them I couldn't care less what people think about me.

6. In all seriousness Jamal's grudge against me is worse that the one lesbian chick had on me when I stole her cute bisexual g/f. Even the man hating, butch lesbian gave up her grudge against me. Which makes me wonder because I know I'm not the only person that joinned SnB and left if they got something they want or not. Its a garuntee that I won't be the last either. I can answer why me because I got a piece of equipment that was "Freelot" that wasn't freelot at least in the eyes of Jamal.

7. If I were in it for only the equipment you think I would have stayed longer until I actually got somemore? Christ I've been with the same Dynamis LS for over a year and haven't been able to lot anything because the last of my priority #1 drops are in Northlands and my priority #2 was rdm in which we have a superflous amount of rdms. I think I've been a good sport about that. I lost all ambition to be a part of SnB because they made it official Point based lotting system without a stable schedule of events. And knowing that Kotsu would never be able to get anything out of that, and I wasn't all too impressed with items from ZNMs there goes my 2 motivators along with a lotting system I don't agree with.

8. Life is too short to hold a grudge. If you seriously get over stressed over a game maybe you should take a break. "You have to get out in the streets, you have to talk to a stranger. Drink a beer with breakfast! Take the ugliest girl home at the party! You never know what life would put in your lap when you open your arms and embrace it!" Stop living your life in a video game.

9. I talked to Audino about comming back at one point just to shut Jamal up and get him to stop harrassing my friends both on here and in FFXI but I changed my mind. I know with his grudge and position in the LS I know all I'll be treated as an endentured servent/slave and I will not willingly put myself in that position of misery. Because its a video game. Jamal's explosive, contagious negativity would only drive me to angry and homicidal tendencies.

10. I can't stress this enough its a video game. That shit with Zahak's mail happened what 5-6 months ago? maybe more? The grudge is worse that a scorn ex-girlfriend, move on. If you're getting so angry about a game unplug for a few days grab a few bags of canibis, 30 pack of beer/ 1 bottle of Absinthe, get a prostitute/erotic massage with release. Learn to mellow out. Oh and if that doesn't make you happy Jamal you could report me to the GMs but they wouldn't find anything, so why don't you just taddle on me to Homeland Security because I blame my service to the US military and Government for the blowout of my knees and unknown Liver syndrome that leads to jaundace before I'm 30. So if you feel the need to exact your Revenge on me I just gave you a big tip to start an Homeland Security investigation on me. So go ahead and tattle on me. It won't get you Zahak's mail but it may make you feel better.

 

[jamal]

The amount of lies in your post is too many to sort out

 

[Blazeoffury]

You shoulda let Kotsu's thread stay as the flame... that post made you out to be a person who's afraid of commitment, and it was 10 reasons why you don't want to and shouldnt be involved with end game.

 

[jamal]

You shoulda let Kotsu's thread stay as the flame... that post made you out to be a person who's afraid of commitment, and it was 10 reasons why you don't want to and shouldnt be involved with end game.

A post of reason, thanks as usual

 

[Hitaru]

The amount of lies in your post is too many to sort out

Why not clear it up? Everyone knows you have the time to do it...

 

[Hollie]

What Lies? point them out seriously. When 2 people correlate between actions remember they usually have a 2 way converstation of events that happened not "That's not what happened because I said so"

 

[Auron X]

I don't understand how any person can be fucking opposed to a points system. How the fuck else is gear going to be distributed fairly in a brand new ls? If you start off with a "Let us let the leaders decide who is going to get the gear" the people who get gear are the ones who are the closest to the leaders.

The night you left you were correct in saying that the ls was there for many hours, you on the other hand were not. You showed up for 1 dea fight after we did several others and left after you died 2x.

The difference between you leaving SnB and you staying with your dynamis ls is you got the best gear possible for your drg from SnB and then left...you still haven't gotten the best things for your jobs in northlands.

We asked you a bunch of times before you quit to come with events and you would always reply with "I really want to exp with this new Zahak's Mail". Also don't give me the fucking hours were too much for you because pretty much every time we would be gathering for something you would just be doing campaign while LFP.

The real life excuse shit doesn't mean anything because people hold grudges in real life also so idk where you are trying to go there.

 

[jamal]

That pretty much sums up the lies and your retardedness

Leading my LS now, send me a /tell if anything real in here I need to address.

 

[Zephayra]

No, because if it was kotsu he would be banned for RL identifiable material.

Unless he just put it there, in which case, he's about to be, as soon as the mods read this thread.

In case you hadn't noticed, a whole lot of people have the same signature. My guess is that Kotsu has given permission to use his RL pictures in signatures. Therefore, how is does if fall in the guidelines as RL identifiable material, especially if those pictures were made public, opposed to a picture posted by someone that was private?

Also, does that mean everyone who puts their picture up on the RL picture thread should be banned for posting RL identifiable material?

That's a pretty big stretch I think. Nothing in the signature gives away anything that his own public profile on QCDN already has (Name, Age, Location and a photo).

 

[Linhjah]

Many people have the Kotsu sig. He made it, and it is with his blessing they have it, so I don't think a ban is in order.

 

[Tymon]

I wasn't aware of that, so my previous comments are retracted.

 

[Hollie]

Look I'm saying I'm affraid of commitment to endgame. If I knew me not liking ZNMs would lead to all this I would have never joined. When people have asked me to help them with things and I've had the time I'd help them even when I was in SnB I helpped twinzero on CoP Airship fights, I've helpped others when they asked me to I generally a nice person. And if giving Zahak's Mail back to SnB would fix the situation I would but I know it wouldn't. Saying that it would, I wouldn't believe it through action taken towards other player other than me. This whole thing with Jamal and I should have never been taken this far. But he kept involving more and more people and herassing my friends. I just want it to dissappear if takes me to quit FFXI I will. My want to play this game has successfully been sucked dry by 1 person.

 

[jamal]

Look I'm saying I'm affraid of commitment to endgame. If I knew me not liking ZNMs would lead to all this I would have never joined. When people have asked me to help them with things and I've had the time I'd help them even when I was in SnB I helpped twinzero on CoP Airship fights, I've helpped others when they asked me to I generally a nice person. And if giving Zahak's Mail back to SnB would fix the situation I would but I know it wouldn't. Saying that it would, I wouldn't believe it through action taken towards other player other than me. This whole thing with Jamal and I should have never been taken this far. But he kept involving more and more people and herassing my friends. I just want it to dissappear if takes me to quit FFXI I will. My want to play this game has successfully been sucked dry by 1 person.

It would. I told you that from day 1.

I told kotsu that from day 1.

When I 'yelled' at you I told you that.

God you're retarded. And it's harassing, not herassing.

Stop looking for sympathy, you're a fucking thief.

 

[Caerloc]

So, someone help me understand this. These 2 threads worth of drama, is actually over a single Zahak's mail?

 

[jamal]

3 threads actually, but yes.

 

[Hollie]

No its not Jamal likes driving people to homicidal thoughts

 

[Hexx]

Many people have the Kotsu sig. He made it, and it is with his blessing they have it, so I don't think a ban is in order.

Thats what I figured, banning people for it would be a mistake since there really was NO infraction of the rules.

Seriously tho, in regards to the OP:

Personally, I dont know you, just seen you on during dynamis runs with SanctusVires, and you seem like a cool person and all, so why not just put this all in the past? When it comes to this kind of an argument, nobody wins because its a simple case of "he said, she said." Each person here (Jamal, Kotsu, Hollie) has their own group of friends and such that will only believe the other unless insurmountable proof is provided in the contrary. I do, however, have a few words for yall:

Jamal: Seriously man, as "real" as you come off to be, you seem, no, you DO take this game WAY too seriously. Yes, Hollie may be in the wrong (note i said "maybe") for having kept that Z.Mail and not showing up to more events to make up for winning it, but in all truthfulness, where in the game, or in the rules of the game, does it say you HAVE to stay with a group after getting a specific item? Yes, it sux that people do that, but IT HAPPENS! Get over it, because no matter WHAT you do or say, guess what? YOURE NOT GETTING THAT ITEM BACK. So if you are the "I look at the big picture" kind of guy, relax, go grab a beer, and give yourself some reflection time to realize you are making VERY unreasonable demands by lumping anyone and everyone that Hollie or Kotsu hang with the same. Its not Khidir's or anyone else's fault that you have a problem with Hollie, so leave them out of it. Your strong-arm tactic of "I will lose all respect for you if you dont do as I say" makes you look like a 5 yr-old who throws a tantrum when his friends dont do as they say man.........so again, ease up :biggrin:

Kotsu: I understand you went thru some hell dealing with Jamal, but hey, it happens right? Why stoop to a lower level by writing a flame of epic proportions like the one you made the other day??? Yes, I imagine it was in self-defense (based on the PMs I saw from Khidir) but hey, you know you're better than that.............

Hollie: Dude, seriously, you got an awesome piece of gear, one of the first (amirite?) on the server...........and yet bailed? Again, its a case of "he said, she said" and no, you arent forced to stay with any ONE group after getting gear, but what you posted up above didnt TOTALLY exonerate you from what may have happend. I have a piece of advice for ya........why not just toss the bloody thing, take a screenie, and post it up for all to see? This way, you dont keep it, but neither does anyone ELSE get it. Problem over and done with! I mean hell, isnt Kotsu's healthy state of mind worth it? And YOURS too for that matter? I mean hell, just reading thru all of these threads has given me a headach of Galkan proportions!

In closing, seriously, this has gone on long enough and innocent parties almost got stuck in the crossfire (save for you Khidir). Both parties just let this issue go and let it serve as a lesson learned for everyone.

That is all from me. :drinks: Cheers!

 

[Grandphoenix]

As I said with Lyrai what's such the problem of just giving it back?

 

[Hollie]

Jamal you're too petty to let it be the end if I gave it back. I'm just going to drop it so nobody benefits from it

 

[Hexx]

God you're retarded. And it's harassing, not herassing.

Being a grammar nazi as a comeback is weak, youve provided better arguments than THAT Jamal :nono: